Biological Dentistry-Dr. Scott Chandler
Tue, 2/8 4:55PM • 1:18:44
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
dentists, cavitation, patients, teeth, titanium implants, bone, root canal, big, infection, meridian, area, implants, mercury, lectures, laser, chandler, surgery, years, people, bacteria
SPEAKERS
Bill Clearfield
00:04
even more yeah
00:23
yeah disclosure wherever.
Bill Clearfield 00:31
Yeah
00:36
no but thank you
00:44
Dave and bill.
Bill Clearfield 00:45
Hi everybody how we doing? Good. Hey, I ran into somebody giving another talk at the microcurrent conference in Phoenix. Okay. I said, Hey, I
00:58
know another guy talking there and she’d like to meet you or you can she’s doing a three hour talk on the eye and
Bill Clearfield 01:05
I think that’s the same one opposite me, actually. Oh, really? I’m doing three hours on head injury. So, okay. Yeah, she’s personally I really don’t know a whole lot about this micro accounting stuff. I’ve read a little bit about it. But yeah, I get it.
01:21
She used to talking about the different frequencies of microcurrent for different tissues and also the different colors associated with that. And paths, kind of like forming a field between the front and back of the head for treatment for the eye stuff, stuff like that. Interest, you know,
Bill Clearfield 01:38
like, it’s like they, they treat lots of stuff. So
01:40
yeah, like, you know, acupuncture leaves microcurrent you know, right,
Bill Clearfield 01:45
but I don’t have to use a machine and I know she’s got all these three weeks of training programs. There’s a whole program in Tuscany you can go to for five days.
01:54
Yeah, sounds like they got a lot of stuff there. So anyway, so yeah, her name is Laurie. Taken. I said, Oh, I know guys. So she wrote your name down if you run into her Okay, well,
Bill Clearfield 02:07
I’m sure I don’t know how many who’s going to be there or how many are going to be there. But anyway, I just said to the lady who runs the thing it looks you know, looks like they’re they have quite a quite a going, whatever it is. I’m not really sure what it is. But
02:24
yeah, I’ll be interesting for you to see, I guess.
Bill Clearfield 02:28
Okay, well, we don’t don’t seem to have our speaker yet.
02:34
So so um,
02:40
are you guys talking about acupuncture somewhere somehow?
Bill Clearfield 02:45
I’m going to teach I’m going to Phoenix in a couple of weeks to talk about. I’m going to do head they wanted head injuries. You know what I do on head injuries and it’s some outfit that does microcurrent specific frequency microcurrent it’s called. Well, me, I’m not sure. I don’t know a whole lot of gaurd began our speaker here. I don’t know a whole lot about that. I’ve been reading a little bit about it.
03:16
I Chandler. Morning. How are you? Good afternoon, I guess. Yeah,
Bill Clearfield 03:21
thank you for being with us. Our crowd usually shows up right around five and they’ll still during those latest 530 sometimes so. We usually get started around five ish. So. Okay, so we usually have anywhere from 20 to 40 is our usual census 30s Pretty pretty average. We’ve been doing this for about an hour, an hour, a year and a half. And we’ve had some pretty lively discussions and we have some nobody gets into any fistfights with anybody because we’re all separated but it’s a pretty pretty open minded group. Most of us are alternative medicine, physicians or integrative medicine physicians. We run under the rubric of American Osteopathic Society of rheumatic diseases. Oh, by the way. So last summer I we attempted to change our name to integrative medicine. I definitely forgotten about it. I got a letter. I got an email this just yesterday saying that they turned us down. So ah, and if they want it if they want it if we wanted to become an we’d have to like the form a whole new charter and do the whole whole nine yards. So so be it. So what you know,
04:51
wait, wait, I gotta say something it does doesn’t matter because we had a backup plan and the backup plan is working even better than our formal requests. And in the long run, we’ll be able to make it happen.
Bill Clearfield 05:05
And we won’t have you actually, uh, you’re probably right, because then we won’t have to answer them. That’s right. So those of you who so it’s all good. Yeah, those of you who have gotten our mailings and our brochures, you know, so the latest, then I’ll let you begin that agenda. So delay so so we are we are we have our conference annual conference is going to be in Las Vegas this year at the Flamingo hotel March 25. To 27th. Dr. Peter makalah will be coming. We’re going to have a reception for him on Friday night, the 25th and he’ll be giving us a lecture on Saturday morning, the 2016. So that’s the latest. I have to do a little juggling with the schedule. I know a couple of you have asked to to, you know to speak and I haven’t gotten gotten back to you yet. Hang on to your hats. We have enough online speakers that I what I’m thinking of doing is either having them live online or videotaping their conference of their talks. And because we have a breakout room so we can we can sort of have the live people there and then sort of the breakout room. We can have that as an extra. I’m trying trying to get some extra CME credits and by the way, for those of you who are needed, we were also certified by for the eight for AMA credits for 24 ama category one credits also. So we’re good to go. And most of the ancillary folks that I know, they can usually go to you know, they usually go to any type of CME credits, especially the AMA ones. I know the physical therapist and the pharmacist I think are under that Mary Elaine, I don’t know if your group is you know, get credits for AMA CME credits but so and I know Dr. Or wine and Dr. Southern hang on to your hats we’ll get to you as far as getting there for lectures. So, okay with that. Dr. Scott Chandler was introduced to me by a very good friend of mine, Jim na Corrado, who’s my practice coach, and Dr. Chandler is a biological dentist. He is in Park City, Utah, and he’s been gracious enough to spend an hour or so with us and give us some of his insights on what he does so I’m gonna let him introduce himself and we will fade out into the background anybody have any questions put it in chat, Dr. Chandler if you have a slideshow you can get can share the screen and have that if that and I will let anybody else in who shows up so take it away. All right,
07:52
screens. And
Bill Clearfield 07:58
the other thing is that we would like to record it. That’s okay with you.
08:06
And away you go.
08:09
Wow. To unmute myself. There we go. So first of all, we’re talking about your meeting or any of your group members are belong to the IE O and T. Um,
Bill Clearfield 08:22
I I don’t I heard that. I haven’t. So
08:28
it’s the International Academy of oral on medical toxicology. They’re probably more dentists than anything else. But we do have quite a number of PhDs the research guys doing the research on a, you know, Mercury and fluoride and that type of thing. Dr. Mercola is coming to our meeting. They’re the first of March 3 and fourth of March and so we’re excited to hear him and several others, it’s usually a really good meeting. So that’s something that any of you could join and a lot of there’s also the IBM and as the Academy of oh, man, I remember exactly what it is, but it’s a similar group and we join the meetings usually at least once a year, and that group tends to have more physicians and less dentists but whatever, join it, we have better meetings. So just a plug for that. The first of all, I don’t know how much information or experience all your group has with biological dentistry. Some of you may know what some of you may know, very little. There’s a it’s a niche of dentistry. There’s not a lot of us. We’re hoping to grow that we’re always trying to teach new doctors. We provide a scholarship program to dental students that are in dental school to come to this mean. And so there’s, you know, sometimes six or eight or 10 students that come to this meeting, so we’re starting to grow our ranks I think we’re up to about 1300 now around the world. So anyway, that’s a great meal and there’s a lot of information on the site for patients or professionals. And anything you want to look up about mercury or fluoride or anything like that, then you can usually find it on this website and has some great information to show your patients.
10:34
Let me show my PowerPoint here.
10:48
And I can never remember how to turn this on to the main screen.
Bill Clearfield 10:52
Yeah, that’s it. Oh, there go to the beginning. Here
10:56
from the beginning. There we go. Oh, help. Me just a quick rundown on what biological dentistry is. And kind of what we think and I want to leave plenty of time for questions or comments or concerns is just the alternative approach to dentistry. So it’s like what you guys do but for dentistry. We know that the oral health is connected to your overall health and many of you have probably seen this two Thorgan chart. Let’s see that one doesn’t look very good. Let me see if I can pull up another one here that you can see better
11:48
got to have enough All right. This one should
12:07
be a little more clear. So hopefully you have all seen this before. If you haven’t, this is looking at Chinese medicine. This is the connection between all the different body parts in the teeth. So a lot of my patients come to me from a naturopathic doctor do chiropractors to say this patient has a liver issue or this patient has got a heart issue and look specifically at these teeth that are attached to that. So you can see the connection between all the teeth. Many of you probably heard of the Paracelsus clinic in Switzerland. They went back a while back and looked at about 20 years of their patients and 98% of their breast cancer patients had a root canal on the tooth associated the breast on the same side as the initial tumor. So there seems to be a pretty good connection. And we’ve seen that over and over in our clinic. So that’s that’s one of the things that we’ll talk about or the connection with root canals. Kinda like most dentists, they’re familiar with the connection with gum disease and heart disease. And that’s something that about any traditional dentists will talk about and tell you. One thing that we’ve discovered is if we can really boost their d3, then most people’s gum disease will go away without having to have all the deep cleanings and all of the, you know, years of slowly losing bone around your teeth and the connections to the heart disease. So it’s a simple thing. But if we can get their d3 Way up and we see great results. We like to have them over 60 on their 60,000 on their d3 before we do surgery, and then we don’t have failures with implants or we don’t the people heal well. And we’ve all seen some of the research with the COVID that it’s the people that are low on d3 are the ones that get sick with COVID. Selection information about that you guys probably know more about that than I do. There are a couple of books that you can find out more about the root canal connection. Dr. Weston Price years ago went back and isolated. It was a really abbreviated version of what he did, but He isolated the bacteria from root canal teeth and injected them into rabbits and whatever the patient had that had that root canal heart disease. Or whatever. Most of the rabbits got that but some of them got something else but they all got sick. And so he finally isolated it down to the bacteria that are in these root canal teeth. I mean jump out here and show you what we’re talking about that this is a connection or a test. A lot of times when we extract a root penalty for clean out cavitation areas, we will send a sample into this DNA connections lab and say what’s what’s in this and blow this up little see can see it but this is a root canal tooth we took out recently on the lady and there’s 27 different strains of bacteria in there. You can see that most of them are in the red. That’s quite a load on the immune system from one tooth. If that tooth is on for example, the stomach or breast meridian, then a lot of times we will see a decrease in the body’s ability to fight back of whatever their issue is because it’s fighting such a battle in this area with the bacteria. These bacteria like to get out into the system and land hearts the the big place. Every new patient we have gets this book by Dr. Levy’s a cardiologist he’s actually lectured on our media and then a few weeks also called the hidden epidemic. If you haven’t seen this or read this, this is one you need to get. And he talks about how these hidden neural infections caused most heart attacks and breast cancers and goes through for one thing the necessity of getting a comb beam 3d X ray. We take these on every patient. I have patients mail them or email them to me from all over the world to read their X rays, because their dentist or their biological dentist in many cases, tell them they’re fine. They don’t have any problems and we find infections around root canals or cavitations. I just wanted one of the biggest things. So
Bill Clearfield 16:42
just just to interject, Dr. Levy will be at our conference. Oh, great. He’s on Saturday afternoon.
16:50
He’s really easy fun to listen to. He does a great lecture. One of the big things that he covers in this book are the root canals and then he goes into weaving pretty much all root canals are bad. Now, we have to be a little bit careful about what we say but that’s kind of going away. There’s also so here this toxic tooth is another great book, root canal cover up Dr. minik was the head of the endodontic Association spent his whole career teaching root canals to dentists on weekends. And about the time he went to recover, he found Western prices work and looked into all the data that’s out there and showed Wow, I’d been killing people my whole career or at least not doing them any good. And so he wrote this book root canal cover up and that’s a great one the price pottenger Foundation has access to a lot of this work as well.
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Go
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What do you do about a tooth that needs a root canal or has a root canal? The alternatives are number one for us as extraction. We recommend every patient they removed the root penalty. Many times since we’ve started using the 3d X rays we see a hidden infection behind the root or somewhere that’s been there for years and years and many times there’s no pain. So a Dr. Levy called his book hidden epidemic. Many times there’s no signs or symptoms, no pain to feels fine, but it’s got this great big infection. I’ll go through a little bit here later on a CT scan of a case I just did today and show you what kinds of things we see on people that oftentimes have no symptoms except their autoimmune disorder or their or their cancer, that sort of thing. What we used to replace the root canals used to just be titanium implants. Now we’re really turning the corner and saying let’s stay away from any metal in the mouth. So if it’s dead, like a root canal tooth, or it’s metal, so anything metal or dead doesn’t belong in your head. Any metal fillings, one that most people don’t think of are porcelain fused to metal crowns. So you look in your mouth and you see a white tooth you think you have a porcelain crown, but underneath that is a hidden layer of metal. And underneath that metal oftentimes as a Mercury filling. Well those different metals a lot of times they have a lot of nickel in them as well. But there’s different levels connecting with each other creates a galvanic reaction that’s kind of like walking around with your tongue on a nine volt battery all the time. And you can actually measure a lot of these little voltmeter just from Radio Shack or wherever. And so that’s always interesting. People are just walking around electrified in our heads. One thing that we’ve discovered recently is these titanium implants make a really good antenna for your cell phone, but they’re not very good for you and the clinic that I’ve been going to for training in Switzerland, Dr. Boles and Dr. Klinghardt. They’re showing that the bone around these titanium implants heat up about five degrees Celsius when you’re on your phone. So you literally click the bone around these old titanium implants. And we’re starting to see about 10 million titanium implants fail in patients mouths right now. And the dentists are just at a loss as to why they’re losing all these implants after sometimes 1520 years. So all of the Wi Fi signals, the 4g 5g, all these different things that we’re doing to ourselves now are having a huge effect. One study done on Iran several years ago, they took a bunch of young women and they gave them all several mercury fillings. And then they gave him a cell phone and they tracked how much mercury came off these mercury fillings because they’re always off gassing Mercury they never stopped. And it was about 80 times more mercury release. Now that was done before 4g and 5g towers, so you can imagine what they’re at now. Bridges you can always use to replace these extracted teeth or partial dentures, but most of the time we’re doing these ceramic zirconia implants. It’s a totally neutral material. It doesn’t walk the meridian. The body has no response to it. It the tissue loves it, the gums are all really healthy around it. And in our clinic about 95% of the time, the same day we take the tooth out we put the ceramic implant in. We let it heal for four or five months and put the crown on it and you’ve got a new tooth.
21:40
It’s important when we clean out these extraction areas that they be done with some some protocols. What we do when we extract a tooth is we’ll use an ultrasonic appears on ultrasonic instruments and will diamond tips on it and we cleaned the entire all of the ligaments that attach the tooth to the bone. If you leave those ligaments behind the body thinks that something might still be there and it doesn’t fill in the space with the bone as good as it does if you take the ligaments out and they’re kind of like trampoline springs, teeth out a little bit of gift to him. So when you bite down on something hard, you’re clenching your teeth in your sleep at night, the people have a little bit of gift. And so those ligaments that attach the teeth to the bone have to be removed when the tooth is extracted after the ultrasonic then we use laser and so we use erbium lat YAG laser and it’s a technique that actually was designed for root canals. And so using this root canal setting it it kind of looks like boiling water and it makes little bubbles in the in the solution. And then the laser pops the bubble with the next polls and then that cavitation effect of the popping bubbles, shakes all of the junk out of the corners in the areas that we might have got not gotten mechanically. And so using the laser has been one of the biggest game changers for us. Then we go in with ozone we do high concentration ozone, and then we use platelet rich fibrin. All platelet rich fibrin is not the same and many doctors are still using PRP platelet rich protein for plasma protein. PRF is many many, many times more effective a lot more stem cells a lot more growth factors. It it’s something that if you’re familiar with some of these older techniques with the with the PRF or the pair f g, this these newer versions of the platelet rich fibrin are far more effective. It cuts pain and inflammation and swelling by 70 to 80%. I have patients that I take out seven or eight root canal teeth put an implant clean out wisdom tooth pockets and they don’t even take Tylenol after surgery. Those are usually eight to 10 hour surgeries. And people don’t even many of them don’t even take ibuprofen and Tylenol. The ones that do need something only take ibuprofen and Tylenol and it’s rare that they need like a narcotic. If you’re going to have a root canal done, there is some good research. We have a biological dentist who’s a root canal specialist in Beverly Hills. Val Kanter teaches at USC she’s done a lot of work with this laser and showing that she thinks some root canals can be done clean enough that they’re not making people sick. I think the jury’s still out on that a little bit. But if you’re going to save a tooth, at least have the root canal done with the laser and ozone and then there’s a new gentle wave that’s a rinsing technique and that has to be filled with bio ceramic cement. So there’s there’s a protocol that that should happen. And those root canals do much better than the old traditional ones that most dentists are still doing. Now cavitation This is my favorite one. This was the main thing I wanted to talk to you guys about. A lot of doctors don’t even know what cavitations are focal osteonecrosis their areas of dead bone. So wherever these teeth have been extracted, these old root canal teeth if they weren’t cleaned out properly and all those bacteria cleaned out, then many times they will leave a dead spot in the bone. There which for most of us the teeth we’ve had extracted or wisdom teeth because of the shrinking of our jobs because of our softer diets and sugars and the things that doctor that Weston Price showed us years ago. Most of us have to have our wisdom teeth out, but if they’re not taken out using those techniques, then in the cadaver studies that they’ve done looking at several 1000 cadavers, there’s 85 or 90% of them have cavitations now with the cell phone signals and the things that we’re seeing and nutrition being so poor, and so many of these late teens early 20s kids I think it’s higher than that on at the clinic in Switzerland, they just automatically clean out all four if you’ve ever had a wisdom tooth taken out, you’re going to get a cavitation surgery and that’s kind of Dr clean hearts way.
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The way we find these cavitations are the Columbia metric. I always double check him with kinesiology as well and backup and it’s nice to show the patients using muscle testing. Just to have them put a finger right on that wisdom to area in the muscle test them. And you you’ll you’ll see what happens same thing with a root canal or mercury fillings. If you want just a really good explanation of what’s happening to their meridian system, then that’s something that we do with a lot of our new patients. These cavitation sites have a huge correlation to Lyme disease. A lot of lineman and mold and these types of things. A lot of the mercury traps in these areas as well. It’s kind of like a dead end like an eddy in the current of the stream. If you think of the waterfall and back in the corner, draw the sticks that build up. That seems to be what happens in these listen to various there’s this huge like the counselor but but scientific name is FDO J That’s osteonecrosis of the jaw. Fatty Fatty degenerative osteonecrosis of the jaw. Bone, or as the lysis of the job. There’s a huge degeneration of the adipocytes, but you don’t see the typical leukocytes you don’t see a lot of white blood cells. So patients will say how can I have these infections in my mouth? I just had my bloodwork done, and you know I don’t show anything on my bloodwork. But we go in and do these DNA tests and show all these bacteria in the area. They have very poor circulation. The this can’t get out into the system as well, which in some cases is good. There’s super high levels of this pro inflammatory ranty CCL five and we’re gonna talk more about that in a second too. That’s a that’s a great one. There’s an absence of acute cytokines so we don’t see like you would expect with an infection just inflammation and the acute cytokines. Let’s why do we think they’re painless, and why they hide out for so long? The average does this Randy’s protein CCL five. A couple of years ago we looked up how many papers have been written on this just looked up on Google Scholar. And there have been over 60,000 papers at that point had been written on this on this ranty CCL five, the normal level and job owns 150. In these cavitation sites. We typically see it over 5000 and in quite a few of the breast cancer patients we see it over seven paths. So just fuge expression li these are in these papers on Google Scholar with this grantees. They’ve connected it to just about everything about every Cancer, rheumatoid arthritis the MS Parkinson’s, allergies, food allergies, all all kinds of things. And so it seems to be kind of like the blinking red light that wherever it gets out into the system and lands is where the patient will end up having issues. Dr. Levy talks about the link to tonsils and all these chronic infections in the head draining down into the tonsils and seeing chronically infected tonsils, C reactive proteins elevated bacterial infections and way distant sites and not just the heart. But when you do pathology reports when they take the when they change like the stents in coronary arteries and do pathology on him. Many times Bill’s show oral bacteria is the main source of the bacteria that are filling up the stents. And how we fix the cavitations is the same way I just explained cleaning out an extracted tooth we open them up with the ultrasonic, we laser Azzam I use my high dose of multiple Homeopathics we do the PRF we do procaine on on every site. We put them on a detox protocol and have them take a bunch of supplements and really boost there be three going back to the to thorny chart, the cavitation the wisdom teeth side are all on the heart meridian. Let’s jump back to that really quick because that’s a
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good one to see this
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bar appear my way and I can’t see my stuff. So if you look at the wisdom teeth, the 132 1617 Besides being on the heart meridian, blow this up a little bit. You can see it there also on inner ear. So a lot of the ringing in the ears and the and the imbalances and veneers and things like that. shoulder and elbow. I’ve had half a dozen patients that had like a frozen shoulder couldn’t lift their arm up, you know, past here, and we’ll take some procane and we’ll inject it over the cavitation side on that area. And for three or four days and usually within five minutes. They’ve got full range of motion. After three or four days the protein wears off, and it goes back to normal but that’s just a sign to show the patient. This cavitation may be one of the things that’s affecting your shoulder. I’ve seen knees and ankles and all kinds of things that we clean these infections out of the mouth and they’re their pains. Go away. So that that’s interesting. The central nervous system psyche is lameness meridian. And so sense of well being a lot of the anxiety and depression and those types of things. We’ve seen a lot of patients that see huge improvements after cleaning these out. energy metabolism, chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia type stuff, and peripheral nerve pain. Again, that beaten hands and shoulder and elbow, and each tooth has its Meridian that’s attached to things. The molars are usually the ones that have the root canals most often. So we usually we’ll see digestive issues we’ll see, you know, irritable bowel symptoms. Analog cancer. We just had a patient recently that was a toll to his terminal. There’s nothing they could do for she’s doing hyperthermia. She’s doing several other things but we took out all her root canals cleaned out her cavitations and six weeks later, she came back and said guess what, my tumors are gone. So we’ve had quite a few of those, that once you get the interferences out of the way and give the immune system a chance to turn back on. Then the body knows what to do and it fixes whatever else is going on.
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This is an example of a picture of this cavitation oil. See I’ve got it on. Another one we can blow up here. This is during surgery. We open up the wisdom tooth area. It starts bleeding and we hit it with the ultrasonic and these huge drops of oil come out of the jawbone. It looks like butter that’s been in the microwave is how I can best explain it. So this just degeneration of the article sites and the job is just for oil in these areas. When we look on the X ray, they just look like really soft bone. And so having the software to read the comb beam and read the bone densities is really critical to finding these. And that’s why we find so many more than many of the other biological dentists. They don’t have the right combien system. They’re just kind of guessing and they can’t really read bone density is which is to date our best way of finding these
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this is a picture of the cavitation I’ll get back to a better one of that too. Sorry to see him on the slides. Sometimes so this is a lower jaw bone and a cadaver. This is the wisdom teeth area. And you can see the big spaces in there. All these spaces are full of this oil. When we open them up, it looks like jello or it looks like some just really soft just adipose tissue just looks like fat. And then as soon as we hit it with the ultrasonic it just turns into that oil that we were just showing you. This is the mandibular nerve down here. All this bacteria draining down through the jaw eats away the myelin sheath on the nerve. And some of these patients will have my trigeminal neuralgia or they’ll have these crazy face pains that no one can diagnose. And many times it’s because they got bare wires on the nerve because this myelin sheath has been disintegrated. The downside of that is when we do surgery and we’re doing laser and ozone and all these things in here, that occasionally that nerve will be damaged and the patient will have a little bit of numbness in their lip that last usually a few weeks, occasionally last a couple of months. It is possible that it will be permanent and they won’t get all the feeling back in their lip. But we haven’t seen that yet. Luckily so that good example of what we’re looking for for these cavitation sites. Here’s another picture a bunch of little shots of the surgery the opening window back here where we have opened up that cavitation site. As it comes out. You can see the shiny with the light that’s all just the oil coming out to the surface, these big drops of oil. Sometimes they smell really bad. We’ve had them and that those are usually cancer patients where we open that cavitation site and it stinks up the whole room. It’s just broaden the top window of bone when we open that little window of bone. We’ll usually save that and use that for our pathologies or take photos and say for our records. This is what it looks like underneath. This is that fatty stuff that’s stuck underneath that top layer of bone around many of these titanium implants because titanium doesn’t heal completely with real bone regenerating around it. It creates basically an inflammatory reaction in the bone and it heals look like scar tissue of bone and because many of these are put in cavitation sites where teeth were extracted, we see huge levels of the cavitation area and this rant is protein around TNF alpha as well around these
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implants titanium implants.
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There is there’s a new there used to be called a cat attack here in the US that we could find these cavitation sites using ultrasound it got shut down basically. And one of those things that actually worked so they shut it down. They’ve got a new one coming out of Germany Cabot towel that does the same thing. And we hope to have that soon. They’ve been saying next year for a few years now. But COVID kind of set that back. Here’s what that looks like. It’s just ultrasound readings. And wherever there’s the red or the orange is where they’re soft spots in the bone. So we’ll have a way that we can follow up or that we can verify what we see on the X rays or that we can find these even without radiation with the X ray or digital X rays have much lower radiation than anything we’ve had in the past and my machine went all the words for the lowest radiation but there is some radiation. We always keep Homeopathics rednecks and things like that. So if we have a patient that’s sensitive to EMFs and radiation after taking x rays and we give them Homeopathics and that’s something that you guys can do to help prepare your patients. Real quick one of the big ones you probably already know a lot about Mercury dental amalgams. It’s the most poisonous, naturally occurring non radioactive substance on Earth. The only thing worse for humans than Mercury is radiation. Last year for the first time, the FDA recommended that kind of the dentist stop using these in the US what they recommended was for children, pregnant women or immune compromised that they don’t use the matrix signs that many other countries have been saying that for a long time, but for the first time, they’re starting to say that in the US. They did a big study on the mercury more than 10 years ago. It didn’t look good and so they hid all the data and it disappeared and they never published on it and most dentists never saw the information. But we know it contributes to at least 100 health issues, heart disease, autism, chronic fatigue, Ms. All of the things that you guys know when we take out mercury fillings, there’s a protocol that the iomt teaches called the Smart protocol. They have to be isolated. You need to put them on oxygen. And this is something that you guys might give me some feedback. Dr. Klinghardt saying that when we put them on oxygen it it could open up the blood brain barrier. So that any vapors that they do possibly inhale through the mouth or whatever, but it might get to the brain easier. And so the protocol is oxygen but he’s kind of arguing with that and, and so some dentists are switching to using room air or hanging a hose out the window and having them just try to breathe outside air with removing mercury fillings. So there’s some work being done on that right now. I know quite several dentists do that to retire from dentistry because their mercury exposure gets so high that they get tremors and can’t work shaky dentists are not good. And so that’s that’s something that many dentists aren’t even aware of protecting themselves. study in Canada a few years showed that the wrist right above our gloves is where dentists are building up massive Mercury it’s soaking all of this mercury in through the wrist. And so wearing gowns when we take out Mercury we have a big vapor looks like a big elephant nose that we use for removing the vapor roller drilling then afterwards there’s there’s vitamin C, chlorella, cilantro vitamin C zeolite. There’s several good things and we tried to get them back to their functional medicine doctor or working with them before they come in. And so they’ve got a more long term detox for their mercury than what we give them because it really can take years to get the mercury out of the system once we’ve gotten rid of the source. It’s not a month detox and you’re good or a few IV collations and you’re good that just doesn’t work. get mercury out of the brain. Had a patient a while back had a mouthful of mercury fillings. Yeah, just about every tooth full of mercury. We took them all out and within a couple of weeks within a week is severe IBS for 15 years was gone. That’s just one example of many, many. There’s a great video on this University of Calgary where they showed how the mercury affects the neurons and things like that. And so that’s that’s a really good one to look at.
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Fluoride, there’s a couple of big studies have come out in the last few years wanting Canada and want to Mexico showing that children that are getting fluoride have a decrease in IQ and sometimes it’s significant. And so giving kids or pregnant women fluoride supplements is a direct decrease in IQ on kids couple of really big studies. We know it contributes to bone cancers, dementia, fertility, it makes people really passive fluoride is one of the things that that Hitler used in the concentration camps to keep the prisoners passive heart attacks. It’s just there’s nothing good about fluoride. It’s the whole there’s some great books about fluoride. So many years and years of misinformation about fluoride that most dentists believe and when researchers professors speak out against it, they’ve been chased out of their universities. They’ve been shut down. Just what we’re seeing now about everything about COVID So there are some good books about that. But let me see fluoride gate when came out. Dr. Kennedy did this few years ago. Maybe you guys have heard from him in the past. There are some good resources out there. Some good books about fluoride. Anyway, Dr. Tennant lectures often other meetings as well, and he talks about how much most chronic disease begins with an emotional event and he talks about how trapped emotions in teeth can block them right and it caused the teeth to start to have issues which could end up with a dead tooth or a root canal or something. And so we’re starting to see that even you know, some of these things like energy work and energy medicine can have a positive effect on some of these patients. Where it is it’s blocking the meridians and in some way, so it’s a good book by Eileen McKusick tune in the human biofield plasma about that, but anyway, these are some other things that we’ve run into let me jump out of this email real quick and
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get to this other one. I can find it now. Let’s do this. Let’s open it up again.
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So that Johan like Laettner is runs a program in in Germany. And over there, they they have a program where you get your MD and your dental degree at the same time. I think it’s a six year program, and you come out as a specialist in biological dentistry and medicine. Working with all of the things that we’ve talked about. He’s probably done the most research of anyone on this ranch, he’s chemokine. If any of you want this whole set of slides from me so I could share with anybody I wanted. And we came a couple years ago to our ion team meeting. And a lot of that stuff that we talked about and some of those pictures we’ve gotten. I got from him. He’s in Munich, Germany. A lot more of the science on how this Randy’s plote protein works and we won’t go into all that now. These cavitation sites a lot of times will not just stay on that tooth or the wisdom to theory but because of the kind of spongy nature of the bone and the imaginary bone it will spread through the job arm and sometimes we’ll have a lot of job on infected. Now we can’t just go in and do surgery around the roots of all these teeth like we do in the wisdom to theories, or we kill all these other teeth and then have a bigger problem. So what we do a lot in my clinic is we use an Nd YAG laser and we do biostimulation with a laser that penetrates through the bone and we’ll break up some of the bacteria to stimulate circulation and healing in that area. We’ve probably done about 500 cases that way and I’ve had really good luck on some of these areas that we can’t do surgery on he’s got some other good pictures and slides of the oil cysts and things like that that we talked about. These are the cytokines the other than the interleukins and FGF. Two are also really high in these cavitation sites. But obviously that Randy’s protein is the is the bad guy.
Bill Clearfield 47:08
My mouse just
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stopped working sorry guys, I just lost my mouse for some reason. The time for questions.
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That was pretty much what I added in covers the majority of it I do want to show you the Comey metrics and how we look at those
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get a mouse work
Bill Clearfield 47:47
okay, in the meantime, if anybody has any questions, comments, can either put it in the chat or as Dr. Chandler
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I see those on the chat see if I can grab another mouse here real quick. Got an old school plugin mouse we can throw on here.
Bill Clearfield 48:07
A question from Dr. Southern. What are your thoughts on oil pulling?
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It can be really effective for gum health when you’ve got the you know, inflammation in the gums periodontal disease. I’ve seen it do really well. The problem is it takes about 20 minutes each time to really get the effect. Now I’ve seen some work with people using wheatgrass and doing the same thing in about five minutes with wheatgrass. And so that’s something that some of our patients have had really good luck with.
Bill Clearfield 48:38
How about coconut oil and Tumeric or something like that?
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Yeah, using using those outputs of oil pulling. What’s the really nasty taste in one for dental infections? I’m gonna blank there’s a there’s a powder and an oil that that just is miserable, nasty tasting. That is great to put over a dental infection. We use a lot of mud packs we’ll use like a zeal, volcanic ash and a bentonite clay and some fermented grains and we’ll mix them to modpack. Then the patient we can’t get to right away and they’ll put that right over the infection and they do it three or four times a day for a couple of days and then we’ll just knock that infection out temporarily.
Bill Clearfield 49:26
I’m Dr. Gerber instant do most labs do the ranty CCL five cytokine
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no i i don’t know
Bill Clearfield 49:37
if you measure that or not?
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Well, I just left her I don’t. I just lecture I thought it took this really high end lab work to do that stuff. But I just lectured with Rafael Gonzalez, the stem cell guy out of LA and he’s got a clinic down in Mexico that’s just amazing for stem cell work and he’s had a few that the FDA is letting do here on late stage COVID patients COVID Bad patients, but they’re about 80% Get them out of the hospital with his liners stem cells. He’s done a lot of work with exosomes, and he told me that there is like a really simple test and I haven’t gotten the information back from him on what it is I was just a few days ago, where it’s really simple to measure that. It’s like a litmus paper test or something that it’s easy to do or a blood poke. We’ve got a finger Poke d3 test. That’s not as accurate as bloodwork but it’s pretty close. So that’s the way we check our d3 on patients before we do surgery. On it similar to that as what he explained.
Bill Clearfield 50:48
Dr. Stock as many of the CBC T’s I don’t even know not sure what does it I would have come back with equivocal results. I’ve had dental thermograms that have found inflamed teeth with the patient improvement after removal. What is your experience with thermograms to identify problematic teeth, either from the root canals or fillings or improper tooth extractions?
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Yes, the thermal imaging is great. I had it done on my wife. I have a lot of patients that do it. Bring their their thermal imaging and there’s been some really good connections between the inflammation in the job over the teeth and the inflammation in the breast and they’ll see the hot spots on the same side. We love to see the thermal imaging we’ve used it a good bit if you can find someone to read it that knows how to read it. Those are fed to us I think just retired. But the thermal imaging is great.
Bill Clearfield 51:40
That was an earlier question that I missed who doesn’t reach these imaging studies. And
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you know I do there’s a reader service called beam readers probably is they’re not biological dentist per se and they’re not looking specifically for cavitations and because it’s so normal to have soft spots in these wisdom tooth areas. Like my one of my neighbors is a dental radiologist and he doesn’t think anything of them. He felt they’re just normal. Everybody has those that’s just a soft area bone. Well, we know we go in there, they’re all full of oil and bacteria and the patients two days later have this 20 year ailment. We’ve had like five patients in the last year that they’re all their thyroid issues are gone as soon as we clean out these cavitations and take out a root canal at 20 years thyroid medications over but a lot of the traditional radiologists don’t believe that they’re not very many of us that read them. Let me show you one of these real quick this is we’ll go to one hold on. So ignore the names here.
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Down here
Bill Clearfield 53:08
that’s supposed to be last names
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well that’s the case. We did today was like seven hours. infections in these teeth. This is the kind of but because most of your checkup X rays that the dentist taking every six months or a year only or looking between the teeth they don’t show the end of the root. And once every three years it’s it’s kind of scary to take a panorex x ray will the 2d panorex X ray many times doesn’t show these areas. They’re hidden because of the nature of the X ray. So this is the skull basically this is kind of a cartoon version. That helps patients see what we’re looking at me move somebody thing over here so I can run my software.
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So this fire
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this lady was a tooth we extracted today. This great big hole on her job was an infected root canal. It had eaten through into the sinus it’d be eaten out the side of the cortical plate at a huge cyst. The problem had been there for years and years and just recently started giving her a few symptoms. That’s normal as the mental frame and mandibular nerve. This down here you can see this hole in the bone in the wisdom teeth area is a cavitation site. Now back here behind this back tooth, there should be bone here and there is bone here if you look at the panorex or 2d X ray, but because it’s so soft, the software thinks it’s not bone in it took it out for this picture just looks like a big hole. That was a huge cavitation site. And same thing on the other side we get this upper wisdom tooth area. It looks like just a big hole like there’s nothing there. Like this bone is gone. Little ram of bone is all fluor one same thing holes in the job room where these just rotting spots were in this cavitation so we’ll look from a different angle look from the front first. So as we look at these from the front, you can see sinuses so we see this infection in the sinus as I kind of scroll through that. Can see a good portion of her sinus here full of this chronic infection because of all these infected root canal tea.
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This one
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is this big bubble is the abscess that had eaten away all of this perforated into the sinus some big holes into the sinus from that root. Dark and that a little bit
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a little easier for you to see. There we go.
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But unfortunately this kind of stuff gets missed every day. The other route on that molar into the sinus. This is the breast tooth. This is the one that causes stomach and breast meridian. We go back into the cavitation site and the wisdom to bury it and go dark it is inside there. Dunn’s bottom right hand corner the bone density reading. So this is the important part. This is the part that many of the dental software’s called beam software doesn’t have the method to read these or it’s like an average of the whole area. But when I put my mouse right on that I’ve got a negative 350 Hounsfield units. That’s the bone density reading. You look at the cortical plate at 1500. You get into the maxillary bone normal 300 400 200 I mean that’s normal bone, you go to negative 300 And that’s going to be a massive cavitation and so that’s how I find them. And then we went and cleaned them out will usually look from the side is where we look. We can diagnose airway issues. We do a lot of work with sleep apnea patients. She’s got a really restricted airway. That’s that’s something that we look for tonsil stones. We see tonsil stones all the time. We clean out all this junk in their head. I hit him with the laser a couple of times and these tonsils that were just gigantic and three or four months shrink back to where you can barely see him. I used to send all these patients to get their tonsils out. And I disagreed with my natural past that said they’re important are part of the immune system. I just argued they were overwhelmed from chronic infection and they needed to come out. And I’ve sent a lot of adults over the years to get their tonsils out and they felt great afterwards. But now we’ve learned that with ozone injections and using these lasers and getting infections out upstream, then these tonsils are clear right up. This is a picture from the side of that bubble into the end of the sinus. This is that wisdom tooth area with all this dark bones decapitation area, or negative 200 in that area. So that’s that’s kind of how I go through and look at X rays. Here’s the other big infection on that premolar perforated out the buccal plate bones gone out there. But this side had a really big cavitation this one’s just gigantic and a lot of space in there. And we got so much oil out of that thing. So that’s how we that’s how we find them. Well this usually dagen mouse as much as we can see what the comb beam and then they fly out for surgery and we clean all this out and one day they stay about a week and do a postdoc I don’t like them to fly for at least four or five days. And then then five months, usually four to four to six months they’ll come back and finish the implants. And so for most people, it’s two trips to get all this done. Alright. Any more questions, comments, concerns? Things I didn’t go over or like death questions about I was eating.
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I have one big question because I’ve been hearing from wiseguys and biologic dentistry for about 30 to 40 years. And then my biggest question is always, where can we find people with this kind of talent to send their patients? That’s right now the nearest biologic dentist is two hours from my office.
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About 50% of my patients come from out of state. I’m from Hawaii and Canada and Australia and Europe. And so there’s not many that I mean, there’s like 1300 in our group and not about 800 of those probably are dentists. That I on T website. You can search on there and dentists that are members, you can find it however, you can get on that just by joining the organization going to one meeting. So there’s dentists that have been practicing 20 years as a biological dentist and are great but only show up as one or two meetings and and then there’s ones that are on there that have been three or four means but are still placing titanium implants. And so it’s such a range of biological dentists and I was there. When I first started doing this, Dr. Mark Lafferty the chiropractor down here, got me into this. And I started just digging out mercury fillings safely. And I was still doing mostly titanium implants. And then once I learned how bad those were, now we take them out instead of putting them in. But it took me seven or eight years of of only doing biological dentistry before I got to the point of doing these cavitation surgeries and extraction implants in the same day. So there’s not many that do that. I think the fine one has been the Dr. Voles clinic in Switzerland with Dr. Klinghardt and Dr. Balls, and they usually do these surgeries pretty well. They’re just not very many of us. So iomt
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You guys are still very rare.
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Unfortunately, and most of my patients have been seeing a biological dentist for a long time. And they’ve been told two or three times that they don’t have cavitations pretty because they’re using the wrong software. And then they send me the X ray. I had a dentist from Florida he told me that he was a cavitation hound that he was one of the best biological dentists anywhere that he knew how to find cavitations and this lady did not have them. And he had just put a titanium implant dinner as well. She was miserable, all kinds of autoimmune issues. I get her X rays. She’s got four of the biggest cavitations I’ve ever seen. He comes out for surgery we clean them out and they are what they look like on the X ray they were huge. So it is do the best you can. Can
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you give us some hope with the laser in the ozone though right that’s something
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this combination of lasers that we use. It’s a fatahna it’s out of Slovenia is really the best laser on the market for dentists. I think any biological dentist that’s doing these surgeries without the laser as well as the ozone because most of them are doing the ozone. But for us we’ve seen the game changer be the laser in addition and doing the the newer versions of the platelet rich fibrin are like 20 times more effective than the first generation. A lot of dentists are still doing the first generation or still using PRP.
Bill Clearfield 1:03:17
Dr. stocky states, he seen cases of composite fillings that were done many years ago when it was apparent common to place a mesh between the dentition and composite fillings that they became infected patients improve focal problems when address is this only his impression or others have seen this in Canada thermogram CB CT. Find these also.
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If they’ve gotten to the point of being infected than the former, then the thermogram will often show and then the Combi will often show it to CBC to show that is still a very valid technique that a lot of biological dentists use. It’s called biomimetic dentistry. And their claim is I’ve been trained in it. I just never completely bought into it. But some dentists are really good at it or instead of doing a crown, they’ll do a really big filling and put like a fiberglass mesh inside that adds some strength the tooth but just like any great big deep filling, they can still fail and get infected. If you’ve got a dentist that’s doing that technique, they’re usually a better one of the better dentists. They look funny on X rays, they look like they have cavities around them because of the mesh leaves the space. And so you go to another dentist and he’s gonna tell you oh, this has a cavity under it and he’ll drill in there and take it out. So it’s kind of a it’s a great technique, but it does have its downsides.
Bill Clearfield 1:04:44
A sense of the relative positive or negative predictive values of thermogram and CPC T CB CT
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with the Columbian find just about everything. Now, sometimes a tooth will be mostly dead. So the meridian is almost completely turned off, but it’s not died to the point where it shows infection. No pain doesn’t give us any reason to do that. Dr. Klinghardt and Dr. Voles have worked on this quite a bit and found that a lot of these old teeth that have had a lot of work done on them, big fillings, crowns, things like that. Have just decreased the Meridian to the point that it’s barely functioning through these teeth. And so, Dr. Voles actually had several of his own teeth removed and implants put in and then showed how much it improved the function of his meridians. By doing that, that’s pretty extreme dress in the US to say, Hey, if you got big fillings take your teeth out and do implants. But they’ve got some pretty hard data showing that that could be helpful for some patients. I do muscle testing, so I test a lot of them. And you know, everybody knows that’s not an exact science but it just is one more thing to look at that adds to what I’m seeing on the X ray. The thermal imaging can be great for finding these hotspots that don’t even show up on the picture.
Bill Clearfield 1:06:08
Dr. Cruz says she said several patients as patients with severe tooth decay and they have their teeth pulled out due to lack of insurance or funds is that an option? Was there more underlying disease that’s not being addressed?
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Yes, that’s that’s better than having these old infected teeth in there. So and a lot of the old how Huggins was kind of the godfather of biological dentistry, and he taught that it was against even ceramic implants he didn’t like that just take the tooth out in partial dentures or live without teeth. That that’s the best way. Dr. Holes and Dr. Klinghardt have shown that having a ceramic implant in the meridian activating the bone actually improves the function of the meridian and it works better if we put something back in and so that’s kind of dispelling some of those older theories that some of these old biological dentists say don’t do any implants even if they’re porcelain. So we disagree. We think they were better with porcelain implants.
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Hope that answered the
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question there. Most of it.
Bill Clearfield 1:07:10
And Dr. Stock is what software should be looking for in our CB CT scans.
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The one that I uses is Romax by planmeca. That’s that’s what my scanner is is a titan Mac. I think it’s the best machine. Many of the scanners out there can be saved in a standard DICOM format. So the file extension is dot DCM DICOM is kind of a generic language of of dental comm beams. However Sirona which is probably the biggest company, Galileo’s and Serrana are don’t use that they use their own proprietary which does not import into any of the other softwares and they can save it in DICOM if they know how to do it, but none of the dentists that use it know how and so I get about one in three that send me a Serrana scan is able to get their dentists to resave it in the right format so that I can look at it. So that’s one of our biggest challenges and having them sent from other people.
Bill Clearfield 1:08:16
And that’s all the questions I have in the chat anybody else? Questions, comments? Going once, going twice, Dr. Chandler, we can’t thank you enough for your time and your expertise. And, you know, this is something that most I think most of most of the folks in our group have a little bit of knowledge about, but not not a whole lot. And so we thank you for bringing it bring it to our bring it to the table here. Anything else that you have any comments you have any any follow ups any
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anybody has any questions you’re welcome to reach out to me or concerns with the patient or anything.
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Can you please put your contact information up in the
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in the chat here. Thank you. That’ll help. I do have a partner here. Dr. Geddes. He’s a 15 year practicing dentists converted a few years ago to biological dentistry. He’s a great surgeon. He’s doing all the same things. I am with these with these surgeries. I was just getting the word it took three or four months for a patient to get in to see me and that’s always uncomfortable.
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Now I asked another quick question is do you know of any relationship between the length of the incisors and relationship to Alzheimer’s?
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No, mi kids relationship with mercury.
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I’m sorry, that was
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I said there’s a huge relationship with mercury fillings. Yes. Know that for a long time. You know, here’s the website and then you can
Bill Clearfield 1:10:17
give it to John right. Whatever else I can get him there to go down but an email I’ll give you that
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Okay, here we go.
Bill Clearfield 1:11:00
All right. You got a lot a lot. A lot of kudos for you here from the from the gallery. Thank you, Dr. Chandler. So thank you all so much. Again, his information is right here. And he is the date again. We can’t thank you enough for spending some time with us. Hopefully we’ll in the future get to see you again. Don’t be a stranger. And if you have anything anything else to share with us, please let us know. As far as next week, we have use of Erskine who has his has a program for physician burnout and he’s running a actually a three session to online one in in, in person 15 CME credit AOA, our workshop on physician burnout and he’s going to give us an insight on that next week. Again, our program March 25th to 27th in Las Vegas at the Flamingo hotel. The room rate changes on March 3, we have a really I mean it’s if you’ve been to hotel lately, we have a great room right we get Thursday, Friday and Saturday for less than $350 and that’s on the Strip. I mean, you can’t beat that. And if there’s some taxes in there too. We have you know, again an all star lineup Dr. Chandler mentioned we have Dr. Tom levy will be with us. And and you know some of the folks that are here of course will be with us. We’re looking again to do a another breakout room. So those of you who I haven’t gotten to yet, just Hang Hang tight. And we’re going to try and get everybody in who’s one of the you know, wanted to contribute if again, four, go to AO s r d.org/event. Click that. That’ll take us to the new What are your new website and you can register there. Please send the send the flyers or flyers to anybody you know your whole mailing list because we need we want to have a big we want to have a big turnout. And again, we have some very special guests. In addition to Dr. Nicola. We have Dr. Jacob Teitelbaum. Those of you have had any kind of interest in chronic fatigue syndrome know that name. Anybody who’s been to any of the a four m lectures knows Felice Gersh and Kathleen O’Neill Smith. Of course, Dr. aulassa will be bringing us his his latest on COVID and Dr. Speier also our patriarch will be giving us a rheumatology lecture and we also have Brittany Partain from IVs, which is a specialized rheumatology Laboratory, which will be explaining, you know, very intricate tests on auto immunity and, and all sorts of rural rural logical disorders. We also have, you know, out here in the West we have the state’s mandate, two hours of pain management and opioid Management. Dr. Les Gibbons will be doing that again for us. We have we have two hours actually of medical ethics. Dr. Cruz and Dr. Stock and Dr. Burgess and Joel Peterson will be doing our suicide so those are all the state mandated, mandated lectures. So you come to us and you don’t have to worry about it for the rest of the year. Or in California two years. We have a great lineup and as you know, we always have some some pretty nice entertainment afterwards. We’re really looking forward to getting together I hope I you know, we understand if you’re, you know, concerned about, you know, meeting in person, and we will have an online presence. And we also you know, really would like you to act to be live with us. If you can, from time to time we’re sending out some discounts on the tuition. So be on the lookout for those. And we have some very great sponsors that that the vendors that are that are coming and I’m sure David who just joined us is going to want to be there with us also right, David? Yeah, yeah, you got me. I hate to fly. That’s my challenge, but I’ll overcome it. Okay. All right. Well, we look forward to it. Dr. Chandler again, thank you so much. And if you can make it to Las Vegas at the end of March. We’d love to have you too.
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Oh, yeah.
Bill Clearfield 1:16:12
I’m trying to fly right now, David. Yeah, I’ve been trying to twist Makarov, ozone, but I don’t think I’m getting too far with him either. So again, next week. Use of Erskine we’ll be talking about physician burnout and and his program. Dr. Chandler. We can’t thank again. Thank you so much for being with us. If it’s okay with you, we’ve recorded the session and we have it on our website. LSR d.org/webinars. We have we have the event is for the conference. There’s that and a os rd. That org slash webinars is all of the love is is it’s dot org not jerk there. Sorry. Yes, Id that O RG slash webinars. I got it right that time. We have all of our webinars and apparently we’re starting to get a little following I’ve gotten a few phone calls from from lay people even have said they’ve been watching our you know our back lectures so you know that they’re not in vain. They can say Dr. Chandler, we’ve been doing these for a year and a half. You’re our first dental consultant but hopefully that won’t be the last
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question for the for the Las Vegas sim seminar. Um, if I sign up for to do it online and then later on, I can go in person. Can I just upgrade it? Yes, possible.
Bill Clearfield 1:17:59
Yes, absolutely. Thanks. Okay. Absolutely. We insist. Okay, anybody else have any any other questions or comments? If not, Dr. Chandler, thank you again so much. We will have the the the video of this up probably within 24 to 48 hours. And we’ll see you again next time. Same week. Next week, same time, same station, and everybody keep doing the good stuff. Okay. And we will see you again. Thank you. Thank you, John.