Tue, Apr 04, 2023 4:51PM • 1:31:25
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SPEAKERS
Bill Clearfield
01:02
Dr. Watts, how are you?
01:04
I’m well how are you today?
Bill Clearfield 01:06
having the time of my life as always?
01:09
That’s good. That’s good.
Bill Clearfield 01:11
I’m glad we were able to find you. Yeah, this
01:13
is great. So happy to participate. So I think it’s great that you guys have a standing meeting like this.
Bill Clearfield 01:21
We’ve been doing this for two and a half years now. So that’s really cool. Almost like yours.
01:27
Yeah, yeah, it’s different topics and all kinds of stuff. I imagine you guys get some interesting speakers around here.
Bill Clearfield 01:37
We do. You know, we’ve had we’ve had the some of the big ones from a for him and from AMG and
01:47
a lot of people are promoting
Bill Clearfield 01:48
their own products and whatnot. Since we’re not we don’t do CME credits. They, we can do it and
01:55
we now have a way to get get the email addresses
Bill Clearfield 02:01
of the participants so we can get that to you. So you can cool reach out to them. You know, we want to give them discount specials or you know, very good, send a hit squad, whatever,
02:15
whatever it is share. I’m sure Kim will appreciate that. And so,
02:20
- Yeah,
Bill Clearfield 02:23
I was actually able to figure it out without having to spend another $1,000 on this stuff. This quit, which was amazing. So I think you met Joel before he’s my writing. Hey.
02:35
So how are you doing? You’re quiet here.
02:40
How you doing?
02:41
You’re doing well. Thank you. How are you today?
Bill Clearfield 02:44
I want to I want to know how you were able to you’re on you’re on part 13 of labs lab work.
02:54
I laugh because you do the class live and you’re done in you know, two days. And if we did it at this pace, we’d be done in about a month. So lots of questions, and it’s good interaction. So we appreciate that.
Bill Clearfield 03:12
You’re showing the video so this was a class that you had done.
03:16
So we taught the class live for a couple of years and and then with COVID situation and put everything digitally for people to have and now we’re kind of working our way through it as a group. So moving a little slower when there’s a lot of questions. About every single thing
03:37
that I make you a co host Joe Yeah. Definitely.
03:50
Okay, there you go. Got it. So,
Bill Clearfield 03:57
most of our folks spilled during right around five and some of them will show up at 515 530 You know, so we’ve been getting anywhere from 25 to 40 pretty regularly.
04:09
Ice and very good. So
Bill Clearfield 04:11
we had Peter McCullough and we had over 100 for him, so yeah, my
04:17
bad. Yeah.
Bill Clearfield 04:19
So and then, accidentally the video ended up on YouTube, which it’s less less than five minutes before they pulled it off. He’s a persona non grata. So I got I got a warning on my account there. Yeah. Because he’s such a scary person, you know?
04:40
Yeah. You know, he is right. I do. Yeah. I do. So, so, how’s your company doing?
04:53
They’re doing well, so I consult the biogenetics. And they’ve year over a year. I’ve been having their best year ever. For the last consecutive, I don’t know four years in a row now. So that’s pretty fun. So pretty fun for them. A lot of people we’ve increased our service arm more than anything, which is like a case review service that we work on with people and that’s been amazing to see the outreach so.
05:40
So
Bill Clearfield 05:44
So I have an outfit called launch in the neck launch index, something like that. If you don’t know heard them, they their big one. Resveratrol that’s they have a proprietary one. So so they have me writing articles for them. Cool and make it up. as I go along.
06:10
So let’s see
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Crowley here
Bill Clearfield 06:30
Hey, Ken. Hey Doc, how you doing? Good. How are you? Good. Okay, thanks for Thank you. It took a little took a little doing there I was I was going to have to prepare my own and you know, nobody wants to hear me speak. So that’s why we farm it out. So.
06:52
So okay, and can’t we have you for me nice. Yes, you do. I do. Okay. So,
Bill Clearfield 07:09
Jackie asked me if I knew you and she kind of mumbled your name. So I told her now.
07:16
Let me see. Do I want to know Him?
Bill Clearfield 07:22
So wherever you are, we’re jealous. It’s 25 degrees here. Well,
07:28
I’m in Temecula and it’s got a cold breeze blowing but blue skies which is not been the case for the last quite a while. I guess. Yeah. You’ve been catching all the all the snow from from you know yesterday
Bill Clearfield 07:47
again. Yeah.
07:51
Exactly. Where exactly is Temecula?
07:55
Southern California wine country? That’s
07:58
right, five. Yeah, because I think there’s one in Arizona too. Cool.
08:04
right on the border of North County San Diego. Yeah, yeah,
08:08
I remember. Yeah, we’ve got
08:16
it’s, it’s been wonderful. With all the rain. We desperately need it. With the snow in the mountains so great.
08:33
Actor Clearfield where are you in the country?
08:36
I’m in Reno. Reno. Yeah, I made a
Bill Clearfield 08:40
wrong turn. I wanted to go someplace warm. was a woman. I went from Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania to Reno.
08:52
And I just drove I drove over the Donner Pass, and it was mind blowing how much snow is up? There. I even heard that the chairs are
09:03
dragon.
09:07
Crazy.
09:10
We had like 2020 foot cliffs of snow driving by it was It was wild. I don’t think I’ve ever seen that much snow up there.
Bill Clearfield 09:19
What about you, Dr. Watts, where are you?
09:21
I’m in Minnesota. Well, rain and snow country right now. Yeah.
Bill Clearfield 09:30
I was there once in July. It wasn’t too bad.
09:33
That’s right. So
09:38
okay, and
Bill Clearfield 09:40
so we got Fred, he’s here with us. More I’m not so sure I know who you are.
09:47
Thank you for being here and Darla is an old friend, too. So welcome back
09:58
Dr. Stein and Dr. Burgess here to sell.
Bill Clearfield 10:03
So I’m gonna let you introduce yourself. Great, those those of you don’t know so. So this is Dr. Brad watts. He’s our speaker this week. We’ve had him before he he’s been very generous with his time. He he’ll tell you his he does a Friday. Casual Fridays. Is that what you call it? So we call them Casual Fridays Friday morning. 8am. Our time here. He does a webinar similar to similar to ours, but he does it himself every week, which I don’t know how you do it. It’s just you must have a research team. We did that or that’s where you are. You’re very prolific.
10:43
My wife says it’s just piled high and deep. So yeah. So
Bill Clearfield 10:47
but he is a walking textbook of a functional medicine. He speaks on just about you name the topic. He’s got he’s got the he’s got the answers. So So tonight, I think we’re going to talk about five thyroid, you can finish your intro and who you are and why you went to
11:08
college. I’m going to try to share my screen here. So you’re
Bill Clearfield 11:12
gonna we’re gonna record this too, right? If I leave you
11:15
have to let me know. All right. You can see my screen there, Doctor. Yep. All right. All good. So all right, well, I’m Dr. Watts with biogenetics you can find us@biogenetics.com And what we do is we serve providers that are in the functional medicine world. And so the business is probably seven or eight years old at this point. Have been with them for four years consulting and teaching and all that kind of stuff and able to help craft some of the products and get my fingers into all of that. So I appreciate the ability to have impact in patients lives and ultimately, that’s what it’s all about. So I’m a chiropractor by trade. And the only thing I’ve ever done is functional medicine. I’ve never had a neck and back clinic. So usually what happens is is people say well, what kind of doctor are you? I’m a chiropractor, but not that kind of chiropractor like everybody always wants you to look at their neck and stuff like that. And I say well you should probably find somebody else for that. So anyway, what we’re going to do today is we’re going to be talking about some of the what I call the behind the scenes as it relates to thyroid mechanisms. And just want to give you the context to why we’re going to be discussing this. Number one, if somebody makes it into a functional medicine practice and they’re looking for help with thyroid. You have to think that they’ve already seen six or seven other people. You have to think that they’ve already failed in the standard of care. Model, which means that there are one of two types of thyroid patients one where they get help in the standard of care with the thyroid hormone replacement, and to where the thyroid hormone replacement doesn’t touch whatever their condition actually is. And so we’re going to start looking at that today. So really, what I want you to see is who’s coming into your practice at this point in time with this style of care, okay? It’s not the person that’s life is improved by thyroid medication is the person that’s looking at you saying somebody helped me my lab tests all look normal. The doctor is telling me I’m a crazy person, and I can’t lose weight. I can’t sleep can’t go to the bathroom, I can’t think straight and ultimately, they’re knocking on your door. So we’re going to start looking through that a little bit here. This is FDA information. And it’s disclaimer regarding supplementation. As per usual, and my disclaimer is this, as per usual is that this doesn’t create a doctor patient relationship between me and you, me and your patients are by genetics in you and by genetics and your patients and not really worried about that here tonight, but just have to say it nonetheless. So, all right, this is a root and fruit graphic. This is how we explain functional medicine to patients. And if you don’t have this graphic, all you have to do is email kim@biogenetics.com And she’ll send it to you. And I show this graphic to every single patient every single time. And I’m going to show you in the context of what we’re working on today. how this comes about. So you have patient’s lifestyle and environment, the trash that’s in their lifestyle and environment and the root structure forces their DNA to express chronic inflammatory patterns, which is giving them their lived experience up here. Right so if they don’t want high cholesterol or hypertension or fatigue, if they don’t want to get beat up by thyroid conditions or they don’t want Hashimotos destroying their life. Ultimately it comes down to controlling chronic inflammation, which means that we have to introduce that old DNA into a lifestyle, an environment that’s more compatible with health and healing, something that’s compatible with Vitality. And and ultimately that’s what we’re here to do. So this is the backdrop of what we’re going to be working on tonight. And and I thought about calling the presentation the plight of the thyroid. But ultimately, what I want you to see is that the thyroid is the ultimate thermometer. The thyroid is the ultimate thermometer and you know in modern medicine today in the standard of care, so many people are blaming the thermometer for how hot it is outside or where Dr Clearfield is right now how cold it is outside. So many people are blaming the thermometer as if the thermometer is responsible for you know the overall condition of the environment. And and I think this is an important point that we can differentiate ourselves with as it comes to, you know, functional care. And and ultimately we’re using that thermometer the right way. Alright, we want to make sure that we understand that it’s an indicator. It’s hardly ever a driver, almost always an indicator. So we have six different things that we look at as it relates to functional health of the thyroid. And I listed them here for you. Obviously we’re not going to go through all six of them. Tonight. However, we are going to talk a little bit about auto immunity. And we’re going to talk about something that I call peripheral resistance. And the peripheral resistance might be new to some of you in the audience, but I guarantee you you see it every day. And so hopefully you can see the viewpoint as we go through the process here. So now right? Just going to make sure that I have a chat window open here for us as well. And very good. All right, I got us organized now.
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If you have questions along the way, feel free to drop them in the chat box, and we can discuss whatever you’d like to discuss. So okay, so let’s move on to the next piece of the puzzle here. We have our normal hypothalamus, anterior pituitary thyroid feedback loop that you would see and the places that we’re going to talk about tonight on where this can break down. comically are right here. So there are a lot of different areas that we can see. Breaking down in this normal feedback loop where we have thyrotropin releasing hormone, telling the pituitary to release thyroid stimulating hormone and ultimately the thyroid producing T four and three. Now the feedback loops are a common area that break down but also the communication points between each section or each island are ultimately very sensitive. And I’m going to show you today how they break down what they actually look like in the lab test in how we’re going to sort it out. What’s the main mechanism? So you could have two of these red arrows being a problem for a patient and the treatment plan is almost always the same thyroid placement. And and ultimately, if we’re bullying or covering up thyroid symptoms with thyroid replacement, it’s hard to solve problems like if we push the beach ball underwater deep enough. You can’t see the beach ball anymore and oftentimes that’s what’s happening with thyroid hormone. So I do like using thyroid hormone with patients. I think it’s necessary. I think it is a piece to the puzzle but when it is the puzzle, there is nothing but frustration and a lot of anger actually for thyroid patients. So that’s that’s frustrating. So very important. As we look at this mechanism, I told you that thyroid is actually a thermometer and a thyroid is a thermometer for metabolism. It’s a metabolic driver, and the hormone that comes out of the thyroid is essentially your foot on the gas pedal of your car. All right, so I’m gonna assume Dr. Clearfield you drive a Ferrari or something like that living in Reno, okay. And, you know, you put your gas pedal. You put your foot down on the gas pedal and you’re obviously going to go faster. Hey, well, when your brain decides to put its foot down on the gas pedal, it tells the thyroid to produce thyroid hormone, that thyroid hormone ends up you know in circulation. And we have thyroid hormone hitting a receptor site here and this receptor site is going to activate a whole mechanism of machinery inside of the cell that is going to take oxygen and glucose and it’s going to mash them together faster. Right? It’s going to make ATP faster. You’re going to make more co2 You’re going to exhale and your metabolic rate is going to increase so you eat food you breathe in oxygen, you mash them together, get ATP, you exhale co2, and that’s happening at this site here. Now as we age and as we have a pile up of toxic stress, right, it could be mechanical stress. Could be chemical stress, it can be psychological stress, right if you’re a news junkie, and what happens is we ended up driving dysfunction at the mitochondria. Like 20% of your body weight is made up of these little buggers this a lot 20% And when they begin to dysfunction, it’s not regional. Alright, it’s usually systemic. And so when we have dysfunction, head to toe, we end up creating a lot of this free radical damage or reactive oxygen species. There’s a paper I’m going to show you here in a little bit that talks about reactive oxygen species in a way that you don’t really hear scientists talk about it very often. And so it was kind of encouraging to see that maybe people are starting to get this. So anyway, all of this is going on. And as this free radical damage piles up, the cell becomes dirty. It’s like metabolic dust. As the cell becomes dirty on the inside of the cell, the cell is built for like 120 years, right is built for you gotta believe it’s at least built for 100 and that cell is going to make decisions off of longevity. So when you have a cell that’s dirty, is trying to live a long time. What’s to do is going to start creating a way that it can live longer, even if that means decreasing its output, decreasing its activity, maybe even decreasing its usefulness. And so you see the cells begin to downregulate function. Now one of the mechanisms which we’re not really going to go into a lot this evening would be something like insulin resistance where the cell membrane starts to protect itself from glucose being able to cross the cell. All right, so we’re decreasing our ATP production through a protective mechanism called insulin resistance. full blown diabetes is a protective mechanism. And if we don’t stop and ask, what’s it protecting us from, then we’re liable to participate with it. Right? So it’s protecting us from cell death. So this is one of those mechanisms. Another mechanism another way that we could decrease the metabolic rate of the cell is by taking you know T four and instead of allowing it to be converted into T three active thyroid hormone, we could maybe reverse that we can call these two over here reverse T three inactivating it. So now we’re left with 50% of the metabolic driver that we had before. So that would be a way that we could do it. Maybe if the cell if enough of the cells are irritated enough. Right have been trying to protect themselves enough we can create a little bit of inflammation. The inflammation begins to turn off certain functions in our you know, h a t area here our anterior pituitary axis, okay. I mean, this is, this is where we have to start thinking about the mechanisms from a, like a practical standpoint, because the patient shows up if they have high reverse T three, low normal T three, their TSH is normal and the doctor sitting there looking at him like I don’t know, you sound like a crazy person to me. It’s really frustrating for them. Okay, so this is what’s going on in the background though. So I want to get that first and foremost, we have the metabolic dust free radical damage piling up in the bodies left to try and sort it out. Right. So a couple of lab tests here that I just want to check out here for you just so that we can see a couple of comparisons. So here we have a patient thyroid globulin antibody showing up on this was back in May of a couple of years ago. 631 And then they had an update a few months later, it’s 558. So the thyroid globulin antibody is actually coming down the auto immune response. Right. Okay, but we look at their TSH content point oh seven, five, down to point o one, three, right. Neither of those are what I would consider to be appropriate. Okay, but the doctor given the patient armor here, a 68 year old female by the way, armor, you see the T for content go from six to eight. And you see the T three content this is a total T three go from 92
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up to 193.
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Okay, and so what basically is happening is is the doctor is giving them medication based off of their symptomatic experience, even though the labs don’t bear out a need for thyroid medication. Okay. And so here’s a question that I see that says, Are we legally in trouble if we prescribe thyroid hormones and the levels are normal? Right So for myself, I’ll I’ll remove myself from the situation. Because I’m in the natural care world. I can look at it and say, if I give somebody something that they don’t need based off of a lab, I will certainly get in trouble. Right. So I don’t know about a medical board etc As far as that’s concerned, but this would be the question. This is the standard of care right now. patient has the symptoms, even though the lab is point oh, seven, five, they’re still getting armor. I think that is an interesting decision. Okay. But I think that is much more common than we we could realize. So what’s gonna happen to the protective mechanism now? Right, so the patient goes from 92 here 92 On the thyroid, total T three, and we move it all the way up to something crazy in the 100 and change almost 200 here. Right? So we are overwhelming this protective mechanism that’s trying to down regulate thyroid function. I think it’s an interesting concept. Okay. So as patient number one, we’ll probably come back to them a little bit later. Here we have a second case is this 75 year old male on the left at the Rockson. Right, this is a case that actually went through a functional programming program. And we want to see a couple of pieces of this. I’m going to show you how this works as well. So you see there thyroglobulin antibody response go from 180 down to 58. Okay, and that’s a couple of months difference. They’re believers in 90 days. Their TSH goes from four to two up to 7.4. So we have the TSH getting fired up here. Meanwhile, the T four has remained the same. And that’s interesting, the cholesterol content, marginal change the triglyceride content, that’s a pretty cool change that’s good for them. So you see a difference here. This is a functional protocol versus the first patient which was straight replacement based off of symptoms. All right. So we’ll come back to these in a little bit, but I want to just put them out on the table so that we can rearrange them later as we go. So just now TSH, rose with care, and might be a little shocking, but I’m gonna tell you that’s the goal. Okay. That’s the goal. You’ll see why here in a little bit. We’re not going to leave them there, obviously, but that’s got to be the goal. So let’s talk about auto immunity here. And I have some storyboards that I made for you. And hopefully they make sense. And if they don’t make sense, you have to let me know so before we do that, I’m going to go through and just see if we can answer some of these questions here. First and foremost. So all right, says my patient, Ms. Anna says my patient at four years old Hashimotos for a long time takes their oxygen 50 micrograms. All right for about it three to five years or 35 years. It takes four milligrams out the end. Does now tricks on I’m assuming is what you’re saying there, which is cool. Over 1000 on the antibodies and over 900 esoteric globulin antibodies over 1000 TPO over 900 No significant improvement. Should she continue the low dose Naltrexone from a functional standpoint as far as I’m concerned, I would wholeheartedly support that and hopefully by the end of tonight you have a couple of other buttons that you can push and see if we can get those antibody responses to chill out a little bit. So all right, thank you for the question. It says Melvin here. Do you give thyroid meds even if the numbers are normal, but non optimal levels? Oh, good question. Being in the natural care world, I like to use what I would call fine tuning nutrients. So it’d be more of a natural thyroid replacement. If you look at glandulars, etc. And so we’ll use those to fine tune. Oftentimes you’ll have an endocrinologist that there’s like one or the other or the endo will say all right, here’s what we’re doing. You are in the lab range. So I’m going to see you in six months and see if you’re out of the lab range. And then you have others that are more creative with the dosing strategies. So I don’t know. You know, what I would say is more appropriate there but I will say this is that if you’re letting your patients go six months without you checking on the function of their metabolism and the thyroid if you’re not looking at the thermometer, so to speak. I think that’s too long. So thank you for the questions. Very good. All right. So here we have auto immunity. We’re going to be looking at these storyboards that I was talking about, so follow along here, okay. This is actually motos mechanism. We’re going to start in the bottom left hand corner. And so I showed you a route in fruit earlier, the graphic of the tree. And here’s a variation on that. Right here’s a storyboard these storyboards. I teach my patients because if my patients understand the storyboard, they’re going to be able to teach their doctor. Okay, so here we have in the blue box, the patient’s lifestyle and environment, right lifestyle and environment. And for some patients, they’re living a lifestyle. That’s not necessarily compatible with health and healing. It’s not necessarily compatible with optimal body weight, optimal emotional balance, you name it, right. So the other day found a case that had some nickel, exposure, nickel, lots of nickel actually. And you know that nickel can drive severe allergy reactions when it comes to barrier systems. I think it’s interesting mycotoxins Lippo polysaccharides being produced by the gram negative bacteria in the gut, better blood sugar imbalance scenario, some systemic inflammation, and we found a lot of the things that are in their body that are not supposed to be on what we call a total tox panel from a company that is called vibrant wellness. I don’t have any affiliation with them, other than I think they have an amazing product that helps a lot of people. So anyway, so you have a lifestyle and environment that’s combining with your DNA which is in here in green, and that’s forcing the immune system into a reactionary state. Okay. So if your lifestyle is driving your DNA to express inflammatory patterns, your immune system is going to participate at some point and at some point we started making antibiotics and so here this patient since this is a Hashimotos mechanism patient, they’re making antibodies here, right? They’re making antibodies here to thyroid peroxidase, maybe direct binding globulin and you see the immune system the red triangle impacting the thyroid Now, what’s cool, you just had a question here, or Melvin asks Is the problem what is the problem if the patient constantly needs to adjust the thyroid med? I’m going to show you right now. Okay. So when the immune system attacks the thyroid, it is lymphocytic infiltration of the thyroid, and that thyroid gland goes through a very fine layer of apoptosis. And so the cells begin to die. And it’s like a meme little kid with a needle walking up to you. And you’re holding 100 water balloons. Okay, the little kid starts popping the water balloons. Is he destroying the hormone? The water in the balloon. Now, he’s destroying the balloon. The same way as she motos is destroying the follicular cell. I have the thyroid and we end up leaching excess thyroid hormone into the bloodstream.
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So we’re actually destroying the thyroid gland, which is what I hope you’re seeing here. Looks like bullet holes in the thyroid. But what we actually are doing is we’re having cells dying of the thyroid, apoptosis, and we’re expelling that excess hormone that was already in the cell. We’re expelling that into circulation. So now what you see here is you have a patient that has what they’re leeching these little blue triangles. What they’re making T for a little T three, and the thyroid meds they’re taking already this large blue triangle on the bottom. You have three variables now in this patient’s thyroid hormones story, okay, so once the immune system is attacking, you are leaching. When you’re leaching, that’s excess hormones. So now we have more hormone, then what would be normally produced by the thyroid? Right over time, it is a losing venture over time, the thyroid is going to be in a Hypo state, as you would expect, okay. But the point is, is that functionally speaking right now you have what your leaching what you’re making in what you’re taking, that’s going to give you your current TSH, this patient shows up in your office, their TSH might be four. Okay, it within the pathological laboratory range. Right. And the reason is, is that they’re on meds, they’re still making thyroid hormone, and ashy motors is causing them to leach thyroid hormone into circulation. Okay, so this is stage one. Okay, stage one. So, one of the things that I found in these cases here so it was how she noticed hypothyroidism depression and anxiety. This is a sample of a total tox panel. This is what’s in that blue box by the way right here in the lifestyle and environment box is this trash. The rigor in a is a mycotoxin associated with water damaged food, wheat, oats, corn, barley, rice, rye, gluten free grains, nuts and seeds, dried fruit, right? It’s also associated with water damaged buildings. So anybody that lives south of like, Illinois, sorry. Okay. Here we also have butyl paraben parabens are carcinogenic. They usually come from personal care products like lotions and makeups and shampoos, some medications antibacterial agents. dimethyl phosphate is a farming chemical. It’s an insecticide and herbicide rather and it’s diabetogenic. And it’s obesogenic so this patient’s got weight gain along with their iPad thyroidism. And we have some endocrine disruptors here. Glyphosate. Glyphosate is an interesting one and may or may not be carcinogenic or diabetogenic. It depends on whose propaganda you’re reading I guess, during during the week, so we’ll just leave that one alone. And acetyl cysteine here na PR so this is an acetyl propyl cysteine not the nutrient and acetyl cysteine and a PR, this is carcinogenic. Alright, so this is something that you’re typically going to find from styrene products and, and the like. So anyway, interesting. So we see all of that in the root structure that’s pouring gas on the fire of this immune system. That’s effectively, you know, allowing these antibodies to eat the thyroid. Okay. So the patient goes through an intervention where we start getting rid of this trash, they start eating a more anti inflammatory diet. You know, maybe they’re moving more towards Mediterranean hay or if they’re trying to avoid the verruca, Rene, maybe they’re moving more towards paleo. I have well, we end up with a different storyboard here. You can see the lifestyle in genetics down here no longer pouring the same amount of fuel on the fire. Hey, they changed their lifestyle. So you got a big red line through the DNA here, right? We’re not pouring gas on this fire to the same extent, the antibody response starts to slow down okay, which means that the amount of thyroid hormone leaching out of the thyroid begins to slow down Okay, so, this is less thyroid hormone now. Right you still have what you’re making that didn’t change. You still have what you’re taking doctor didn’t change the amount of medication, right, but what changed was the amount of leaching you have. So we’re leaching less thyroid hormone. Well, what’s going to happen if we have less thyroid hormone overall, you’re going to see the TSH go up. Okay. So in a functional style program in a functional style setup here, I want to see the TSH go up in a Hashimotos case. That means that you have effectively slowed down the immune system from destroying the thyroid. Okay, that’s a pretty big deal. Now, if you go into the thyroid blogosphere out there right now and you read the comments that people are describing with their thyroid programming and their doctors, etc. You get somebody that raises their TSH and they are so upset. They think that the thyroid is even further damaged than what it was before. Right because the providers don’t understand this mechanism to be able to talk to the patient. They don’t understand that the immune system is eating the thyroid causing the leaching. Okay, so what most of the providers are doing out there is when they see this happening, they’re just giving the patient stimulants. Right. So what am I talking about Selenium, iodine, and they’re overwhelming the Hashimotos patient with you know, trophic factors trying to drive thyroid function. Well, if you have, you know, eight horses pulling a cart, and three of them go away. You can still move at the same speed the other horses just need to work harder. So when you’re giving patient you know, trophic factors here, like selenium and iodine in you’re whipping a thyroid, to work harder, faster, stronger, and it’s less of a thyroid already because it’s been eaten by Hashimotos. That’s a losing game in the long run. It’s a losing game. Those patients burn out over time, that thyroid will give up. Okay, so when you have Asha, notice patient what you want to see is a lifestyle intervention followed by an elevated TSH so that you know the gas has been stopped from being poured on a fire. So it’s, it’s really cool. It’s important, right but it’s really cool. So you want to see that TSH come up, obviously, you’re not going to leave it there. Okay, but we have to see that indicator first and foremost. Okay, now, when we go through that process, we end up in a situation now where we need to be able to either supplement with glandular Okay, and there are different strategies with that is not as fine tuned as he would like it to be. You know, when you talk about dosing, micrograms of liver thyroxin or something like that, fine tuned. Right, very, very targeted. And it’s pretty amazing that you can dose, a thyroid Med and eight out of 10 times you have the right dose, okay. With supplements, it’s a little bit less targeted. So if somebody has a question that says a glandular supplement almost as potent as a prescription thyroid, it depends on the patient’s gut, unfortunately, and it depends on the dosing strategy that you’re using with them. I use a very specific window of dosing and a very specific product and it’s not a bad genetics product, but I can tell you about it anyway because I appreciate what they’ve done for the industry. It’s a biotics research product. And it’s called GTA forte. GTA forte, so that is my glandular of choice that we use there. They have a couple of variations on it, but that’s, that’s the one. Okay, so we’ll tap that TSH, back down a little bit with the glandulars supporting the patient’s metabolic health. And as long as they’re keeping the wheels on and the blue box over here, we can continue to maintain. The question is what happens when they trip and they fall and you know, they go to the birthday party and you know, four pieces of cake and six pieces of pizza later, where are we? We’re back to this high end. And what happens is this TSH comes screaming down because they just poured gas on the fire and they exacerbated the leaching problem. Okay, so and they know it, they know it, the brain fog fires up, joint pain comes back, they get pains show up. It’s kind of amazing. Okay, so that’s the Hashimotos mechanism that’s a style of autoimmunity that you’re going to see. Okay, so a couple of other questions. Here says, What’s the problem? If the patient constantly needs to adjust their thyroid meds dosing, they have attack, relax, attack, relax, right? If you see the patient and they’re under attack, your thyroid labs are looking pretty good. And you know, the patient actually has a decent amount of energy. Is there their tea for this leaching into the bloodstream right now is pretty high.
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Okay, pretty high. The immune system relaxes
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TSH goes up, you see the patient and you’re like, wow, I guess we gotta adjust your thyroid meds again. So you move their TSH from seven down to three is what you’re trying to aim for. And they come back and it’s like that first patient at a point oh, seven, five. Well, that’s problematic. Okay. So problematic. So it becomes a sign again off again relationship with thyroid hormone in Hashimotos. So here’s the point. You have to get rid of the aggressor. There’s no progress for Hashimotos patients, right, even when you have thyroid globulin antibody over 1000 Doctor or TPO antibodies over 900 where the lab stopped reading it at 900. It might be 10,000. Okay, even when we see that we want to make sure that we are getting the Hashimotos thyroiditis to chill out through in a lifestyle intervention. Okay, and usually, usually, that requires a reset. Okay, yeah, I reset so I like biogenetics does a 21 day metabolic reset. It’s called the metabolic clearing protocol. And it’s where we start with most new patients like this patient if a patient walked in like this, we’re definitely starting okay. So, once hypothyroid state is reached in ashy motos, can it still present in the future with hyperthyroid? Yes, it can. Yes, sir. So once that attack is back on, right back, so be in the Midwest? Is corn fed people in the Midwest right so lots of mold on corn, and, you know, corn in the food, corn into beverages, all this stuff? So there’s a lot of gas being poured on this fire. Right. And when a patient is in hypothyroidism they can present as hyper. Yes. So speaking of hyperthyroidism, here’s a great mechanism. Okay. So, graves mechanism where we have the pituitary no longer participating in TSH production, we have the immune system producing thyroid stimulating immunoglobulin, right so now you have instead of Hashimotos that’s eating the thyroid. You have the immune system creating an immunoglobulin that’s telling the thyroid to produce thyroid hormone, and you get a boatload of it down here. Okay, you get a boatload of it. I have my OCD needs to fix that typo there. So when you look at, you know, thyroid stimulating immunoglobulin, and there’s six different names for this protein here that’s causing the thyroid to produce thyroid hormone without feedback loop interruption by the way, so the feedback loop will not turn off this immune system. Because it’s actually an inflammatory feedback loop. So same mechanism, though, we have to work on the lifestyle and environment and be able to get this to chill out. Right. The other thing that you guys oftentimes you’re gonna end up using as methimazole and it works really well. Right works really well. methimazole but if left untouched if you just give the patient methimazole and their lifestyle and environment don’t change those patients, the epic symptoms, right, they end up coming to a functional provider, and the functional provider ends up just having to be working with a patient that’s on methimazole let me just put it this way, is like trying to get somebody to lose weight while they’re eating an extra Papa John’s pizza every day. Okay, so it isn’t effective medication, but it has broad reaching, broad reaching effects. So it is amazing. So anyway, so same mechanism here though, the TSH is going to be held down by the methimazole. And to the extent that you can dampen the immune system’s activity here with DNA is you’re driving these inflammatory reactions is really to the extent that these patients end up healing. It’s pretty fun. So again, something that we appreciate with that. Now, the reason I want to talk about this is because the intervention, how do we work the intervention? Right, how do we handle that lifestyle reset? What it does is it jumpstart your body’s ability to start detoxing the root structure so that the DNA doesn’t have to express his chronic inflammatory patterns over time. And, you know, it’s a pretty easy walkthrough. There’s a an ideal program as far as the eating that comes along with it easy to follow, recipe guidelines, supplement guidelines, etc. Basically, if we’re going to fire up phase one, two and three liver detoxification mechanisms and help this patient really have a reset a metabolic reset, we want to see their TSH come up. So anyway, when you’re looking at thyroid testing remember to look at it as a thermometer rather than a driver. Your thermometer didn’t make it 25 degrees out there today, Dr. Clearfield it’s the thermometer is just responding to the environment and it’s the same thing with the thyroid. Okay. So develop a good relationship with the patient’s thyroid and they will love you
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for it. Alright, speaking of which, we hit off the auto
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immunity mechanism here where we’re controlling the toxicity. We’re controlling, obviously, the trophic factors with auto immunity, you’re giving the patient a quality dietary intervention. Right? All of that’s in the 21 day metabolic clearing protocol that I’m sure Kim is talking about in here. There you go. And it’s the place that we start with most new patients. Okay. Now, what I want to introduce to you over the rest of the time that we have here tonight is what I call peripheral resistance. And this is a concept that I’ve seen play out over the last decade of treating thyroid patients. Last Last year, I think it looked over 3000 cases of you know functional cases like this mostly metabolic cases diabetes in hypothyroidism. Now, when we look at that many cases in that number of labs, what happens is, is you start to see patterns and you start putting the patterns in categories and the categories start yielding strategy. So this is a strategy that has come with a lot of pain, okay? So I want you to take this for what it’s worth and you can decide to use it if you want or don’t. Okay, it’s up to you. So, what we do we have this thing called the CCE service, the clinical consulting service at biogenetics. To free service, you send your toughest cases into the biogenetic CC team, which I have trained, right and they have also participated in 1000s and 1000s of cases. So it’s me and another doctor Dr. Peterson and we’ll read those screencapture video for you. Right with your intake paperwork. So you’re showing what the patient’s brief history looks like in their labs, what their goals are, and will tell you what to do, how to do it, how long it should take what the patient should expect. And we’ll send you that screen capture video through a HIPAA approved methods. You keep it we want you to be the expert, right? And so you go ahead and you deliver the information through your mouth to your patient, and you change their world. Okay, last year we did a lot of cases over 3000 of them. And and so if you haven’t participated in that yet, it’s a free service. Right. All you got to do is just connect with Kim here. She’s in the chat box and she can get that set up for you. All right. If you haven’t done it with a patient yet at least do it with yourself so you can see what we’re talking about. And you know, get on the right path. So changing lives is what this is about. So anyway, peripheral resistance. Here is a paper where we’re talking about interaction of the endocrine system with the inflammation. And this one was back in 2014. As you can see here, it says it’s a function of energy and volume regulation. high volume of what volume of inflammation. And so I want to see how the endocrine system responds to the weather. How the thermometer responds to the weather how the endocrine system responds to the inflammatory build up that’s in the body. Okay, so it says here, I’m just gonna read probably the first and last sentence for you it says during acute systemic infectious disease, precisely regulated release of energy rich substrates. And auxiliary elements such as calcium, phosphorus etc. are highly important because the factors are needed by an energy consuming immune system in a situation with little or no food slash water intake. Okay, that’s called sickness behavior. The sickness behavior is not only a patient’s interaction with their environment, meaning am I going to go eat food or not eat food sickness behavior is also a cellular function. Okay? Also a cellular function. All right, so they go on to explain a few other things here. Says in chronic inflammatory diseases, a preponderance of energy expenditure pathway is switched on. Right sickness behaviors switch down, leading to typical hormonal changes such as insulin resistance, hypo androgen anemia, right? Don’t we have that going on right now in the United States? Hypo vitamin osis, mild hypercholesterolemia, which these are all already impacting thyroid hormone, right, increased activity, the sympathetic nervous system. Like nobody has that going on right now. Okay. And then we also have the renin angiotensin aldosterone system. Though necessary during acute inflammation in the context of systemic infection or trauma, these long standing changes contribute to increased mortality in chronic inflammatory diseases. Now, I’d submit to you that you’re also seeing that in the context of thyroid disease. Okay, super interesting. So read that paper if you got a few minutes. Here we also have a another paper that I want to talk about talking about thyroid hormones oxidative stress and inflammation. The relationship between those three says the production of RLS reactive oxygen species and reactive nitrogen species occurs at a cellular level in response to metabolic overload caused by the overabundance of macronutrients. Pause. That is an assumption that back in 2016, I’m sure was okay to make. At this point in time when we talk about overload metabolic overload caused by an overabundance of macronutrients. They’re saying this patient ate too many calories. What they’re missing is the mitochondrial damage that’s done through things like COVID. Alright, somebody asked about COVID here. Okay, the inflammation associated with you know, any RSV situation, right? It’s not, we’re not just talking about you ate too much food. We’re talking the calories are too high. We’re talking about anything, it could be food, it could be an inflammatory driver, because you got exposed to too much barium during medical study. Right. I think last time I was here, Dr. Clifford was talking about gadolinium. And the point is, is that any of these things can drive mitochondrial dysfunction. It doesn’t have to be food so that is a representation here of their position, I guess. So. Anyway, in addition, mitochondrial dysfunction and endothelial reticulum stress contribute to adipose tissue metabolic derangement in obese patients. The RLS generation further maintained by the inflammatory response in the adipose tissue itself, adipokines, et cetera, feeds the vicious cycle. The picture is worse in pre and post puberty children, because puberty alter some of the inflammatory markers associated with endothelial dysfunction, right you’re also going to read about the thyroid in this study as well. So I thought this was super cool as they laid out reactive oxygen species and reactive nitrogen species in a way that lets you identify them almost as a personality. Right? Something in the patient’s body that is in too high of an abundance. It shouldn’t be there. It’s not like when you look at a thyroid patient that feels crazy because their TSH is up, it’s down, it’s up, it’s down, the immune system is on again, off again on again off again. And they’re living on this roller coaster of a TSH. They’re talking to the doctor and the doctors like I don’t know what to tell you. Because doctors got 14 minutes and a prescription pad for left with the rocks. And what happens is, is the patient’s left out to figure out this information on their own and they can’t do it.
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They can’t do it. So we
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end up in this position now. Right where they feel like their dysfunction is a character trait. And it’s not them. Right. It’s just the dysfunction at a mitochondrial level. Right. It’s not them. All right, so important. It’s not a character trait. Sometimes you got to tell people that. All right. So same study here. Just a definition on the bottom and T is nonthyroidal illness syndrome. This is where they have all of the symptomatic experience of hypothyroidism but their lab tests look normal. Okay. So, they go on to talk about your oxidative stress can be related to hormonal derangement in a reciprocal way. Some hormones influence antioxidant levels, like thyroid hormone, more thyroid hormone drives more reactive oxygen species. Okay, if you want more antioxidants, you don’t want to spend them as fast. You can end up having to decrease your thyroid hormone. On the other hand, oxidative stress can modify synthesis activity and metabolism of hormone themselves. Right therefore oxidative stress is related to both systemic inflammation and hormonal derangement. So what’s happening is is the oxidative stress is the weather here. The thyroid is just the thermometer. Okay, the oxidative stress is our peripheral resistance. This is really cool. Reduced glutathione is an important cofactor both antioxidant enzymes and deiodinases. guy that would be one to underline the enzymes responsible for the conversion of T four into T three, right? Moreover, plasma levels of small antioxidant molecules like vitamin E and cokie 10. Thyroid hormones are closely related to each other. I’ll go further and say that as you see serum levels of CO Q, 10 Vitamin D glutathione declining, you are seeing the deiodinase activity move from the T four to T three conversion into the T four to reverse T three conversion, which is basically deactivating thyroid hormone as a protective mechanism to stave off apoptosis of the cells. All right, both hyper and hypothyroidism have been shown to be associated with the oxidative stress model. And especially cases are the autoimmune thyroiditis or the functional picture of low T three syndrome about fell out of my chair when I read this the other day, somebody in 2016 Not in the functional medicine world had to say functional picture of low T three syndrome observed in acute and chronic nonthyroidal illness syndrome. Alright, so this is a viewpoint that if you understand the viewpoint, the peripheral resistance viewpoint to hypothyroidism
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right, what you’re left with is a goldmine for your patients. Okay, your patients.
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Lionfish for this way, you got 98% of thyroid population in the United States going in the wrong direction right now. At least 98%. Right. And most of the 2% that are going in the right direction are going in the right direction and they have no idea why. Right? They think they found the magic diet or whatever it is. Right and what I want you to see here is that it’s based off of peripheral resistance. So if we cut a section of that graphic I showed you earlier, where the pituitary is telling the TSH excuse me telling the thyroid to produce thyroid hormone through TSH and you have this feedback loop. Modern Medicine says that inflammation shuts off the feedback loop mechanism between
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thyroid hormone in circulation and the pituitary. Okay, so too much tea for you would expect the feedback loop to turn off, right? TSH goes down. What they’re also saying is that inflammation will do the same thing. Meaning poor old pituitary, just getting victimized by inflammation there once again, instead of understanding that the pituitary is making a an intelligent decision not to produce TSH because it doesn’t want the rest of the cells in the body to go through mass apoptosis, right like the central nervous system is wired for 120 It is an amazing thing is amazing. It makes decisions passively, right for longevity that most people would not make on their own, even if given the opportunity to do so. This is one of them. systemic inflammation is PERIPHERAL RESISTANCE pituitary decreases metabolic push, TSH, okay, lift sets foot off the gas pedal in response to that peripheral inflammation. Right. Inflammation suppresses pituitary function. That’s one way of saying it. I’m telling you, this is the viewpoint that I want you to have in the next 10 years. This is going to be a thyroid revolution. Okay. Your pituitary decides to decrease metabolic rate in response to peripheral resistance.
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All right. It’s like this.
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It says, I don’t know if this is accurate. It looks like LA. So here we are. If you ever been in LA traffic, you know what I’m talking about. Okay. So here you’re driving in traffic. Your car is willing to go 120 miles an hour, but you’re stuck doing 12 Okay. Is it the cars problem? No, it’s in there’s resistance in front of it. Your environment is not going to allow you to go 120 Okay, but the moment that traffic opens up, the moment those cars step aside. What do you do? You push your foot to the floor and you are out of there, enough of going 12 miles an hour in the left lane, right? That’s what you do. And so the thing with the thyroid is it’s going to do the same deal. Right? When we have peripheral resistance, when we have this buildup of free radical damage inside of the cell. And because of the patient’s genetics, they’re not choosing insulin resistance. Their body is choosing thyroid dysfunction. As a protective mechanism I’m telling you clean up the route structure, go through a renovation of the patient’s lifestyle. And if you don’t want to do it, give them a plug and play protocol, like the one from biogenetics a 21 day protocol. Right and let us walk them through it for you. Right You don’t even have to learn the protocol if you don’t want to. We have assets in the cloud that’s me on camera telling the patient Hey, you doctor chose to use this. Here’s why. Okay, it works really well. And I just I love introducing people to it because it is a massive step in the right direction. When we start cleaning out the trash and the root structure, forcing the DNA to produce patterns that are associated with Vitality, instead of chronic inflammation, bulldozing a patient’s life over and over. So anyway, I see that if you have questions about it, make sure you’re reaching out to kim@biogenetics.com and she’ll take care of you from there. What I want to do. Dr. Clearfield you can come back on here if you’d like but what I want to do is go through the chat box and make sure answered questions as it relates. So let’s see what else do we have here? What other lab panels do request before treating thyroid? So we have a basic blood screen that we typically recommend for patients and if you want information on that you can get that through Kim. Typically, you know sometimes doctors just send in a symptomatic questionnaire for the patient their intake paperwork and and we’ll piece it together that way too if we have to. But basically what we want to be able to do is you know, have enough information to help the patient but not so much that they drowned in, you know, inability to implement anything. So that obviously is going to be sensitive to that as well.
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I just want to add something here. I’m Dr. Hadassah by the way but nice presentation. I like everything you said and and it clicks very well with the with chronic disease prevention management where we are restoring the redox and metabolic and immune and regenerative status of the patient. And what you’re doing you have this oxidative stress, which are those free radicals generators that the mold and toxins and the all these environmental toxins which aggravate them the immune system, and it’s causing the shift possibly to TX 17 th one case of terabytes. That’s why you also have the free radicals is shutting down the conversion of t 43. So if you add that to the to the equation here I think when you start explaining how the free radicals increasing the inflammation, inflammation is breaking down the thyroid thyroid is releasing TRT for but the T four is not converting to T three because that’s been blocked too by oxidative stress and southern feeling, you know tired and fatigue not because they don’t have enough T four but because they don’t convert into T three. And when you take that when you do the detoxing and you restore the metabolism and you detox the body and inflammation subsided and then you have less D four but also you have less D four but those T fours converting to T three because that is the Ireland A’s and Zyme has now been functioning and is converted to T three still I think they better not fatigue because even you have less D four is still enough to convert to T three and T three is giving you the functional effect of the tariff scene. Do you agree with me that in that way?
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Yes sir. So the efficiency of that conversion definitely ramps up as you you see the RLs content decreasing. So
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three has been converting good which patients feel still feel better than than oxidative stress now, whereas the mistake it happen is that a lot of doctors they start giving tyrosine before they detox so if you give that tea for and the patient is still toxic, right? That’s right. What happens if you detox them? They may end up with becoming hyperthyroid. Right.
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That’s correct. And that’s what I that’s what I tell patients is like don’t take this the wrong way. But I want to see your TSH come up first. Okay, we’ll leave it there but I want to see the indicator.
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So that’s right. Cool.
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What was the name of the the outfit you’re talking about their doctor? You said there’s some work you were doing with? I didn’t care. Yeah, we were
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trying to form what we call chronic disease prevention management. Has a new medical specialty that’s been entertained by American Medical Association. Oh, cool. They ended up writing CGPM they’re trying to integrate it into medical school and to followship residency show we trying to line up with with ama because if you line up with ama you protect it.
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Yeah, well, no kidding. That’s amazing.
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Right? They integrate a progenitor of all those are snake oil and all that stuff and they already trying them. But if you use their terminology and what they think that they’re being blessed, and you put it in your hat, then you can protect it. So it’s just politics. It’s It’s crazy, you know, because the people are running medicine or the pulling from politics of the medicine and putting the regulatories are not doctors. Right, right. They are a CEO and all of them they are influenced by big pharma and the big money and and they’re directing the whole protocols and and I think that’s the reason is just the control is not medical doctors and if there are medical doctors in the end and the control, they already sold their soul to the Big Pharma. So that’s what we are, I think having in this health system, we have the United States.
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So do you have do you guys have like an organization or website or anything like that
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right city is EDPM s chronic disease prevention my CDP chronic CDP MCs cp mcs.com That’s the website and Dr. Williams, my friend so
Bill Clearfield 1:09:08
type it in the chat that girl Awesome. Okay, cool.
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Hey, good. Let’s see we got a couple of other questions here. Thank you, by the way for jumping in on that comment. That’s appreciate that. So what else? Thank you guys for being here. This is great. So what’s my opinion of LDN four milligrams by Hashimotos. Show so early on in my career, I would have said I’m going to try to do everything as natural as I can. And I think that’s partially because, you know, you’re you’re a little zealous coming out of school knowing what you know, and all this stuff. And but the other half of it, I think, is because I just didn’t know. And, you know, and I think it might have been unfair to patients as a younger provider to steer them clear of some of these interventions that are very gentle and help them with their quality of life drastically. And naltrexone happens to be one of those that I’ve seen change people’s quality of life on believably and without too much of a, you know, hindering side effects. Anywhere. So if my patients are looking at that, I will usually encourage them to go ahead and do that. And it puts us much further down the road than it would be otherwise. It’s It’s pretty awesome. So very helpful.
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So thank you for your question there.
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All right. Any other questions? You guys would like to talk about?
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Anything at all?
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So if you have any information about the chronic Oh, it says here do you check for chronic infections in relation to thyroid problems? Yes, that is a good question. Yep. Yes, we do. So what about
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are you dealing with any vaccine injury?
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So that one is a touchy subject, I’ll say outside of biogenetics Yes. So for myself, that is something that we’ve seen a lot of information around. And there’s a lot of people that have interesting responses genetically right now to the different stressors in those environments. And so you know, COVID What was everybody doing during COVID? How do I boost my immune system? Dr. You’re right. And so everybody’s taking all these th one stimulants, thinking that there’s no consequence for that. And two years later, auto immunity is a dumpster fire in the United States right now. And then we also have the vaccination side effect of it. And, you know, so it’s, it’s a brave new world out there. I’ll just say that I guess. So supplementally views a very similar approach to what I’ve presented here with a 21 day metabolic clearing protocol for bio genetics. And, you know, if you if you have any of those cases, where you’re looking at them going, there is something that right here, you know, send the case over to the CC team at biogenetics. And, you know, and we’ll look at it from our different viewpoint, and, you know, and through your viewpoint and our viewpoint, usually we come up with a strategy where we can take and push the patient case in the right direction for them. I mean, just the other day, there was a lady that was using tranquilizers because of pain. It was post injection pain. I’ll just call it injection pain, okay? Post injection pain, tranquilizers laying in bed, and she can’t get up. Right? And so she’s sleeping until like, one in the afternoon because of the hangover effect. And you know, and we end up in a situation where she needs a lifestyle reset. She’s got kids, you can’t be sleeping till one o’clock every day. And so start moving the lady in the right direction and she gets a life back. And you know, she’s had enough tranquilizers to put down a donkey. But you know, it’s it doesn’t like it’s not glamorous for people but it made a difference. For that lady, you know, where lifestyle reset, it’s work, but sometimes it’s worth it. So, all right, we have it says here another question. What infections Do you check? Very commonly we’re looking at EBV very commonly we’re looking at Lyme. Yeah, those are those are the big ones is stool samples. I run those quite a bit. So looking for enteropathy whatever might show up there. So
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Stefan, Have you fixed a tire before? Like, you know, you got the dynamic wherever that the tire shop, right. And you have holes in your tires. You know how they fix it, they put in the water, right? And they see there’s bubbles, right? That’s right. I think I think I think it’s a similar concept to doctors. Like yourself. It’s Biogenics. Right? So you have you have a tire with many holes. And those those, those conditions, mold and mechanical stress Glutino that those are the holes, right? Yeah. And basically you’re screening for all those holes because those are holes. are leaking free radicals, pathological free radicals, and they aggravating the inflammation and causing the resistance. And you’re checking for all those holes and making sure and you pass them on. So if you fix a couple of holes, right, and you say, Well, you know what, just do the FordPass thing and pesticide whatever, and he still have other holes in the tire will not inflate and will not be you cannot drive it. So I think you are providing them with the protocols that helps to patch the holes. And it’s all based on data collection of the data from the patients. And that’s where ama American Medical Association’s they find out there’s a problem there. In the doctor’s collecting data. They’re not comprehensive. They’re collecting the data that is related to those holes. Right. And so they are very narrow minded or very tunnel vision and their speciality. And of course, if you’re trying to manage for example, as you monetize by the mainstream medicine, I think Dr. William is agree with me actually, he has a very big lecture. For that, and showing the difference between mainstream medicine and integrative doctors. Imagine so many terabytes. And those mainstream medicine they don’t care about the holes. They don’t care about oxidative stress, in fact, oxidative stress, some of the mainstream doctors, they service a fantasy, right? Yeah, and they just give them the thyroxin and just go ahead. Right and then Dr. Williams say no, it’s not about giving the tyrosine it’s also about reducing inflammation, and all the codes eight of all the agents and all the leaking all those free radicals, those holes and trying to screen them and find them and patch them to you can decrease the inflammation of thyroid because if you don’t, those then chronic inflammation, thyroid can lead to cancer. But those mainstream endocrinologist they don’t care about the inflammation and progression of inflammation. But that’s where there’s a good lecture from Dr. William showing the difference between management and he did the same thing almost here between the management of the mainstream medicine and an integrative Doctor integrative Doctor integrative approach and how we are way way more better than the mainstream medicine and managing disease. Do you agree with me Dr. William?
Bill Clearfield 1:17:08
Well, of course I’m the one who wrote it. So yes, of course. Yes.
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Yeah, I do. So very good. Yeah.
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I appreciate you guys. Tonight. This is great.
Bill Clearfield 1:17:25
appreciate having you Dr. Watson, as always, and if you are Kim want to put the link or something that will get your get our folks to get to your webinars on Friday.
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Yeah, that’s great. Go. Can I ask one more question? Sure. Go ahead.
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Cancer. What’s your recommendation on diet with cancer patients or do you outsource them out?
1:17:55
So I will say that I personally do not treat the cancer in the patient, but I’ll treat the environment around them. Okay. So looking at this, based on context, as to the dietary recommendations, you have veganism on one side. All right, and then you have the I only ribeye on the other side. Okay, and if the patient’s got cancer, and they’re already over here, they can’t go any further in that direction. So you have to start looking for the carcinogenic exposure in that diet. Right? Versus a patient who’s like, hey, all I eat is ribeye and I have cancer. Well, I want to find out what carcinogenic exposure you’re dealing with in this lifestyle. Now, the reality is, is most people are somewhere over here in the middle. And so what we want to do is actually look for the carcinogens that their body is exposed to. I will 100% of the time run tox panels on these patients. There’s a company called vibrant wellness in California, Southern California, I believe. They have a product called the total tox panel. That’s going to screen for environmental toxicities. You’re gonna see mycotoxins which is crazy town and then you’re also going to see heavy metals. And so this is a just a urine sample. So I would you probably want to push or like prime the pump a little bit with some glutathione or something like that before you take the test but running those on every single patient every single time is what I recommend if they’re coming in with, you know, some life altering condition or diagnosis like that. So you want to find it because what what happens is is they end up exposing six or seven different carcinogens and you’re like, Well, where are you getting it? If you got foot pain and there’s a rock in your shoe nobody takes Advil, right? So what you want is is to figure out where are you getting that exposure? Where is this coming from? And you know, how can we facilitate removal of that trash number one if your kidneys are expelling it. And then number two, how do we make sure that you stop taking that in? You know, that’s, it’s just a very small section of the population right now that looks for carcinogens when there’s a cancer diagnosis president so I would say you gotta look from a diet perspective. I’m going to find something that’s anti inflammatory for them based off of their patterns, and based off of what their you know, genetic predispositions look like. We do lots of HLA testing. If you’re familiar with HLA, Dr DQ testing or any of the work by Dr. Richie Shoemaker, we do a lot of that. So.
1:20:44
All right.
1:20:46
I don’t know if that answers your question or not. But
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no, that was perfect, actually. Completely agree. All right.
1:20:56
So what else do we have here? All right. So if you go on fiber unwellness, by the way, and you’re looking for something called the total tax burden, it’s going to be in a special section of their website that you only have access to after you get a login. And it’s called discount panels which is even better.
1:21:17
You can find that there
Bill Clearfield 1:21:23
okay, well, thank you doctor. Watch. That was terrific as always. And I will be bugging you and Jim again in a few months for for another another another helping here.
1:21:37
All right. All right. Well, thanks.
Bill Clearfield 1:21:39
Anybody else have any comments or questions?
1:21:43
There’s one more there’s one more comment or a question in the chat about dental
1:21:47
microbial health.
1:21:49
How important is dental and microbial health by thyroid? That is such a loaded question, but it is an important question. So I think it’s extremely important. Yeah. I’m not gonna I don’t want to get up in anybody’s face about anything but I will say that when you’re looking at talks panels in you’re seeing the signature of amalgams coming out of people’s bodies, you gotta start asking questions of where it’s coming from. So one of my favorite doctors on the planet at Quicksilver Scientific Dr. Shade has a great great Oh did I do that? Or did you guys do that?
Bill Clearfield 1:22:32
No, I think I did that. Okay.
1:22:35
I was like, I don’t know what I just did. Sorry. Dr. Shades got a great test. It’s called a Mercury try test. And when you start seeing this the signatures of dental amalgams I mean, I don’t know how you argue with that. And so, so I will constantly be pushing patients toward fixing that situation in a healthy way if we can. So
1:23:01
yeah, if you haven’t flame and got famous gum, it’s like inflamed gut. You know, you have leaky leaking of free radicals, and inflammation and toxins of the bacteria going into the body. And definitely that will aggravate any underlying inflammation, and any inflammation chronically can lead to cancer. So yeah. So it’s, it’s the same concept like leaky gut.
1:23:26
And what the doc brings up here also, the oral microbiome is just such a huge opportunity for improvement for people, especially when they’re dealing with conditions like psoriasis, when they’re dealing with conditions like cognitive decline even just addressing the oral microbiome, is looking at a study the other day with psoriasis where they had 100% of patients have some level of improvement in their case 100% of patients in the study using something called Salivarius K 12, which is like an old run of the mill probiotic that costs $14. So it’s an amazing thing. So anyway, that’s right, doc. So oral microbiome is a big deal to
1:24:10
all right. Dr. Watts, if I could ask a question. This is Rafael here, out of Nevada. And you mentioned with the talks panel, you stating that someone should utilize the firearm before doing the panel or should you should there be some level of disruption to get a better snapshot picture when testing?
1:24:37
So one of the things that I found is that if I don’t use glutathione before, you know just a couple of days of glutathione before running the tox panel is I’m relying on what their genetic ability to detox this trash exists as already. Okay, and for some people, they’re sick, so you’re gonna find something, right. But if we mobilize it if we push and then you catch all of that urine in a cup, you’re going to you’re going to see a dumpster fire. To use that term a second time. You’re gonna see a dumpster fire of a test. And I think it’s important for people to know what they’re dealing with. You know, one of the other reasons why I’ve been pushing before we run that test is because if you run a follow up test, and you’ve been detoxing with a patient for four months, six months, whatever it might be, there’s a strong likelihood that that test is going to look even more busy
1:25:31
later on.
1:25:33
So it’s, I think it’s important just to get a clearer picture there.
1:25:36
Tip number two,
Bill Clearfield 1:25:43
how much does a test cost doctor wants?
1:25:45
It depends. On what their market rate is, but usually between 304 100 bucks so if you buy the pieces individually, the three sections individually, I think it’s like 700 bucks, so they give you a good deal.
1:26:00
Well, why why are you doing it? I mean, it’s better if the patient’s if the data has been collected. And that would narrow down the lab that you require instead of just doing everything right.
1:26:11
Yeah, so I’m not doing everything necessarily. I’m doing the three that I find to be pertinent for the auto immune side of things. They have a pretty expensive lineup of tests that you could run, you could easily spend five grand so I don’t know if that’s what you’re talking about or not, but
1:26:34
I’m talking about the state. It’s economically it’s better if the patient is that you take the complete data from the patients. And when you take the data from the patients with comprehensive data, then you prioritize the lab that you’re going to do and instead of just doing everything, you know, it’s not cost effective that way. And you know, the if it’s everything is Kashi or you need to make sure that you know you’re not over load to another word burden to patients with with the money of course there’s you can do all this the you know that tree that you have those all that test, but that will cost too much of money. But if the if you take a very nice that’s why the American Medical Association, they’re focusing on you know, taking history and making sure the patient’s history has been taken right. So that you can narrow down the diagnosis and narrow down the management, the treatment and it will be more cost effective.
1:27:33
That’s right. So I you know, nobody likes to spend five grand on testing and not have any money for groceries so prohibitive to getting
1:27:44
well. All right.
Bill Clearfield 1:27:48
Okay, cool. All right. Dr. Watts, thank you so much. And Kim. Thank you. All right. I’ll see you guys later. Thanks. Again. Again, biology. Genetics, is their is their company and we’ll get you their contact information if you need it. Next week, I’ve had a number of people tell me they’d like to speak next. Week and then dropped out. So at the at this very moment, as we’re speaking I don’t have anybody so if there’s anybody here that wants to to have present anything, please let me know. And, and yes, thank you for a very informative presentation. anybody has anything that they’d like to present? Please let me know because next week at the moment, we’re open,
1:28:37
I will present if you don’t find anybody, but give me the last thing. Give me something if you need something. I got lots of lectures. Here we go. You got him. So go with the C Fonda.
Bill Clearfield 1:28:48
Okay. All right. Otherwise, you guys are stuck with me. You know, I have a lot of lectures too, but I get kind of tired of listening to myself. So
1:28:57
we haven’t heard you in a while. Give us a good one.
Bill Clearfield 1:29:01
Or let me think about it. Okay, so I’m doing a MMG and in the three weeks, I’m supposed to do thyroid and cortisol in 45 minutes. You think I can do it?
1:29:11
Yeah, the things that you’re going to give to AMG, just give it to us.
Bill Clearfield 1:29:15
Okay, and then there’s a case history too. So. Okay, well, I’ll talk to you Steve and Dr. Loss. I’ll give you a call to anybody else. You know, has any anything they’d like to present please let me know. And okay, so yeah, Dr. Jacqueline says we can practice on you. We’ve been doing that for the last two and a half years. What do you think we’ve been doing here? So, John, you got anything for us? I was good. was good. What’s doing with Roseanne and Honduras and your project?
1:29:48
It’s all totally solid constructions coming along and rotana in a big way. And everything’s just totally positive. The new medical school that’s being built osteopathic medical schools being built 30 minutes from me in West Virginia and I think they have a lot of interest in the type of things we speak of. They think integrative medicine is the wave of the future. We’re not used to hearing that our way.
Bill Clearfield 1:30:14
No no, we’re actually used to the opposite.
1:30:19
Everything’s going beautifully. Well, thank you.
Bill Clearfield 1:30:21
Yeah, he’s good. Okay. Anybody else have anything to add with new folks and John,
1:30:26
are you in right now? No, man, I’m a West Virginia hillbilly forever.
1:30:32
Oh, what are you going to Hawaii then?
1:30:34
When I get done with this group, and all the good things we can do, the medical school officially opens in two years. And once we get that thing rolling, I’m going to connect them with you guys and you can take over
1:30:49
there you go. Yep. Okay.
Bill Clearfield 1:30:53
Okay, so a couple of new faces and a couple of old friends. It’s good to see you all. Have a great holiday. It’s a holiday for lots of us coming up. And we’ll see you again next week. Same time, same station, right now. It’s it’ll be mystery hour,
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- Okay, so
Bill Clearfield 1:31:18
thank you and good night. Chc. And next week, everybody tonight