Tue, Jun 20, 2023 4:52PM • 2:54:24
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SPEAKERS
Bill Clearfield
00:41
Welcome
01:08
welcome
01:15
can’t hear you yet okay.
01:36
Can you hear me
02:36
thank you thank you
Bill Clearfield 02:37
both for coming. New names here we’re always happy to have new folks.
02:44
Michael your name seems familiar to me
02:54
anybody’s out there
03:00
Hi there. I’m Jackie I’m new. And thank you for letting me join.
Bill Clearfield 03:05
Anytime we we always like new faces so please we’re happy to have you. We’ve been doing this for more than two and a half years. We’re here every Tuesday night at this time and we try we get some really nice speakers and we get some really great information.
03:27
How do I get on the email list for the weeklies
Bill Clearfield 03:31
send me your email I will I will certainly get it to you want to put it if you put it in the chat and you send it to me. Everybody else doesn’t have to see it if you don’t want to want it to just send it to me
03:50
if I can just do you I don’t know how that works. I think it would go to all but I don’t mind.
Bill Clearfield 03:56
Well here. I’m going to send you a message.
04:00
Okay, all right.
Bill Clearfield 04:03
And I can send it back. I think if you send it back to me here Yes. Come to me. Okay. Okay. And other other folks here at new names if you’re interested. We like I said, We’re here every Tuesday night at this time. And we have some very nice speakers, if any, they are
04:33
familiar with any of the
Bill Clearfield 04:36
bigwigs in anti aging medicine, a four mm hmm gi FM, that we get them all here. And you don’t have to you don’t have to pay for it. Which is the nice thing so. And, Joe, I’m gonna make you go host Okay,
04:58
sounds good.
Bill Clearfield 05:02
Those of you don’t know this is Joel Peterson he’s the brains behind the snow snow not picking it up
05:20
see John’s I’m not see any NHL
05:35
I’m on top according to a quarter my thoughts
Bill Clearfield 05:38
Okay. All right. There we go. Okay, okay, so you got it too. Yeah. So we got a couple of new folks tonight, John. So so be gentle with them. Okay.
05:52
Yeah.
Bill Clearfield 05:56
Like I was explaining this as our we’ve been here for about two and a half years. We’re here every Tuesday night, although I’m going to take off 1/4 of July so
06:11
you’re all on your own then. That’s in two weeks. So and all of our
Bill Clearfield 06:21
programs are at aos, er d.org/webinar.
06:29
Put that on here. If you want any of the old ones,
Bill Clearfield 06:33
they’re all there. A lot of them have transcripts also.
06:39
And we’re awake for our speakers Dr. Dr. Campbell.
Bill Clearfield 06:51
So he’s one of the superstars in the peptide world. Ever get on his mailing list? I think he sends out two emails just about every day. And he’s really got it. Got it all nailed and together so should be very interesting. And he’s anxious to participate. So once he once he’s here, so what’s doing at the medical school, John? So those of you don’t know. John is in West Virginia and he’s intimately involved with a brand new osteopathic medical school that’s opening right near his front door. And let us let us know what’s going on with that, John, anything?
07:36
Yeah, the school opens to students in about two years, and they will be put on rotations in four years. The school has some very open minded, like minded people like us. But there’s no way they’re going to mention some of the things they we mentioned. Perhaps even the peptides, but we have practitioners and believers in homeopathy, but they’re not going to open their mouth about that, because I don’t think they would object to us being involved one way or the other. And the same way goes for acupuncture, herbal and nutritional. They’re very like minded and the academic dean is an osteopath, the family practice residency program directors and osteopath. They’re very familiar with things we do. But they don’t want to put their neck into a noose. And that’s good for us and I understand why they’re very willing to cooperate with us and that’s why we are considering things like similar conferences here on the East Coast that we’re doing on the west coast in Vegas with this organization. And you guys have done all the work but we might put one together sometime this year sooner than later. around Washington DC. And we can share the same thing we’re sharing here these meetings every week.
Bill Clearfield 09:04
Okay. We haven’t one line one. Well, I have to announce when we’re done but I see your speakers here so
09:12
Okay, so I was I was good, and we’ll keep it up and everybody at these meetings will gather email from us on what’s up what’s new. Okay.
09:20
Hey, guys, what’s going on everybody?
Bill Clearfield 09:22
Okay, so Jay, you’re here.
09:25
Let’s go on guys get good. Good evening. Nice to meet all of you guys through zoom.
Bill Clearfield 09:29
Okay, thank you. Thank you for being with us, Jay. I’m gonna let you introduce yourself. Anybody knows anything about taps peptides understands that. Notice this name Jay Campbell. We met briefly at a MMG and the amount of information that you put out is just incredible. I don’t know how you do it. Must have a staff of 100
09:51
I do. I don’t have I don’t have a huge staff. I have a decent sized out but I mean, truthfully, thank you. First off, I take those and receive and reflect them all back to you guys. And honestly, whenever I get a chance to present I’m very humbled, grateful, privileged to be here to give you guys the information. So I do want to get into the presentation because it’s 130 slides. I’m gonna go really really fast. So if there’s stuff that I don’t cover, or you guys don’t understand, or whatever, you know, my email will be in there and you guys can message me. And I do have a private membership group too. That’s relatively very affordable. That I do like I literally just came off of that it’s on Tuesday nights at 7pm Eastern it’s usually 90 minutes, but you know, I do amas which is again, ask me any things and there’s tons of people in there asking me questions. So if there’s something that I don’t cover, or I don’t answer the question in a way that you guys want, just feel free to reach out to me okay, I’ll
Bill Clearfield 10:42
send out two three emails every day that are detailed, so much information in it. And then there’s tick tock videos and YouTube videos. It’s unbelievable.
10:51
I mean, look, man before I became this, what I call myself an online gypsy people ask me like, What do you do? You know, my daughters, they’re like, Oh, my dad’s an online gypsy. I was in my quote unquote, wage slave life. I was an internet marketer. I worked in the digital automotive space, you know, making money for other people. I worked for Kelley Blue Book, I worked for admins. And I worked for autotrader. And I was like, advancing to the highest level. So I really learned how to market online way before most people understood it. And then when I became an entrepreneur, you know, I just took what I learned and obviously became really good at into that space. But as you said, Bill, it’s a you have to have you’re only as good as the people with you. You know what I mean? And I have like two copywriters that write all my emails and they’re absolutely amazing. And I’ve hand trained them since 2016. So then they know my voice, they know my audience and they write like me, you know, I always get final editorial say, but there’s some days I don’t get that I’m doing so much stuff. So it’s kinda like, Oh, God, I hope they don’t make any they don’t say anything crazy, but I appreciate what you said in there. You know? They do right. So amazing emails, there’s no doubt.
Bill Clearfield 12:02
So at some point, maybe you’ll tell us how you went from Kelley Blue Book to peptides. That’s a big leap.
12:08
So So yeah, so I mean, you know, for you guys that don’t know my backstory. You know, I kind of got into this space. Writing the first really scientifically accredited book on how to use therapeutic testosterone. And, you know, without getting into long story because I want to do the peptides presentation here in a second. You know, I was just blessed that I was an ex college and pro basketball player got kicked in the testicles at 29 playing in an adult men’s league. And it literally created some form of like type two hypogonadism you know, environmental and I literally was referred to my PPO doctor at the time because I was literally working in the automotive digital automotive space as a 29 year old guy, almost turning 30 to an endocrinologist and he read my labs and he saw that I had like, 180 you know, total testosterone and like a negligible free testosterone level and he said I could put you on therapeutic testosterone and have you right as rain you know, fast forward that story after being on for 12 weeks my life like transformed you know, all the dopamine and all the amazing feelings of it. And I was, you know, still only 30 year old guy he wanted to take me off and I’m like, taking me off to this like, so then like the next 10 years of my life. I just became the student. You know, I had a molecular biologic biology minor in college, so I was always kind of a science dork. But I just went deep, deep, deep with it. And in the same time that I was experimenting with therapeutic testosterone, I was also lucky enough to meet people that pushed me on to HIPAA morale and, and so like, I tell people, like in 2004, I started to use EPA morale and through a company in Texas called Southern Research Company, which was really the back office of a compound pharmacy, which some of you guys might know who is I won’t mention their name, but like they were selling, you know, out of the back office, it from Rhode Island to people who had access to it. So that’s when I started using peptides. And, you know, this was just like what I did in my free time when I wasn’t, you know, a white collared sales guy during the day. You know, and so I just like really learned all this stuff and had essentially a mastery of it. And so eventually, one of my friends was like, Dude, you gotta write books on this or write a book on the hormone stuff. And then that led me to meet guys like you and start going to the medical conferences and you know, subsequently now this will be so the book that’s coming out which you guys are all going to want to read. And I’m probably way less than a month away from sending it is definitely going to be my masterpiece book. It’s called 30 days to shreds, and it sounds like a bro science book, but it’s actually a very deep scientific dive into using GLP, one agonists and all the other various you know, growth hormone agonists of peptides to lose the most amount of body fat possible in 30 days or less, but doing it in the context of health and longevity. So it’s a very powerful book. I mean, I’ve been editing it for the last two weeks now and I can’t wait to release it to the world. It’s definitely going to be a book that’s going to help a lot of people because as you guys know, 80% of people are metabolically dysregulated I think out there in America today because of our environment contamination, but with all that said, gents, you guys ready? We’re ready. Alright, let me just find the actual lecture. I should have had that pulled up. See here.
15:12
All right there we go. Got it. Ready? Here we go. Ready? Okay. Let me share our screen here. Hopefully you guys can see this.
15:29
See, I have the ability you got me You gave it to me my so what do I need to do to share this? Let me see.
Bill Clearfield 15:38
Green thing there? Yeah, I think,
15:39
yep, I’m good now. Okay. All right. You guys see that?
Bill Clearfield 15:43
Yep, there we go. We got it. Okay.
15:46
So again, I’m gonna whip through this. This presentation is about two weeks old and I kind of updated it for you guys. So everything you desire to know about peptides, what are peptides again, you guys most of you guys know this stuff better than say, you know, an average lay crowd. So I’m not gonna go deep into the science but again, biological compounds two or more aminos produced, you know, biologically decreases with age exposure to diets, environmental stressors. They have the body’s, you know, therapeutic healing ability to fundamentally address the root cause of an issue. Again, that’s just a picture the importance of regenerative healing. Obviously, when we add peptides to a regimen, it totally can enable the body to heal on a cellular level. You know, apologize for my team throwing in pictures of me. I am 52 years old, and I do pretty much look like this year round. And I totally do give credit to, you know, using therapeutic peptides and being hormonally optimized and of course, living insulin controlled but you know, this is, you know, as I always say I learned it early age you want to practice what you preach, right? So obviously I do but again, physiological changes faster healing. I think most people that are familiar, you know, at a cursory level of peptides know that they dramatically speed the rate of healing. I mean, really, it’s like Wolverine, you know, from the X Men if you understand how to use the various healing modality peptides, which we’ll get into in a second. So again, 100 years, very few people know that initially overshadowed again because they were basically small molecules and now they are starting to gain recognition at towards the end of this I’ll talk to you guys about my my theories on like, where this is going. I mean, I mean, I’m as will tell you guys again, because most of you guys are physicians, I mean, I see unfortunately, an environment where eventually all peptides are going to be FDA controlled and compounded. There will not be any off label. Use like now where you guys can all go to like various compound pharmacies. The good news is most of you guys are smart enough to know that like, you know, you’re going to seek out alternative forms of sales, you know, whether that’s like on the research side, or you know, find a compound or that doesn’t really care, and it will continue to sell to them, but like I’ve been told by people, I would say, at a very high level that it’s not lasting much longer. That big pharma wants its pound of flesh. Again, numerous conditions bone strength, joint support, injections, oral formulations, naturally produced or synthetically created, not instant cures the state of health influences the effect be aware of the placebo effect, I always tell people this, I’ve literally just had this conversation with my call with my private group. If a person is not hormonally optimized, and they start on peptides and they’re seeking fat loss or better muscle gain or attention, or just you know, improved wellbeing and all that stuff, they’re not going to get the same effect as hormonally optimized person. And I think as teachers and educators and obviously, you know, frontline users of these products, we have to educate the people that we speak to on a regular basis that like if the pillar is the physical body, then you first have to dial in the physical body from a lifestyle standpoint before you consider adjuvants, like peptides like growth hormone, whatever. And again, obviously hormonal optimization is kind of round one of that. So this is the top 10 mistakes and by the way, for any of you guys that want this I have a PDF of this which I’ll be happy to send you. Again, conduct your own research. You know, most people who start peptides do not have enough of awareness. I mean, I think you guys know. peptides are not easy. You know, when my business partner and I created our first peptide course two years ago, after about four months of selling it into the open market and having tons of physicians and you know, pas and NPS buy it, you know, we started to realize that like you have to have an IQ of about 105 to 110 to actually use therapeutic peptides without confusing yourself because I mean again it’s not you know, it’s not rocket scientist, but at the same time, there’s definitely a little bit of legwork and research. So anyway, mistake number one is buying from a non reputable research chemical company. For you guys that know me I am essentially the master affiliate and, you know, spokesperson, whatever you want to call it affiliate marketer for limitless life nootropics. Now limitless is a research chemical company. But as William knows, they are the only compounding. They’re not a compound or obviously they’re a research chemical company, but in between compounds and research chemical companies. They’re the only one that I know that actually does third party testing and offers certificates of authenticity on all of their peptides. You are not going to see peptide sciences do that. You are not going to see any other research Chemical Company and again, I will argue till I’m blue in the face, show me a compound or that does that. Okay? And again, the compound was are supposedly FDA approved and medically regulated and sterility and process control but I mean who’s verifying that right so that’s why I obviously promote for limitless you know, I am very close to their owner I’m very close to the the company that they get their raw materials from and I can assure you guys that if you buy from limitless I know it’s a research chemical company. It’s not FDA approved, blah, blah blah, but it’s as good as any FDA approved research chemical company out there. You know, there’s no risk in buying from them. But you know, to say that and go the opposite I can definitely tell you guys that a lot of the research chemical companies that you see on Facebook or Google or any other ad are literally being brewed in people’s kitchens and basements. So buyer beware
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purchasing purchasing peptides without also purchasing bacteriostatic water again if you’re getting these from a compound or these are not issues, but for a lot of people that are going to research chemical route they purchase from the research chemical companies again, the two biggest ones now are clearly limitless and peptide sciences. And what you have to understand is is that the research chemical companies are not allowed legally to offer medical advice. So if you buy from them and then you email their customer service team or even call them and you ask a medically related question around dosing or around reconstitution or conversion or any of that stuff, they can’t even answer you. Like they are literally in trouble by answering so it’s you know, it creates a in the marketplace that creates confusion, and it’s unfortunate, but you know, as I tell people at some point, it literally may be the only way to get peptides and I would actually say that if you put a gun to my head right now, I would tell you that is coming very soon. Mistake three purchasing peptides without also acquiring insulin syringes, again if you’re buying from a compound or these are usually provided together but if you’re buying from research they’re not so obviously always know that not understanding how to reconstitute that’s like the number one issue that both even Doc’s you know, but you know, patients consumers and doctors have have, like the question they always ask me is like, bro, I understand how to do this and I know what the dosage is between micrograms and milligrams, but I just don’t know how much water to put into the vial. So, you know, on my website on Jay campbell.com I do have a peptide calculator that’s, you know, designed by a high level developer and you know, it really does give you the idea or the options from based on the size of your vial, whether it’s two 510 20 milligrams or even if you want to do a custom version, how much to buy, you know, choosing one cc two cc’s, three cc’s of bacteriostatic water. You know, then what is the conversion between milligram and micrograms? But, you know, truthfully to all of you guys and gals, is this confusing? So it’s, you know, you definitely if you can you want to use a peptide calculator whenever it’s possible to do these kinds of conversions. Mistake number five starting peptides without understanding proper injection procedure. I mean, that’s pretty much understood here in the medical community, but a lot of people do not understand you know, they think oh my god, I have to do a, you know, a, what you call an IV push or I have to inject into a vein or something. It’s like, No, dude, you’re injecting in your, you know, belly fat, you know, adipose, you’re doing a subcutaneous injection, but again, a lot of people don’t know this. Again, dosing and the difference between milligram and microgram, that’s where the peptide calculator comes in. Not understanding the role of nutrition and exercise and attaining results. I’ve already kind of said that like, again, if you don’t have your lifestyle factors dialed in and you start these things, thinking they’re magic bullets, you’re not going to get the results. Again, having unrealistic expectations, this is truthfully like 80% of the public now, you know, my book was released in February and instantly went to number one on Amazon and like 13 different categories in like eight countries. And it was just like this insane you know, upsurge of people interested in peptides and then you start conversing with them or talking to them and they have all unrealistic expectations. And look, I’ll say this, this is my personal opinion. I hopefully it doesn’t offend any of you guys. My opinion of why peptides is in the mass consciousness right now is because so many people have been harmed by the V, that they’re looking for alternative forms of healing. And so you know, peptides is at the top of the ladder. So a lot of people are looking at peptides right now is like, Oh my God, you know, I need to feel better I need to quote unquote, heal from whatever kind of auto immune dysregulation I have from the V or whatever my my perception is from the V. And so this is why this is like so big right now. And again, I’ve gotten crazy emails from physicians all over the world asking me for protocols to you know, restore this or to help with that, you know, when it comes to the Wii, and I have to be very cautious and careful, as many of you guys know, you can’t say anything against it. If I posted an actual article on J Campbell and on my website has massive traffic but if I posted an article on what to do to quote unquote, rebuild your auto immune system from gene therapy, they would literally delete my website. That’s how insane it is. So you just have to be really cautious when you like give advice when it comes to like preparing or working. around that. Again, I already told you guys not being hormonally optimized, this is probably number one for a 45 year old male or female patient. Again, if they’re if if you ask them, hey, what about your hormones? Do you know if you’re working with a hormone deficiency? And they say I have no idea why does that matter? Then you you got work to do with them because again, they’re not going to get the same effects as somebody who is hormone really optimized and look without getting into the science. I think most of you know there’s a synergy between growth hormone agonists and you know, the anabolic signaling of therapeutic testosterone or estrogen or progesterone. There’s, you know, a lot of great synergy between those two. So if both systems, you know, pituitary endocrine are optimized, you’re gonna get a better effect and not. And then the last one is, again, the difference between various peptide delivery systems. So I gotta say this to you guys, because you guys laugh at this. In 2019, when I was it was might have been 18 was 18. And it was at a firm and I was at the tailor made booth and, of course, a lot of you guys know, the history of tailor made and you know, what happened with them and all that but, you know, I saw all these doctors coming up to their booth, and you know, and I was actually my wife was actually passed and she was doing a book signing at their booth at that point in time. And I just saw all these doctors just flocking to the booth with like the most insane questions about peptides it was at that point that I realized that doctors had such low awareness of this again, there was no no credibility in the marketplace other than like, you know, bro science stuff. It was mind blowing as my business partner, you know, I my business partner, Nick Andrews is 22 years in the biopharma space, you know, he did audits for compound pharmacies, and you know, he’s a genius, biochemical formulator. That’s what he is a biochemical engineer by trade, but we were just watching this stuff and we were laughing because we’re like, imagine the marketplace for peptides because the pharmaceutical reps with literally sell doctors on formulations of peptides that had zero efficacy. And what I mean by that is like, there are literally people out there right now still writing scripts for, you know, trophies or lozenges, or lozenges, or whatever have peptides that have absolutely zero ability to cross, you know, based on salivary enzymes and also, you know, the gut. The peptide is degraded, there’s no efficacy, you know, I mean, there’s almost no oral peptides that are efficacious. You know, they sell seed cells, PPC capsules that have not enough PPC and I’m to really do anything outside of like maybe help the microbiome a little bit, but they’re not doing much to help like soft tissue injuries and stuff like that. So it’s mind blowing to see how much disinformation is out there in the pharmaceutical world of them selling delivery systems that are absolutely useless and so I’ll wrap all that up by saying always and twice on Sunday. Injectable peptides is the highest impact delivery system.
28:56
Let’s see here.
28:57
The best peptides for fat loss Okay, so I’m gonna just gonna go through this fast. I know Bill you told me I haven’t 60 minutes to maybe a little bit longer but I get I want to be wary of your guys time and also save room for questions. So most people today that by peptides are again looking for fat loss, right again, 80% of adults in North America. This is a very recent statistic by the way, Canada and the USA. A percent of men and women over the age of 40 in Canada and the USA are by the BMI obese. Now again, I know BMA as BMI is not the ultimate predictor anymore, and you know, people that are really hyper muscular or very low body weight, you know, are really thrown out but I mean, that’s an insane number. So obviously, the majority of people are obviously looking for fat loss. So these are really the top peptides. And when I say top peptides, let’s be I want to be honest with all of you guys and just transparent there are hundreds of other peptides that are out there that would provide efficacy for a lot of these modality treatment modalities. That we’ll be talking about tonight, but they’re not available. Right. So I’m not going to cover them. I do think at some point they will become more available. And again, I think it’s all going to research because I think eventually the FDA, Big Pharma and you know, whatever things that those alphabet agencies do are going to collude to basically say you either buy, you know, FDA approved, you know, frontline cost products or you don’t get access to them as a physician and if you attempt to, you know, quote unquote sell, you know, non FDA approved peptides we’re gonna come after you I mean, I can see that so anyway EPA morale and this is the peptide that I started using in 2004. It’s insane to think that I’ve been using peptides for 19 years. And that this peptide is absolutely profound peptide in that it doesn’t disturb endogenous growth hormone release, right. So again, depending on your age, and this is also something that a lot of medicine gets lost on this because the older you are, based on how much IGF one levels you’re naturally producing, the less efficacious an actual peptide is going to be to you. And again, there’s outliers, but you know, when it comes down to being like, if you’re 50 to 60 years old, is growth hormone going to be better than peptides? Again, from a form of growth hormone agonist releasing peptide Absolutely, it’s going to be because if you take a IGF one level test, and I realize there are other factors other than IGF one, but if you see your IGF one levels as low as it is, then you realize you have to realize even though very few people talk about this, that a peptide is not going to stimulate much of nothing, right? Because that’s what these do, right? They’re exogenous agents to stimulate your body’s natural production, but if you don’t really have the bio parameters, or bioenergetics to stimulate natural production, you’re not going to get the same result. So I always say, if you’re 50 plus get an idea of one level test first. Find out what you’re working with. And if you don’t have any, you know, go growth hormone over any of these other things because you’re gonna get a better result and I’ve written an article about this on my website, you know, I’m happy to send it to you guys. If you have a question on it. There’s so much bullshit out there about growth hormone shutting down the pituitary. That’s not true. I’ve measured this in myself in detailed times when I’ve been on and off both and there is very, I mean, I don’t even think that you ever disturbed your body’s pituitary from actually using exogenous growth hormone unless you are using insanely high, you know, bodybuilding, super physiologic dosages, and even in that standpoint, there are studies out there that show that those people do not disturb their pituitary function permanently. It comes back at resets. You know, a good friend of mine, a very famous brain surgeon once told me back in 2014, he was like, Dude, if everyone was given growth hormone starting at 35, there wouldn’t even be hospitals in the United States. Right so I mean, like, if we were using growth hormone and clinically precise dosages, you know, for everybody and again, relevant to their lifestyles being dialed in, you know, living insulin controlled, you know, doing exercise with weights and cardiovascular and obviously getting enough sleep. Growth hormone is an amazing adjuvant, but again to talk about peptides and swing back, you know, epimer Allen is definitely the best growth hormone agonist peptide It’s neck and neck with Tesam aralen But like enlarge with men and women. This is the best one I find if I’m around and women works better than anything else. I know you guys are familiar with using it in combination with CJC you know 1295 DAC or without DAC but in my experience, and also my professional opinion, I don’t like CJC and EPA morale and together because I feel like it produces too strong of a growth hormone agonist release a lot of people feel you know, the flushing the niacin type flushing that CJC creates. And I also feel like it’s such a strong growth hormone pulse that it just turns people off. A lot of people don’t feel well on it, but it’s very strong, again, growth hormone agonist to use them in combination, but I like it for morale and by itself because it doesn’t increase prolactin, it doesn’t increase cortisol, it doesn’t cause hunger. And it’s very, very mild as far as side effects. I mean, I don’t know any side effects from people that use it from now on unless they take too much of it. You can take this also because it doesn’t disturb the pituitary. You can take it two or three times a day if you’re you know, anal retentive enough to do it. So anyway, great peptide, there’s the dosage 200 to 300 micrograms again you can take it up to three times a day. So I’ll get to some point in this lecture talking about why we cycle peptides with antibody build up again. A lot of people don’t talk about that but most peptides, especially ag growth hormone agonists, or growth hormone releasing peptides, you don’t want to go eight longer than eight to 10 weeks because your body does have an antibody buildup effect and once that happens, the the the side effects go up, you start having increased water retention. And you also just don’t get the same fat burning or you don’t get the same restorative deep sleep that you get initially. So again, I like cycling the GH agonist releasing peptides by eight weeks at most, you can probably get 10 But that’s kind of the way I do it. So tesofensine is not technically a peptide. It’s a small molecule. But this is a very profound
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it’s a BDNF stimulator. I mean, this was originally you know, a failed or orphan drug for depression. It’s not an SSRI, but it obviously clinically works in similar fashions. But one of the effects that they saw in the patient population groups before they abandon it was dramatic weight loss. But also like people just have a for any of you guys are experienced use it. I’m sure some people in the audience have used it you feel the BDNF stimulation, which is obviously brain derived neurotrophic factor, when I use it and you know, true, true story. I’ve only been using tesofensine since mid 2021. So it’s been about two years now but like this is my favorite peptide when people ask me now like What is your favorite nootropic peptide? I say? Well, that’s kind of a trick question for me now because like I consider tesofensine a nootropic because of what it does to BDNF Yeah, Bill you asked me like how do you put out three emails a day I used 500 micrograms of tesofensine because it’s just it’s it’s it’s truly a profound like I said, it just it puts you in a flow state from day one using it. Like you really feel better now there are people that use this and literally can’t sleep at night. And you know, my pet theory is that they are people that were previous SSRI users. And they have you know, synaptic dopamine, a dopaminergic, neuron dopaminergic and serotonergic issues from the SSRIs that they were on long term and then they went off to them cold turkey. And I think that castle fencing reactivate some of those, you know, reuptake pathways, and it makes them not sleep well. But even those people and again, I’ve talked to many of these people, and I see this in women more than I see this in men. When they lower the dose from 500 micrograms to 250. It totally goes away. So there’s something about the 500 level that stimulates them or overstimulates them and they can’t sleep well at night, but they still feel amazing on it. Like, all these comments to me are like Dude, I’m literally laying in my bed at night. staring at the ceiling, thinking about what I gotta do. You know, so I’m like, was that a bad thing? And they’re like, Yes, I can’t sleep right. So I mean, like once they lowered the dosage from 500 to 250. Most of those problems went away. But I mean, again, this is just, I don’t know very many people that complain of this. The other thing in the clinical research with this is that you can cold turkey this product. You can be on it for six months at 500 micrograms and decide that you’re going to turn stop taking it there’s no receptor attenuation and there’s a not there’s no addictive qualities about it. It’s not something that you become reliant on and I’ve tested this myself, you know, I’ll go six to eight months on this completely and then go off of it for four months and not once. I’ve done that twice now in the two years I started using it so not once have I ever thought like I needed it or did I feel like I needed to go back on it. So again, I obviously have love and affection for this product. Again, it’s point five or point two, five. First thing in the morning when you wake up and I haven’t met a person who started it who didn’t feel a profound effect again, and that’s the BDNF enhancement within the first 48 hours of using it. Now I didn’t say this and obviously this is why it’s considered a fat loss product or an obesity reduction product. It is a metabolic and coupler. But the metabolic uncoupling effect is not seen until usually three to four months in, in almost everyone when I’m when my wife and I started using this. We never saw any you know, fat loss, quote unquote. I mean, obviously we’re very highly optimized people and pretty lean, but we never really saw anything and then all of a sudden, like magic, four or five months and we both got leaner and we’re like what the hell’s going on? Because it was actually at the time that we started taking it. We had started taking it late fall and it was like in the winter, which is what like when we you know, the most unrestrained, and we both got leaner and we’re like, what’s going on? And then I was like, oh my god, it’s a test of fencing. So there definitely is a light, light political effect of tests of fencing but you see it later. The only other thing I will say about this and again, this is in the clinical research, it also does suppress appetite. It’s not nearly as strong as the GLP is in doing that, but there is an appetite reduction and this also it goes really well with the GLP s because of the v and f stimulation. So obviously if you’re somebody that fasts does a fasting mimicking diet is a keto diet or whenever you’re carnivore. There’s a lot of benefit in this because it allows you to extend your fast without feeling hunger pangs. Okay, so Tessa, I think again, a lot of you guys know Tessa so this isn’t FDA approved, clinically available drug for mostly HIV patients who have a form of you know, visceral body fat deposition in their center mass like, you know, it’s a basically, it’s called What is it lipo dystrophy and they get like really hard visceral body fat in the center mass, like right down around the abs. And this is like known from the drugs that they take in HIV and wasting. And so this drug was developed as, you know, a, you know, an agonist towards tearing up that body fat so it’s called the FDA approved version is called a grifter and it’s outrageously expensive they charge like to have a prescription of this for a month is like $4,400, which is obviously completely outside of the affordability of the average North American consumer. So obviously the research chemical companies sell it for a lot cheaper. But if you are a man or really even a woman, but obviously most men have more body fat storage in their center mass or the belly, this thing will tear through belly fat like a hot knife through butter. Again, assuming all things are equal, you’re dialed in you have you know, your living insulin controlled the problem with test them around is and again, this is my opinion, my professional experience and using it it also stops working fast. So you got about six weeks with this to truly see maximum impact. So I always tell people, like if you have belly fat, and that’s where most of your fat is. stored. This is the peptide for you. I still prefer EPA morale and overcast morale. And the other problem with testing morale is it’s very difficult to get there’s by no limitless right now is just starting to actually produce it if you’re in there peptide Buyers Club
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peptide sciences is always have it now. Technically, because again, it’s a clinically approved FDA approved peptide. Nobody should be selling it but again, they’re not really going after the research chemical companies and a lot of these guys were adulterating the product they put in like, you know, Amadeus or hyaluronic acid or you know something else to basically, you know, adulterate the product so it’s not a patented product and that’s how they’re getting around doing it. I know that’s what limitless does. I don’t know if peptide sciences does that. But again, it’s a pretty strong product. You know, you’re gonna take there is you know, science that shows that it also lowers triglyceride levels, which obviously would be great. And you know, in older people improves cognition and enhances muscle gain. I will say this this is just kind of like a bonus statement like the two best peptides used in conjunction with each other or concomitantly are to build muscle is Tessa and EPA. And I’ve you know, personally use that two or three times in my life and it definitely allows you to increase improve strength increases, you know, glycogen repletion or Restoration You know, much more than like one of them are them each used in isolation. So a combination of them is like amazing for building muscle. So if you have a wasting patient, or an elderly patient, you know, with frail bones or just an inability to put on size or mass like that, you want to give him his test set and put together I will say the one thing to be cautious of those because it’s so profound and its effect is that you will have very significant water retention, which is obviously you know, very noticeable because it’s increasing glycogen, you know, in the cells. So, you know, that’s one thing to know about, but that’s definitely, by far the best combination for muscle gain. But again, test is one milligram, am and one milligram PM. PM, am pm injected and again six weeks before you start getting downregulation AOD 9604 So this is one of those peptides where in theory, the research shows it’s amazing but in actual practice, you don’t get the same effect at the beginning of semaglutide. making the rounds is like the big GLP one agonist that everybody was prescribing for appetite suppression and of course for type two diabetics to improve insulin sensitivity. This was the peptide that they were scripting in combination. And so of course I use this in combination before I’ll get into his appetite in a second before I started using that with SEMA. You know, I never got the fat loss that everybody raves about with this product. Maybe some of you guys have seen it, you know? I have heard and experienced from some people that I work with or have spoken to that they do see fat loss from it. For some reason, all AOD 9604 did for me was create water retention, you know, and I experimented with a pretty high dosage of this. So again, I’m not downplaying this, you know, if you get decent results from it, you know, stick with it. That’s what I use. I actually even went up to 600 micrograms twice a day when I was deep into the semaglutide You know, being a lab rat, and I just, I never saw the same effect that I would see with other growth hormone agonist peptides. So, jumping into Sema, so So this was the first GLP one agonist you know, that really started to make headway in the Big Pharma world and you know, obviously now you’ve got people that have been using Sim semaglutide for two years. It is obviously FDA approved. It’s not as strong as ters appetite, which is a Gi Gi p and a GLP. One agonist. So this is a single agonist there’s appetite is a double agonist. Literally in four days, I’m sorry five days so it comes out on Monday. The results of the trial for Retta true tide, which is the first triple agonist GLP peptide is coming out now. I can tell you guys this if they approve it, and so far indications are they’re going to I’ve been following the trials for it’s been in trials for four years. It will literally be the first peptide that attacks body fat, or body composition modulation from all three known levels, which is obviously enhancing enhancing enhancing thermogenesis improving metabolic basal metabolic rate and then also increasing brown adipose tissue formation in the upper back or lower back. So essentially, you’re tackling fat loss or lipolysis through all three known pathways. So essentially, it will be the magic injection to reduce body composition better than anything else. So again, we all kind of have to say a prayer or keep our fingers crossed that they actually grant that product. You know, clinical license and application so that the world can get it it will dramatically improve over what people are experiencing with there’s appetite which I’m going to get to in a second I write about yours appetite deeply and the new book that’s coming which you know, is going to help a lot of people so anyway, my feedback on semaglutide is it’s okay there are more side effects with this product than there are with cheers appetite.
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The bottom line with all GLP one agonist that I think is important and you guys as clinicians, you know really need to stress this with your patients is they’re not magic bullets. There’s way too many people who think that they can take these products and still eat like shit and not control their insulin. And they’re the ones that get the side effects. They’re the ones that have the gallbladder problems. They are the ones that have, you know, increased resting heart rate. I mean, all these bullshit side effects that you see people report that doctors like, you know, Dr. Peter Attia and others, I won’t mention names, you know, glamorize on, you know, there’s also the muscle loss and the wasting from these things. This is all complete fear porn designed to you know, again, create issues where there really isn’t and the issues and again, I’ll just say this, I was gonna save this for Zaporozhye but since I’m talking about it now, I’ll just cover it right now. If you don’t teach the patient how to properly lose body fat when they’re on a GLP and a proper, you know, instructions on how to do that is to do this as obviously again change lifestyle lower insulin control for carbohydrate consumption. You know, you have to eat enough protein again, one gram of protein per pound of lean body weight, not per pound of body weight, because if you have a 400 pound morbidly obese man, he cannot be eating 400 grams of protein because he’s gonna be converting, you know, through gluconeogenesis carbohydrates or insulin from his protein. So again, if he’s 400 pounds, he’s morbidly obese and it’s 35 to 40% body fat, he’s probably going to be eating 180 grams of protein, which is fine, but that’s where people are confused and so you see, people lose a ton of weight on these things because they don’t eat in bulk if you’re a morbidly obese person, and you see the scale and your weight dropping and your pant sizes dropping if you’re a man and dress sizes. If you’re a woman, you’re not gonna listen to some, you know, subject matter expert or even your doctor who says, Hey, you’re doing this wrong. You’re gonna have rebound weight gain when you stop taking these ease up agents, because you’re crashing metabolism and crashing thyroid and that’s what ends up happening to these people. And so the biggest problem is, is that then they go online and they say, Oh, I lost 80 pounds, but I regained 120 It’s a scam. Don’t take it. And then again, Peter Rokia, you know, he goes public and he latches on to the studies. And again, these studies are in these type of people who are comorbid in type two diabetic and not losing body fat correctly, you know, within the context of health and longevity. They’re not doing any of the things they should be doing and again, a lot of this times, it’s not their fault. You know, they’re not working with somebody who actually knows how to counsel them, you know, intelligently on how to lose the weight. And so yes, there is muscle wasting, there is muscle loss. There is bone loss when you’re 70 years old, and you stop eating food and you don’t train and you’re still eating like shit. So I mean, you know, there’s, it’s a double edged sword, you know, it everything is context with this. So if you’re not teaching them how to lose the weight correctly, while they’re using these, there are going to be those side effects. But I always tell people that context is key. If you do these, if you do this, right, with these agents, there’s never been anything more profound, and helping people change their habits. Look, you guys have probably seen this and I’ve been writing about this a lot lately. There’s all sorts of research that’s come into the marketplace in the last three months. That shows that GLP one agonists and VIP agonists are literally curing people of depression. They’re curing people of impulsive habits. I mean, people are talking about how like their entire life is changing because they feel more positive and motivated because of what the you know, the things that it’s time to suppress appetite and control, you know, impulse. So they’re very, very fascinating agents. Obviously, they’re so new there is the jury’s still out. We don’t have 10 to 20 to 30 to 40 years of clinical data, but in my personal experience of using these with my clients, and people that I speak with you know, on the internet, you know what you’re in the 1000s if done right, these things are absolutely life changing, life altering transformative products. I’m going to show you guys a before and after before the show’s over who will be covered in a book of a man who is a Wall Street executive helped me actually in the health business in Wall Street, and the transformation that he made in 42 days using ters appetite. I mean, it’s like when you see the picture, it’s like kind of suspended disbelief, you know, like, that’s not possible. And I’m like, No, it is, you know, and that’s what these agents can do. Again, if you’re doing this correctly. Alright, so let’s just keep going. So again, point two five milligram for sunagro tide, and you can titrate up to 2.4 milligrams. Now, one of the things that talked about with GLP is and you guys are the ones that talk about is the idea that if you do this, right, you don’t really have to titrate the dosage that high. Now obviously supremely insulin resistant, morbidly obese, metabolically dysregulated people who don’t do the things that you tell them to do about, you know, modulating their lifestyle, you know, getting in the gym, I mean, again, a 400 pound person, it’s a lot harder for them to go to the gym and train than it is a you know, guy who’s trying to lose 25 pounds or a woman trying to lose 25 pounds. But, you know, again, context is king. They don’t really need to increase the dosage of these things like so many people do. And then you also have the idea of cost, you know, when these people are taking four to five times the starting weekly dose by the second month or the third month, I mean their costs are skyrocketing on these products so it’s like you know, I always say discretion is the better part of our change your lifestyle, you know, use the minimum dosage the you know, the minimum effective dosage. And then just continue to modulate based on your lifestyle improving and seeing what happens before you increase but I see way too many people that after two months are at five times the dose, and now they’re not eating any food at all, you know, they definitely are going to have some form of metabolic dysregulation just from taking too high of a dosage and not eating because these things are so effective. So anyway, you know, I wanted to say that just kind of a personal searchers appetite is obviously the newest one, it’s all the rage. If you read the news, which I tell you guys to avoid for the most part. But you know, this is going to be already it’s already projected to be the number one pharmaceutical drug in the history of the world. I mean, it’s making so much money I mean, it sells out almost every compound that sells this, you know runs out of supply, you know, at least their supply chain goes dry like twice a month. Even the research chemical companies that I work with and you know connected with right out of this. I mean it’s the number one selling product. I mean, again, it’s the number one selling pharmaceutical product for a reason. It suppresses appetite better than anything we’ve ever seen. And it as a GI P is enhancing metabolic rate. So, now look I haven’t talked about this, but if you aren’t a lean person, you know, a fitness competitor, a person that you know, is just wanting to look better naked, to be functionally stronger, you know, to be able to look better in your 60s 70s and 80s to carry your kids to climb Mount Everest, whatever. I mean, these things are profound. Because you can take your 16 you know, you’re 1416 hour fast and go 24 hours and do it regularly, right. Like you can easily do two or 324 hour fasts in a week. And again, we know all the research from autophagy and hormesis and all these things that happen that if you do that you’re going to extend your life. You’re going to enhance telomerase. I mean, there’s so many things you do to your biological age when you’re a regular intermittent faster. And again, when you take you’re fasting, and again, a lot of people don’t know this, but when you take your fasting from 14 to 16 to 20 plus hours. That’s when the true Fat Loss Benefits happen because when you start tapping in too stubborn fat reserves through catecholamine activation, that’s when you start changing your physique and this is where people like you know whenever people ask me for advice about fasting I say how many hours a day you fast Oh, you know I usually fast from eight o’clock at night till one o’clock in the afternoon or 12 o’clock in the afternoon. I’m like, Okay, that’s great. 1516 hours, I want you to extend your fast for two weeks, by four hours a day. Oh, you know, I don’t know if I can do that. Okay, well, then don’t do it. But if you do, come back to me and tell me what happens. And every single time and again I’ve written books on fasting, going back to 2016. But every single time that I’ve ever done this and the person’s actually adhere to it, they would come back to me and say, Oh my God, that’s the most insane. It’s life altering. I’ve lost two inches on my waist. And again, we know this scientifically metabolically because when catecholamines the fight or flight hormones are being activated. They’re mobilizing all of the Type B or the A twos and the b two receptors, which are the you know, stubborn fat loss adipocytes, and those things have no blood flow. So when you start swimming, you know with catecholamine norepinephrine epinephrine, and noradrenaline and those things flood those areas of stubborn body fat, it melts it off. So all you have to do is literally go from 16 hours of fasting to 20 and do it for two weeks and watch what happens to your body. Now, that’s hard for most people, but not now with there’s appetite because there’s appetite is legitimately turning off your appetite. It’s suppressing the desire to eat. Now again, you can’t not eat when you’re using GRPs you have to eat you got to get protein. You know, my book The 30 days to shreds book which is coming is you know, a absolute cookie cutter, boilerplate, boilerplate, templatized version of what to do we actually even have the book organized is like, Okay, you’re a newbie, you’re a mid level guy, you’re advanced and then we call FF O, which is fully fucking optimized, right? Like I’ll do whatever it takes. I’ll use whatever drug whatever peptide whatever GLP you tell me, just tell me how to do it, where to get it, when to do it, blah, blah, blah. I want to do it right. So like it’s all in there. But if you use choose appetite, and you can fast, two to three days a week 20 to 24 hours. So literally go an entire day without eating, you will dramatically change your body composition and again in a positive way, and nothing before ters appetite has been able to doll or suppress appetite like it does. And again all the science shows this. It does also have makes dramatic improvements to HPA one C. I truthfully I have been using shows appetite now for 18 months on and off. I’ve searched I’ve used you know surgically precise dosages of like point seven five I’ve used obviously point, that normal dose of 2.5 I’ve even gone up as high as 3.5. I don’t think that anyone ever needs to use more than 2.5 milligrams a week. Again, if you use this correctly in the context of insulin control, living and long term fasting, it’s just there’s nothing better to suppress appetite and I will definitely tell you guys this to the one side effect that it’s obviously known for is smaller bowel movements and who does smaller bowel movements right so I mean, all these you know, rumors on the internet of it causing, you know, issues with the colon or gall bladders. I mean, again, these are people who are literally still eating like shit. They’re flaming dumpster fires of inflammation and metabolic dysregulation, and they’re still using this, you know, because it obviously suppresses their appetite but they don’t change and so they’re just piling dogshit upon dogshit into their body. Those are the people that experience side effects. Again, I’ve worked with hundreds of people who have used this who have dramatically, dramatically altered their life. I mean, I mean, these people I mean, you’ll read this when you guys for you guys that are lucky enough to get a copy of this book and read it. There’s an entire chapter of eight people who literally transformed their life and it’s not just you know, the physical, it’s like the mental, the spiritual, like how much more in control of themselves they are and I really just say that, you know, it’s there’s appetite more than anything else because, again, the study and the science continues to come out about how it changes human behaviors. And so again, I just love this again, 2.5 milligrams. Again, they tell you to increase your titrate up to double the dose in the second month you absolutely do not need to do that. Now again when I say that, that’s what the caveat that you’re not 400 pounds, you know some people who are absolutely insulin resistant will probably you do have to go a little bit high overdosage especially if they’re not cleansing their lifestyle, but I’ve worked with people who are 100 pounds overweight, and they stayed at 2.5 milligrams for three months, and they lost 80 pounds, and they actually felt good doing it. So it’s absolutely possible to stay at that 2.5 milligram dose I again, I’m a minimalist and everything I do is always less is more. I do not think that anyone needs to increase the dosage with again, the caveat being if that person is incredibly insulin resistant, you may have to make exceptions.
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So Mazzi again, this is one of those like amazing mitochondrial optimizing peptides. I find and again, my personal opinion experience, the more insulin resistant and less mitochondria optimized a human being is the better effect they’re gonna get from Mazzi. But every time I say that, then I end up talking to like a professional athlete or bodybuilder or you know, racer or something and an a person and they’ll tell me like, bro, oh my God might see is the most insane energy producer of anything I’ve ever used. So, you know, I would just say that Mazzi is one of those products where like, you have to experiment with it. I definitely recommend it though. For people that are metabolically dysregulated. There’s so many different dosing strategies, you know, 10 milligram, once a week, five milligram three times per week, you know, entire 10 milligram vial for four weeks, and then you know, cutting it in half. I’ve literally use two milligrams every third day for two weeks and five milligrams all at once. I mean, there’s just there’s there’s no consensus. Almost everyone that uses Moxie feels some form of energetic stimulation. But as far as fat loss, you’re going to see better results for people who are more insulin resistant and you know, have a lot more body fat to use. So five amino one M q. This is probably the strongest oral peptide formulation that people you know, again can visibly feel and notice the effect because it obviously improves muscle retention. It improves anabolism and what do you call it nitrogen, nitric oxide. So I mean, there’s so many things it’s doing from an energetic standpoint. But then it also in people that are heavy, it helps with, you know, fat breakdown. Again, assuming everything else is dialed in. They’re exercising they’re doing cardiovascular and resistance training. The neuromuscular function, I mean, this is again, a small, it’s not technically a peptide, small molecule, but it literally is amazing. Now, the one caveat with this product that I tell people is this is the one peptide that absolutely stops working in four weeks. Now, there may be some exceptions to the rule, you know, I’ve had women tell me Oh, no, it works great for me for six eight weeks. Okay, great, but in most people in my experience is this literally stops working in four to six weeks. Okay, so just you know, when you start dosing with this, you just kind of expected that might happen in your patients and so you know, you just type trade off. Now, depending on the peptide, you’re gonna get different feedback from different people. Dr. seeds will say different things that I’ll say but like, in my experience, I like to take the same amount of time off that I was on. So again, to avoid antibody build up and to get back to a place where like, you know, body is attempting to achieve homeostasis. You know, I would say if you put them on five amino for six weeks, I would keep them off for six weeks before I would start it up again. Now, a question a lot of people ask me is like, okay, Jay, that’s cool. I understand. But what about starting another peptide at the same time? You can but it’s also depending on the method, the mechanism of action is a healing peptide, is it a nootropic peptide? Is it a growth hormone agonist peptide, you know, for something like five amino if you wanted to go to Tessa morale or epimer Ellen, that’s fine. Because that’s the basically working different different signaling molecules and different you know, energetic systems in the body. But if you were like using Mazzi, and then you went to five amino No, that would be a mistake, because you’re already you just went from a mitochondria optimizer to a mitochondria optimizer, so you wouldn’t want to downregulate so those are kind of rules with stalking. Okay, so longevity peptides. I think a lot of you guys are familiar with J hkcu. You know, I sold a company for a lot of money. Our base product was a facial serum, a cream that was consistent of a 3% grade of copper peptide hkcu. So I call this the ShamWow peptide. You know, as I write about in my book, it has probably more clinical applications for more you know, modalities to biologic biological systems than anything else. I will tell you guys this Dr. Lauren Picard who I’m blessed now to be a friend friend with the FDA. And the DEA went after this dude. Like when he started promoting the benefits of this product back in the 70s and 80s. They shut him down real quick, because this product is an amazing product, but this is the definitely the best transdermal peptide that we know of right now again, readily available. You can use this on the skin, you can literally put this in the hair I literally know people that inject this into their scalp I don’t know why they’re that insane. You know, hair regrowth is that important to them, but I’m like, You know what, you’re not gonna get the same. It’s not going to be better to inject it in the scalp anymore than it is just to put it in transdermal cream or serum so amazing product again, it does it does repair damaged DNA, and enhances immunity. It’s actually a very and I’m not supposed to say this but I’ll say this to you guys. Anyway, it’s a very powerful photo. Modulation, right So it literally blocks the harmful UV burning rays of the sun at specific grades, which is 3% I mean, we have like pictures before we sold the company of people that forgot to apply sun cream screen who went down slopes you know they were skiing like in the winter in Colorado, and they put on the serum of G hkcu on one side of their face and like the other side of the face is completely obliterated red blistering sun because they were on the slopes for seven hours. And this side is completely protected. And he was like it’s the most insane day I’ve ever seen. I’m like, Yeah, we’re not allowed to talk about that. But it’s a very profound product to block. Again, the damaging burning rays of the sun. So again, wound healing, enhances collagen, it’s angiogenic peptides, you know, increases red blood cell formation and stimulates red blood cell creation, of course enhances elastin. Look, we’ve had people that had severe scars, who put it on for two months and it reduced the size of the scars up to 60 to 70%. Again, this is just an absolutely profound peptide. It’s not used enough. It’s not understood as well as it should be. But again, a 3% grade of it is not clinical, and I know this like the back of my hand and it can be sold over the counter and there’s nothing stronger. There’s literally nothing in the entire marketplace for facial regeneration of all the high end boutique products. You know Myrtles Estee Lauder, all the high end companies do not sell anything as strong as just a hkcu and 3% grade. That’s how amazing that is. Okay, so CJC 1295. We already talked about this. This is a very strong growth hormone producing agonist I hate this product because I flush and get the niacin feeling from it and it also just I just don’t like the way I feel about it. You know, it’s a 45 minutes to one hour if you’re one of those people that feels that effective. CJC but again, I cannot argue with its profound growth hormone agonist releasing you know, again, if you are familiar with whether it’s the no DAC or DAC, that’s drug affinity complex and again, that just measures or enhances the half life of the product, whether it’s with DAC or without DAC. The dosages again point 10 milliliters of 2000 micrograms. The one thing about this product that also drives me nuts is that most compounders and research chemical companies combined it and it drives people nuts attempting to figure out how to dose it because usually CJC will be 10 milligrams and the EPA will be six. So they’re trying to figure out the dosage and they’re like, Jay, what do I do? The peptide calculator doesn’t work in this deal. I’m like, Well, you know, you got to back out each one and figure it together and they’re like, Yeah, but I still gotta pull it out of the same vial. So anyway, I hate this product when it’s combined with gibberellin but it definitely has clinical efficacy. just skipping it but because we already talked about EPA. I think I told you guys the dosage is 200 to 300 micrograms one to three times a day. I find it 200 micrograms at night before bed for women is absolutely the be all end all for peptide self stimulation of skin quality improving elasticity and deep restorative sleep. It’s also great for fat loss so pitha on am I still good with time or do you want me to speed up?
Bill Clearfield 1:08:54
You’re doing fine.
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Okay, cool. Just let me know if you if I need to shut her down. So a pin salon is you know, again a longevity peptide. I think some of you guys know, I recommend that anyone who’s 50 years or older should be doing at least one cycle of a pistol on a year. There are many different dosing strategies, which I’ll get to again, but again, this is improves production of telomerase which obviously extends our telomeres which as we know, you know, the one of the theories of aging is that as we get older, the end caps start popping off and they start shortening and so obviously our lifespan reducing so this is clinically proven to extend lifespan. If you use this product in combination with thymine, which is really a bio regulator more so than a peptide, you get a double whammy effect. So I recommend using a pentewan with final end, but again, it’s extends lifespan. The cavesson protocol is 10 milligrams per day. Again, sublingually right. So if you get a bio regulator of this, it’s a capsule and I don’t even have time I do have it at the end of this present presentation but maybe we can do another presentation on bio regulators because I am really knowledgeable about bio regulators but I don’t have the time to get into them today but they’re amazing. They are probably going to be bigger than peptides when we get more you know access to them right now if you want to buy a bio regulator Russia controls the supply it’s very difficult to find any across the world right now. There are a lot of companies that sell them, but their supply is so limited right now. But 10 milligrams is an oral by a regulator and if you want to inject it, which is what most people can get in the States right now, which is that bottle of limitless, it’s 10 milligrams 20 days. Okay, and again, you only have to do this once a year. I mean, there are guys out there that recommend doing it twice a year. So find Mullen again is more of a bio regulator but it’s can be injected. So if you combine Fineman with the Pitzer lon, you definitely are going to extend your lifespan again by more than you know the final scan obviously regulates immunity. So by injecting final and you’re up regulating your immunity in combination with the petrol on so again, both unreal products, boosts immune response extend lifespan just amazing products together. Five to 20 milligrams per day, or five to 10 milligrams per day for anti aging if you have an immunity disorder. This is also a product that you can use obviously for that patient. So again, the combination of both is five milligram of each injected intramuscularly or subcutaneously for 20 days consecutive and you can do that once a year or twice a month. They basically say the older you are the better it is to run it twice. But if you’re between 50 and 60 You probably can just get away with it once a year. Okay, so cognitive I’m going to roll through these personally, very transparently. I do not feel the effects that a lot of people feel on the cognitions nootropics peptides. Like I said I like tussle fan tesofensine better than I like any of these have all of these products I’ll just scroll through them really quick C max again a Russian peptide, it does reduce pain and it’s good at helping reverse like stroke effects. Reversing alcohol effects obviously improve learning capacity. You can use this and for nasally it’s one of the intro a lot of the nootropic peptides are used into nasally I don’t like putting anything up my nose you know, truthfully, I just don’t like the feeling that it generates. So I don’t really like it but I am using all of these nootropic peptides. I never get the effect that I got from tesofensine and as I’ve been very open the last five years. I compare everything to Modafinil, you know a 50 milligram dosage of Modafinil to every other nootropic cocktail and I don’t feel any of these things are as pronounced and as strong as Modafinil. So when I compare, you know, nootropic products to Modafinil, it’s kind of like that’s the line in the sand or the line of demarcation and I don’t feel any of these things, improve my cognition like Modafinil did, or tesofensine does with the BDNF stimulation. So I like if I’m gonna pick a nootropic peptide I like slank and I liked I hexa. And again, both of these are scientifically shown to boost short term cognition, and of course learning speed and also it does enhance memory. The dosages are again all in here. And by the way, for any of you guys that want a copy of the PDF book, I’m happy to send it to you just email me tonight or email William and he’ll give you my email address and I’ll send it our way and maybe I’ll just send you the PDF and you can send it to people whatever. But I’m happy to give you guys a PDF of the book and all these dosages are in the book. And one of the you know the real highlights of the book is you can just literally go to the table of contents and look at the peptide and say click on recommended dosage and it takes you right there. That’s all you need to know you don’t care about the science so again die hexa is like the one peptide I can use it 40 milligrams and I feel it the rest of them I don’t feel it when I when I when I take them by the way 40 milligrams of heroic goes to die hexa you’ll see you know eight milligrams people feel it I’m like how the fuck do you feel eight milligrams I don’t even like it doesn’t exist. I mean, maybe I’m immune, I don’t know. But at 40 milligrams I take I feel something but again, I don’t feel what I feel with Modafinil or tesofensine again it can also be used transdermally. So cerebral ice and so let’s talk about this one for a second. So this is one of those peptides I’m sure some of you guys know that if you start selling this to your patients and that alphabets find out that you’re selling this they probably will come and investigate you because this is a very interesting peptide. I’ll leave it at that. There are people out there that I know of who are using high dosages of this to literally reverse neurodegenerative disorders. You name them, I won’t mention them because I don’t want it to be used against me in a court of law. But they absolutely are using cerebral eyes in a very high dosages to reverse neuro degenerative disorder. You know, a lot of people are in fear of this because it’s porcine usually brain pig brains that they’re using this on. It’s too expensive to use human beings to get this and make this and that probably not be illegal but it is a very profound peptide to again, repair the brain. And I do know people that are using this in autistic people full spectrum, mild spectrum and they’re seeing results in it. It’s difficult to find actually right now limitless has it and it’s selling it for all I know they got it on Saturday it probably sold out by now. Because this is like such a high end demand peptide you cannot get this from a compound pharmacy. If a compound pharmacy is selling this to you guys don’t tell anybody that you’re getting it from them and be quiet because you’re not supposed to sell this and if they find out that they’re selling this they’ll probably shut them down. So again, recommended dosage. This is all in the book, but stroke, TBI, vascular dementia, Alzheimer’s, there’s different levels, different durations of treatments, but it’s amazing. It’s an absolutely amazing peptide a rexon a so this is one of those peptides that was actually used for people that had narcolepsy. You know, they’re finding that it does all sorts of other things. Again, it you know, helps the sleep wake cycle, you know, improves any energy homeostasis. It does a lot of stuff. It’s affecting the hypothalamus but that’s what they were originally using. This was for helping people that had basically narcolepsy. You know, now insomnia, depression, addiction, you know, again, everything it seems like always goes back to some form of Alzheimer’s but I don’t obviously use this but in the people that I know that have used this, they really do. Like it as a wakefulness agent. You know, I’ve had people push me they’re like, Dude, you got to try it because it’s like Modafinil, but I’m like, animal like putting shit up my nose. So I don’t, I’ve never used it, but I have heard good things about it. So I mean, again, if you want to attempt to experiment this as a wakefulness agent, go ahead Be my guest. There’s the dosage. 100 250 So FGL so I use this when Taylor made us to give this to me. Again, a lot of scientific research on it being a neuro trophic peptide, but I never really felt anything. You know, maybe it was protecting my brain somewhat, which obviously it’s been shown to do they use it to Dr. Mark Gordon, I think pretty much uses this with a lot of his TBI guys now, the military guys he works with, but I just again, mixed opinions in the biohacking community. You know, personally, I never really saw anything with it, you know, there’s the recommended dosage. So p 2228. Also one that I have not used but I have heard amazing things about this peptide so this would be the peptide that you would want to put somebody who is a got a benzo guys pain addiction on because it’s been shown to remove the effect quote unquote, that people were seeking from the benzos. And so this is kind of the product that you would want to put somebody on to replace them again 400 micrograms, administered inter nasally. Melanin tan one I could literally do an entire presentation on this is a peptide that absolutely 100% increases consciousness. If you’re a meditator and be you know, someone who is in silencing the mind getting into alpha states of alpha brainwave states or theta brainwave states of consciousness. This is a product that you want to use. I mean, most of you guys also know that it does enhance melanin cord toId receptor complex formation which means it will stimulate your melanocytes so it will darken your skin. I have been using melanin tan one since 2008. I was way whiter than I am now.
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Before I started using this, it absolutely does darken in your melanin receptor complexes or enhances melanin formation in your receptor complexes but it does a lot of other things. You know the other tanning quote unquote peptide that you guys are probably aware of his melanin tan too I hate known attend to it will darken the skin more but it leaves like an orangish Oompa Loompa look to it. And it also has a lot of negative potential side effects in that it enhances mold formation. It darkens moles, and it also can create nausea and a lot of its users like 40% of people who take it or inject it feel nauseous. I hate that product. You know I’ve had friends that have taken it and literally grew moles overnight from using it. So I you know, I kind of stay away from it. But now on a 10 what I love and it’s you know if you want to read a deep dive article on it, you know, go to my website, Jay campbell.com and read about this, but it absolutely does stimulate consciousness. Again, if you’re a meditator and you inject a micro dose of this in the morning and you go into your meditative practice you will get into that state of consciousness way faster than if you don’t use it. So again if you want to enhance consciousness a very small point to five once or twice a week spanning point five up to 1.5 and then of course there is an immunity seeds loves this product for immunity. I mean I’ve never used the dosage level that you would have to use for immunity because you can see it’s a lot higher. But obviously again, when we understand melanin corticoid receptor complex functioning better than we do now at a metabolic and cellular level. We will like break open the keys to the universe because there’s a lot going on there. Okay, so immunity so I think a lot of you guys know like so find this an alpha one I literally carry this away I carry this around with me everywhere I go when I travel the world like I’m flying tomorrow from Mexico back to Florida, my wife and I just bought a home in Florida and I gotta go there and deal with all that. But I carry this with me wherever I travel around the world because it’s such a profound immune enhancer or my immediate immuno dilator if you get sick and you start injecting this you know whether it’s a bio weapon or just a garden variety, sinus infection from traveling at 35,000 feet breathing recycled air, it will dramatically improve your immune function and get you back to health faster. If you’re having an invasive surgery, you should be loading up on this before taking it during I mean there’s just nothing this thing doesn’t do and it’s also FDA approved now, but thankfully a lot of the research chemical companies sell it I buy as much as I can have this at all times that I literally carry for miles around with me in an insulin pack when I travel. That’s how much I believe in this product. I’ve been using this product since 2017. It’s just amazing. I mean again, it’s a whole conversation about it but nothing improves my immune response and functioning or treats various disease states as well as it does so I mean, again, I’m just a lover 1.5 milligram injected sub q twice a week. There’s a lot of people out there Dr. Heather Lewis not had a Louis, what is her name the doctor in Florida Heather, whatever her name is, Fernandez. She you know believes that you should take this every day. So you know there’s a lot of people out there that absolutely love this product. I mean I don’t take it every day but I mean I do do take it twice a week and again I carry it with me when I travel because you never know when the next bio weapons coming so ll 37 This is also a very profound antimicrobial antifungal, and anti pathogenic peptide. It does so many things to enhance immunity and function and literally kills nasty shit. If you had literally COVID This is what you want to take. This will stop COVID Long COVID Faster than probably anything I mean, you would definitely want to come combined ta one with this product. But this is a very, very powerful peptide again, one that I have in my refrigerator year round. I don’t carry it with me, like I do with ta one. I probably should but I don’t have room usually in my instance. But it’s an amazing product. You know, again, definitely something that you want to recommend or, you know, subscribe for somebody who’s sick, because it does a lot of amazing things. Same thing with this one. Now you gotta be careful. You know, you can’t say Oh, this is the product that you give to somebody who’s in end stage. COVID Or is having breathing and airway restricted issues due to COVID. But this will absolutely enhance oxygenation improve, you know, red blood cell formation and flow immediately. And this is something that you can give someone who has a severe case of COVID Even though again, they don’t want you telling people that but it’s again very powerful it can be injected or it can also be injured nasally used, which is sometimes good if you’re you know, working with a you know, a morbidly sick, hospitalized patient. You know who you want to get them back to health. So healing I’ll go really fast because I think everybody is very familiar with the so BPC 157 and TV 500 which is the next one are truly combined. A Wolverine healing stack of peptides they will enhance the rate of healing to four to I would even say 10x depending on like what level of dosage you’re using. They’re not miracle workers in that, like if you have a compressed vertebrae and you’re bone on bone, they’re not going to heal the vertebrae. They’re not going to heal the erector spine Hey, if you’re again bone on bone in the low back, but for everything else, torn ankle torn shoulder torn labrum sprained elbow, you know, sprained ankle, you know, an MCL not a torn ACL where it’s totally detached but like a mild you know, let’s say a second degree tear of an MCL or a PCL, you don’t need surgery you need to inject this into the origin of them combined. And it will dramatically speed the rate of healing. I mean, I’ve had these conversations are almost like now, morality conversations with like orthopedic surgeons of like, what do I do with a 55 year old patient? Do I repair their ACL or do I just give them a course of BPC TB 500 for three months and I’m like, It’s your decision but the science shows that TV 500 and BBC in combination will heal an elderly or an older or an aging patient just as well as a much more expensive surgery. Well, so it’s kind of like you know, like I said it’s kind of like a moral you know, question now like what do we do you know, do we take the money and charge their insurance or do we just give them on a course a BBC TV 500 But I would I would say that eventually TV 500 and BBC 157 will replace a lot of unnecessary orthopedic procedures and maneuvers. So again, the dosages are different but you know in combination, PPC and TV 500 are they’re second to none for healing. EPA and Tessa I already kind of told you guys about this for building muscle and increasing cellular mass this is the number one product in combination again, it’s a massive tissue regenerator and it will also help in the healing process. So again, if you have a muscle wasting person who has been injured their burn patient or again they were they were exposed to like toxic chemicals or something and you need to maintain muscle mass and again, tissue regeneration this is what you get when you get an EPA Tessa and BPC and TB 500 100%.
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I already talked about g hkcu. So those are the kinds of the variations between taking them all together. Again, this is all in the book. So I’m not going to cover. Let’s see. So this is I don’t have to cover this. This is kind of what I do if you guys you know if there’s time I mean I’ll go through it really quick. But this is the kind of stuff that I use. Obviously I use therapeutic testosterone I do use the transcriptional cream so I put it on my scrotum in the morning Two to three clicks. I don’t even have to do a second dosage. You know I’m definitely a person that responds well to the dopamine signaling and the enhanced energy production of therapeutic testosterone. But I think you guys all know about therapeutic testosterone. I have to get into that, but there’s really in my opinion, hopefully I don’t offend any of you guys that are prescribing pellets. And I will say that obviously some testosterone therapeutically is better than none. But I only really liked the delivery systems of injectable every other day or every day or that transcode or cream. I know there’s other delivery systems and again, I will definitely agree that you know some is better than none and there are people out there that can’t do anything but pellets but I don’t really like any of the other delivery systems. You know, pellets have been proven to cleave molecularly at different rates and speeds and everybody is biochemically unique and no one so I don’t really like the way pellets are broken down metabolically. So I’m not a big believer in pellets but again, if you have a way to get them therapeutic hormones, both male or female and that’s really their only option because they’re you know, from a patient adherence standpoint, the only way they’re going to do it then that’s great, you know, get them on that. Obviously I’m a big believer in desiccated thyroid I do not believe I should say no, you cannot optimize the endocrine system without also optimizing thyroid. Too many physicians miss that you know, I know it’s a big bugaboo for a lot of you guys to like prescribe thyroid hormones because that’s like state medical licensing board scrutiny. But you know, desiccated is obviously your way around that because it’s not it’s much more mild. You’re given him t one T two T three and T four versus T three and T four which will be at some point causes an imbalance. You know if you’ve ever read the book, stop the thyroid madness, you know, which is an amazing book for women to learn about thyroid dysfunction or mount malfunction or dysregulation. Almost all those problems are caused by physicians prescribing T three and T four to women and by dosages and they miss hitting T one and T two and eventually it causes complete dysregulation and then they’re you know addicted to high dosages of T three and T four for life and their metabolism is connected to it and it’s just a nightmare. So, you know, I like desiccated thyroid, I think that you have to use that. I’m a huge Metformin person you know I’ve written a 10,000 word article, it’s published on edu. It’s around the world. I’m probably the biggest online advocate of metformin. I’m familiar with all the research. Do not believe anyone out there that says that Metformin causes thyroid I mean, not a Congo dysfunction that’s complete bullshit. It doesn’t really cause any negative side effects. It does control and regulate mTOR signaling. So if you are a competitive strongman, or professional track and field athlete will suppress blood glucose and glycogen repletion to a point where you might not get maximal force production, but any other person who’s aging and wants to live the longest and strongest should be on some form of metformin. I do not agree that you know, Berberine what’s the the highest level version of Berberine right now I forget what it’s called, but there’s a you know, really good version of Berberine it’s not as studied and I don’t trust the supplement industry versus Big Pharma. Even though Big Pharma is demonic in a lot of ways. They do have their sterility processing control dialed in so I like Metformin. But I mean, again, Metformin does so many things to extend life and enhances akkermansia formation in the microbiome, it kills completely systemic inflammation. If you guys have patients that have all sorts of auto immune, you know, dysregulation and quote unquote diagnosis in diseases that you know, are this, that and the other. I love giving people 500 milligrams of metformin and then eventually bid 1000 You know, five and five, because it crushes systemic inflammation so well that eventually they don’t even have an auto immune response or disease anymore because they don’t have systemic inflammation. And a lot of those people that have these autoimmune diagnosis are worriers. You know, they get the diagnosis or the second or the third and they’re like, oh my god, I have this I have to live this for all my life and then they never sleep because they’re stressed out about all their diagnosis. So if you give them metformin and it just crushes their systemic inflammation from their worrying and their anxiety and their lack of sleep, they see dramatic improvement. But I mean, again, I have so much research on this. If you want my article, you know, just go to Jay campbell.com and search on it. I’ve already talked about Mallanna tan, if you’re a meditator, you know again, you’re introspective or contemplative. It’s an amazing peptide for that and of course it does have the secondary benefit of darkening your skin which will protect you from the UV damage that the sun can be if you’re in a sun place. I again I kind of talked about earlier. I’m a huge advocate of human growth hormone. Obviously pharmaceutical graded human growth hormone genotropin or norditropin are my favorites. I do not like any of the US manufacturers, which is obviously Searle which is omnitrope I think it’s horseshit. I’ve worked with tons of professional MMA people that are getting scripted from select people. The US graded growth hormone and they eventually switched to genotropin from Pfizer and they throw away their US growth hormone and asked me if it was fake and I said maybe but the difference between the Jena trope and which is obviously Pfizer, and norditropin, which is Nordisk versus the human I mean, the human the US made growth hormone is like night and day. You know anyone 50 or not, who’s not considering using it surgically precise dose of growth hormone I think is missing the boat. Don’t believe any of the smokin near bullshit about growth hormone causing, you know, this that the other, you know, is it possible that a high dose of growth hormone, not the levels that I recommend, you know, can exacerbate, you know, metastatic tumor formation in people that have a genetic predisposition, which I don’t even know if that really makes sense when people say that because everything is lifestyle and epigenetics. Is it possible maybe, but not at one I use or point seven, five values or 1.25 values a day Monday through Friday? No, it’s not going to happen. Again, assuming your lifestyle is dialed in. You’re living insulin control, you’re doing everything else. So again, I love Metformin. I already talked about test so I mean, I I love that product. Searchers appetite so again, do you have to be obese or metabolically dysregulated or insulin resistant or type two diabetic or pre? To use? There’s appetite? I don’t think so. I think that you can get to a place where you use this as if you’re a faster especially you use this a very low maintenance dosage maybe once a month to basically keep your appetite in check and keep again good for the tip functionality of this improving glycogen glycogen insulin response, I think it’s an amazing product. I don’t think it’s been studied at that level yet. But I think that eventually as more and more time goes on and more and more people become familiar with this. They will see that there is a value to this. And again, like I told you guys, the retro church side, we’re gonna get news on that on Monday of next week. If that product comes out, it’ll probably just blow this product away. Because then you don’t even have to worry about all these different pathways that we do have to dress now to do these, right because it’s going to be again, like the Ultimate Fat Burning equalizing GLP so I mean, I’ve already talked about the dosages oops, sorry about that. What’s the last one so melatonin so I think this is the last slide no no we’re not gonna get into by regulators don’t have time we’ll do by regulators another time but so this is the last slide for this presentation. So melatonin, again tried and true supplement. The latest research is coming out of the like deep bio hacking life extension communities is using melatonin at two to three grams before bedtime, like 45 minutes before bed in combination with pineal which pineal on is you know, essentially a pineal gland bio regulator and I am not kidding you guys when I tell you this, if you want to astral travel and leave your body, this is the way to do it. Now I have personally no experience doing this myself that I have talked to more than 20 people who have done this and are like Dude, this is the gateway out of here. So if you want to do that, again, you know two to three grams of melatonin is an absolute heroic dose the leading researcher in the world is Dr. Russell Reiter is a friend of mine. And you know, he uses like 500 milligrams of melatonin at night for bed and that’s all to me a heroic dose. So I mean like if you want to go into the realms of two to three grams, you got to buy honestly bulk melatonin powder and you put it in the gums and you let it lead gen you know, you don’t swallow it, you let it absorb. And if you’re using the pineal on bio regulator, you know, good luck to you. But I hear all sorts of amazing things. Well, I mean, again, melatonin obviously improves the sleep wake cycle, you know, increase increases polyphasic sleep and you know, deep restorative sleep and so you know, has all those things, but I really liked throw it in here now because there’s something about it that you know, enhances you know, the spiritual connectivity of the physical body so you know, if you want to do that like Be my guest, you know, you can probably Google that and find more of that. See, look at that in the in this presentation. I say 10 to 30 milligrams, right but the newest stuff is two to three grams. So I do have a bunch of slides here on by regulators by see there’s a bunch of questions or a bunch of comments in the chat. So I think I’d rather address that but if you guys have any questions, feel free to ask. Well,
Bill Clearfield 1:35:52
you’re not too enthusiastic about your topic or uj.
1:35:57
This is what optimization looks like. 830 at night, by the way, I’ve had six calls today. And just a little bit of caffeine with my electoral live zero and Mexico.
Bill Clearfield 1:36:12
Okay. All right. Well, there’s some questions in the chat and I’ll read them to you. That’s okay. Yeah, absolutely. All right, from Dr. Nereo. When you say hormone optimization, are you just pertaining to the sex hormones or other endocrine hormones also?
1:36:27
Yeah, so definitely both and that’s where most Doc’s in my experience miss it is they they look for the sex and they don’t look at thyroid and you always have to do both. I’ve never seen a person who was truly optimized hormonally who wasn’t working with both thyroid to optimize and of course management system.
Bill Clearfield 1:36:49
Okay, what is your level of low IGF? One just consider treatment?
1:36:54
That’s a really good question. I don’t want to give you a number. I should know that number off the top of my head, it’s in my notes and stuff like that. But when you’re at the low end of the actual, you know, quote, unquote, bell curve of the standard mean deviation or wherever you’re looking at it and depending on your age, you can use a low dose of growth hormone. And again, I’ll say this, if you’re over 50 You don’t have much I don’t care what your levels are showing, and I don’t care really what kind of fitness you’re in, especially if you live in the in the western world or the first world we are absolutely under siege biochemically. There are so many contaminants in the environment now that like it’s just, it’s prudent to obviously look into hormonal optimization and also, you know, improving your growth hormone production because you’re just it’s just not possible. You’d have to be an absolute genetic specimen in the top 1%. To maintain it. It’s just it’s incredible how bad we’re under siege at this point.
Bill Clearfield 1:37:54
Yeah, we try to match symptoms of, you know, low growth hormone or IGF one. With the level we usually shoot for 200 to 250 Yep, yep. In that range. And, you know, if they’re below that, and they don’t really have any symptoms, I kind of leave them alone if they’re a little bit, you know, if they have some symptoms. Now, Dr. Gordon says you have to do growth hormone levels, IGF one and IGF BP three. Yeah, yep. And you know, I guess technically you should but one, it’s kind of expensive, and it’s totally expensive. Yeah. Not sure. I’m not sure what what benefit you get from the other two. You know, so we do IGF ones here and that’s again we go by symptoms.
1:38:38
Totally and Marcus is covering you know, all angles and avenues you know, the people he’s working with, he’s also doing so much pro bono work too, you know, what I mean?
Bill Clearfield 1:38:46
Right. Okay. So at what level is considered low? Not enough. Okay, so we just talked about that. So usually anything under 200 we’ll, you know, we’ll question them completely. And we want to know, things like the executive function is really I think, exactly. You’re exactly which is if you don’t know what that is, it’s some memory concentration. Task initiation, task completion, multitasking, obsessive compulsive tendencies, dark moods, paranoia, so those are those that I get that right Jane
1:39:24
Well, I mean, I would just also say though, to add to what you’re saying like and I think most of you guys know this and gals I keep saying guys and gals and others both both you guys watching here tonight and again, I’m grateful that all of you are watching here. I appreciate it. When you’re when you’re hormonally optimized, a lower level of growth hormone concomitantly is only going to enhance the process, right? I mean, there’s so many cellular pathways that are upregulated and benefit from it. But you’re right. I mean, there has to be, you know, some form of like, is there an awareness that you need growth hormone, but in my experience, I just see like people really benefit when they’re older, and they’re already hormonal II optimized with a low dose of it. I mean, again, it just depends on the dose, though to like, what when you prescribe it, what is the dosage that you’re usually recommending
Bill Clearfield 1:40:08
for IGF one, now for growth hormone? Oh, usually about one unit. Five drinks a week. Exactly. Yeah, that’s it. Yeah. Yeah. And it’s a very thin, very fine line between just enough and actually becoming dependent on it.
1:40:23
So yeah, I agree. I agree. And I say the same thing. Like I never I don’t even have guys ever go over 1.5 I think, I think a person can do to, you know, for accelerated healing, like if they were really traumatized, and they want to do that for like two or three weeks. But like I said, like when you start going over to I use a growth hormone, the side effects become obvious. You know, you have water retention carpal tunnel. I mean, it just it was a point of no return.
Bill Clearfield 1:40:50
Right. Do you cycle oil peptides as well? So yes,
1:40:55
you absolutely should and again, there really are not a lot of oral peptides are out there. Yes, you can take BPC you know limitless makes BPC in the form of Arginine salt, which actually extends the half life and also enhances its solubility in the gut membrane. So you’re gonna get a longer half life with an arginine salt form of BPC than anything else. But again, I tell people this all the time. You cannot use oral BPC to heal an ankle injury. All of the oral BPC formulations out there do not have enough to provide a clinical benefit and I know that makes seeds mad when I say that but I don’t care. You know like you’re not going to get outside of the microbiome the benefit that you would if you’re seeking for soft tissue injury and repair.
Bill Clearfield 1:41:46
I wholeheartedly agree. I’ve used a lot of BPC injectables, anti orals and no any type of tissue tissue injury it has to be the injectable
1:41:56
100% But see a lot of people will don’t know that. You know, they’re being lied to or being reading bullshit on the internet and they think they can take it and they you know the same. These are the people that come back and say all peptides don’t work. And then you’re like, What do you mean they don’t work? And they’re like, Oh, I took the BBC for my my elbow and I’m like, Dude, it never even got to the elbow.
Bill Clearfield 1:42:16
Right. Exactly. So are people here know a lot about peptides? For sure. What is the connection between cancer Hashimotos? I’m not sure exactly. I
1:42:30
think they’re saying what kind of contradictions that was a typo. Yeah. That’s actually a great question. You know, Hashimotos is one of those things where you’re gonna get 10 different, you know, if you ask 10 different people, you’re gonna get 10 different answers. You know, my opinion. Cancer is a you know, ontological mutation of the cell. There is a psychogenic effect, you know, people that worry about getting cancer, usually focused on creating cancer and you know, what ends up happening? It’s a whole quantum physic you know, what you focus on tends to manifest. I personally, do not think that peptides or even a low dose of growth hormone is going to again, exacerbate or stimulate, you know, a metastatic tumor to grow or to, you know, to form you know, I mean, again, most of the time cancer comes from a long term of worry of, you know, obviously not living healthy life, you know, being comorbid being sick, eating too much sugar or drinking too much alcohol, whatever, all these different epigenetic factors, but I don’t see a correlation again, this is my opinion. And obviously working with people for close to 20 years of peptides, I don’t see a correlation and I mean, is it possible are there outliers? Yes. As far as Hashimotos I mean, you know, that’s probably you can answer that question better than me, Bill. I mean, you probably see that a lot more. I mean, I see how she motos diagnosed and I don’t think it’s actually real. But I think it’s an easy diagnosis to make because of the way that insurance will
Bill Clearfield 1:44:05
actually, I look at the other way they don’t diagnose and it is real, and it’s pretty much ignored.
1:44:12
That will that I would agree with that. I mean, for the people that don’t get it and I see so many people that will come to me and say I have Hashimotos and then I talked to them, and I’m like how do you have Hashimotos Well, that’s what my doctor told me. Okay, well why are you still working with that doctor will No, no, you know, I mean, but yeah, you’re probably right. I mean, there’s a lot of things that are on
Bill Clearfield 1:44:32
the issue. The issue is, you know, especially the endocrinologist will also tell you was thyroid dysfunction is a failure of T four to T three convert. That’s right. And Hashimotos and Graves disease is not that it’s an immune. That’s right. Yep. Addison, you’re right. And they tell you there’s nothing you can do about it, which isn’t true. So those of you who’ve taken my thyroid course know.
1:44:55
You talked a little about that AMG, but it’s the same thing with like, the diabetes thing. Oh, it’s genetic. It runs in your family. There’s nothing you can do about it. We’re gonna manage your diabetes.
Bill Clearfield 1:45:02
Yeah, we’re gonna give you the ad. Remember the 80 70% carbohydrate diet that was that? That was that was that was what you had to do?
1:45:12
Back home real? Literally unreal.
Bill Clearfield 1:45:15
The next question is, what is your preferred rest time and cycles? I think you already answered that.
1:45:19
Yeah, eight weeks. I like eight weeks, eight weeks on eight weeks off. You know, if you’re a for sort of four to six weeks, some people will say to me like hey, but you know, come on, dude. I got amazing results for 12 weeks. Can I just take six weeks off? Yeah, I mean, you can do whatever you want. But I mean, you know in in, in practice what you get may not be the same as somebody else. But again, with peptides experiment.
Bill Clearfield 1:45:39
See what works. The next question I’ve been asking you this for two months does limitless offer physician so I didn’t write this one.
1:45:48
So, I know but so so they want to so I mean again right now so the owner of limitless just partnered with Dr. Joe story, which I think a lot of you guys know Dr. Joe. He’s investing in the company and he is right now attempting to, if it’s possible, to print, create a firewall if that’s the best way to say it so that the FDA is aware of what they’re doing. I mean, they are definitely moving all of their sterility processing control to an FDA certified and approved compliant facility and all that stuff. So, so his focus right now is getting them to a place where they’re obviously not considered a compound pharmacy and never will be, but they’re the next best thing. And then once that happens, that is the path because like I think all of you guys are smart enough to know, the FDA and we were talking about this bill MMG. I mean, the FDA is basically already showing their card hand. You’re not laying on the table, but they’re pretty much telling you, especially with what they’ve done, they’ve gone after a lot of compounds in the last three weeks with cease and desist for selling there’s appetite and some magnetite and they’re adulterated versions that it’s not long before you’re only buying FDA approved extremely expensive peptides or you’re not getting them at all from compounders. So obviously the next best thing and the only option is going to be the research chemical companies. And so then for you guys, it’s buyer beware because you have to use a research chemical company that is doing third party testing and offering CoA is and that’s literally why I recommend and promote limitless. I don’t trust any of the other companies like I’m very open about this. I do not trust peptide sciences. I have tested their products and they do not test out Hi, and I would absolutely recommend that you guys that have access to testing companies and procedures to test peptide sciences and limitless, take the Pepsi Challenge and see what happens. And you will literally not use peptide sciences products. I mean, I have people that come to me all the time and they’re saying dude, I’ve been using Tesam aralen from Applied Sciences for four months and it doesn’t work and I’m shrug my shoulders and I say no surprise there. You know, so, you know, again, take the Pepsi Challenge, no test the products if you’re going to use them. That’s the way I look at it.
Bill Clearfield 1:48:08
We’ve had that with a few of the other companies especially with the oral oral agents. I just like there’s nothing in them.
1:48:16
Zero. Now lint lint from the carpet. Yeah.
Bill Clearfield 1:48:21
What are the triple GLP agonist actions again? And can you say that the name of it is something with an arc? Can you say it slowly? Yeah, I’m
1:48:27
gonna spell it. I’ll spell it right here in the in the reply Rhett true tide.
1:48:35
So it’s a triple
1:48:36
agonist. You know. Actually Hold on one second. If I can find this link from the article that was just released about this. I think I will hold on. Yeah, so here it is. I got it. So investigators to share new data on Retro true tide triple therapy agonist on phase two trial results. So it’s Monday, so I’m posting this right now for you guys. I’m gonna I’m gonna send it to everyone. So you have it right now. But this is the link you can read about this. But you guys this is the holy grail of fat loss. So when this product comes out, again, assuming we have access to and I will tell you guys this, even if they shut it down. I’ve already read all the clinical research. There’s no reason for them to shut it down. But you guys know how they are. They could literally say, Oh, well, we have to do two more years of trial. Limitless is definitely already compounding it. No, they’re not compounding but they’re manufacturing it. And so my guess is that they’ll have it available for sale within the next three months. And unless on Monday, they come out and they say a bunch of bad stuff, but they wouldn’t be promoting this in that article if it was going to be bad. But this product is absolutely in the clinical research side effect. Free and way better than terminators appetite. No why I’m not exaggerating. I mean, I want to use it for myself. I mean, I want to see what it does, but it literally does somehow increase brown adipose tissue which as you know is you know, the brown fat, right so it’s enhancing obviously metabolic rate from that you know how it does that I have absolutely no fucking idea yet. I haven’t seen enough of the research but it’s there.
Bill Clearfield 1:50:13
Okay, so next question was, is c max the same as semaglutide? I actually answered that myself while you were talking. No,
1:50:23
right. Yeah, C max is a nootropic peptide, and it’s not a bad peptide. Again, if I’m ranking and I’m again, I’m not a pro nootropic dork peptide guy, but if I’m ranking the nootropic peptides, for sure cerebral Ison is the head of the class and it will help in neurodegenerative disease and disorders. And then from a cognitive standpoint, boosting I’m Di hexa Slyke SeaMAX and then like FTL and anything else below those.
Bill Clearfield 1:50:54
So we use the Cerebro license quite a bit and then when our friend the COVID The police came around that seemed that we want to rip the the cover off and I’d actually written an article in a in a throwaway magazine they used to have here in Reno a supermarket magazine, because I had when it first started I researched the other stars SARS infections in early 2002 Was it there was one in 2010 and they actually use Cerebro licensed for really successfully for the brain fog and you know, and then all of a sudden we couldn’t do all of a sudden there was no good and we couldn’t get it.
1:51:38
It’s literally been taken off. I mean, look, man, so my business partner, Nick Andrews, 22 years in the biopharma space now he’s just a guide making supplements because he makes a lot more money doing that now he he told me that he was like, I’m telling you right now like if you’re a physician out there, prescribing cerebral Ising they’ll padlock your door and shut your practice now. So there’s, there’s something going on with cerebral ISON like so this is my opinion, and this is just my pet theory. But I actually do think that if we you guys mean the, you know the clinician community was allowed to play around with it and experiment with high dosages, they would find that it reverses Alzheimer’s. That’s my pet theory. Obviously, the drugs are that the drugs are the drugs, the drugs.
Bill Clearfield 1:52:24
We use it for post CVA strokes, or degenerative diseases in Ms. We were doing great with it, and now we can’t get it. So
1:52:36
if you could actually get mark to admit what he knows about cerebral Ison, I think you’d be blown away. He won’t talk about it. He knows he can’t. He absolutely can. So, again, it’s you know, and I don’t care I’m not like subject to the scrutiny you guys are but I mean, that’s my theory. Because look, I know people out there right now who are high wealth individuals who are taking massive dosages of cerebral eyes and cortex in and totally reversing neurodegenerative. disorder. The problem is, is how do you get high dosages? And how do you stay off the radar of the people monitoring the people who are taking high dosages right. So it’s not an easy game to play, but there you know, there are people doing it and again, it’s insane. The results are getting and so you know, that’s why they took it off the shelves and that’s why they’re not allowed to sell it and like I said, like you do not sell that peptide if you’re a clinician. They find out that you’re prescribing that you’re done. They will literally
Bill Clearfield 1:53:34
I don’t even know where to get it. I haven’t had it for years. You can
1:53:37
I mean you literally can’t I mean the Chris is selling it you know Chris, you guys you guys know Chris Mercer is the owner of limitless. And it took him two years to get it. And his manufacturer is a guy in China that manufactures most of the cerebral ISON in the world. And he was like, hey, enjoy it while you have it, because you ain’t getting any more of it. And I’m like, Chris, do you really want to sell this? And he’s like, Yeah, I’ve already had Joe talk to the people at the FDA like they’re not coming after me. So I’m like, okay, so I mean, like, it’s an insane peptide, but yeah, you cannot in the clinical space. You’re not getting it. Forget it. It’s not happening.
1:54:09
Okay. Is there other countries where you can get it, Jay? No,
1:54:13
absolutely not nowhere on the entire planet. Like that is absolutely scarlet letter peptide. No, no chance like I mean like I said they monitor that you know for reasons on unbeknownst but like you just said I mean it does so many amazing things you know used to be I remember the bullshit five years ago, it’s pegged material or it’s pig brain, it’s porcine you know who wants to do that? There’s, you know, prions disease and all that bullshit. They would give around that. And now nobody cares about that because people have seen what it’s done. And so it’s now it’s like, oh, no, you just can’t use it
Bill Clearfield 1:54:48
has less side effects than semaglutide like nausea and I actually answered it for you but you can you can
1:54:54
Yeah, so look, I mean, you know, I’m very adamant about this. I’ve been using it for 18 months on and off and my guys in my VIP inner circle have been using it for six months. Not a single one of them has had side effects. And like I said, the profound aspect of this that really nobody is covered in a deep, granular level yet is how it literally changes addictive, impulsive compulsive behaviors. It literally is doing things, in my opinion to rewire the brain to get people into more of a positive mental state from a depressive mental state. I mean, look, my sister is 44 years old and you know, without sounding like an asshole she’s kind of like on our way to being a cat lady or a Karen or maybe a combination of both. And her friends are like that, and she’s had people I mean, her friends have come to her to tell her that they’re not like her anymore. And like, they’re she’s like, What do you mean? And she’s like, Oh, I started my doctor put me on tears appetite. Or, you know, they usually say the clinical, the Manjaro and I don’t, it’s changed my life. And so my sister came to me the other day, like a week ago, and she’s like, how can you get me on this path? Why are you sure this is what you want to do? Because it’s a reality shift for you. And she’s like, I do I do. I do. So I mean, like, I know that it really is changing people’s behaviors. And like that’s obviously the biggest fundamental thing you can do for someone who’s never been able to control their willpower and change their dietary habits. And so I’ve seen no side effects. I do see side effects and some MAGNETITE i think you guys know that. You know, there’s people out there that track resting heart rate, and they’ve seen like resting heart rate go up like five to 10 to 15 points when they come off of it. But I’ve seen nothing interest appetite and again, I permanent I feel it’s in my opinion, I feel it permanently, is changing things at a cellular you know, bioenergetic level, that’s only positive. Again, it’s only two years we’ve only had it in the marketplace for like 18 months. So I mean, you know long term, there’s nothing but I mean, there’s long term novelty and we’re dying every day.
Bill Clearfield 1:57:08
pharmacies to make it for us, and they’ve added things like VP C 157, and vitamin B six, and they’ve been recommending it in small doses like two tenths of a cc five nights a week. Any experience with that, rather than the once a week one.
1:57:24
That really,
1:57:26
I mean, that’s what people are doing and I think that that’s going away. I mean, I you know, again, what I’ve been told from people, you know, higher levels inside the pharma space is like all of the compounds that are adulterating the formulation, that’s like, that’s like the violation of the patent. And the smart guys are gonna start creating a different product. That’s not an adulteration, of like adding a B six or adding a carnitine or something like that. And you’ll still get the same clinical efficacy, but you technically can say it’s not an actual mimic of the patent. And that’s what they’re doing right now is they’re going after I mean I literally just had Hold on let me read this to you guys. I just had a doctor send this to me like four hours ago before I did it. And hold on. I want to just get this for you guys. I’ll share I’ll share the link. Right here, Nora vote. Nordics is suing every clinic selling copycat versions of as empa ozempic. And we go so Seema, when they send this to you guys, this is from NBC News, literally. today. I’m putting it in for everybody. So this is what we have to start looking for. So you’re going to get literally the Big Pharma branded companies selling suing the compounders. And that’s it. I mean, you know, once they get one when in class action, it’s over because then they just attach every single person that said, Oh, you want to sell this too. And so, you know, that’s what’s coming. And that’s what I was told, by the way, Bill when I was when I met you when I did meet you, but when I saw you again, at AMG, the person that I was talking to there, who’s very high level and they said, This is how it’s gonna go down. And so boom that was sent to me today and I was like, Well, God dammit, there it is. So that’s how it’s gonna go down.
Bill Clearfield 1:59:09
I always like a company like Limited was able to get like the, you know, generic, there’s so
1:59:15
again, this is my theory. And this isn’t a theory this is the truth. So all peptides come from the same place. They all come from China. When people tell you guys that this is Chinese made and limitless. This is one of the reasons why love limitless. Limitless will sell the peptide to you based on whether it was compounded and formulated in China or whether it was formulated in China and compounded I see compounded but I mean manufactured in the states and so they give you a lower price if you just get the thing that was like the whole kit and caboodle was done in China and then shipped over on a boat, you know, or you want to just buy the actual raw materials that is now then relabeled and life lyophilized and put into a bottle in America, that’s a higher price, right? Because in America, you pay a higher price to live in USA Inc. But the reality is, is everything comes from China. People ask me this question all the time. They’re like, dude, what would you use them? Like I use the cheapest version. It’s all the same shit at the end of the day. You know, you’re not getting a higher quality product because it was manufactured, meaning actually lyophilized and put in a while in the States versus doing it in China. It’s the same, you know, it’s the same process. Oh, well, J and China. They have substandard working conditions. And maybe there’s rodent droppings. I mean, come on. It’s all a lab. Yeah, I mean, literally, it’s all the same lab. It’s all the same sterility processing control. They can’t make it in a non place like that. So I always tell people Look, man, they’re all based in China. Almost every drug in the world is made in China. All the raw materials and constituents come from China. And the scam is if they send it over and then they make it in their little USA building. They say USA made you know stamp of approval. You know, FDA certified, it’s all bullshit. So bullshit, you know, buy the cheapest version if it’s the same company and the same product and use that and tell me if you didn’t notice a difference.
Bill Clearfield 2:01:15
Or they can even be you know, just label it. So we got some tests from a from a compounding pharmacy. For $35 wholesale a bottle for 500 Micro milligrams 500 milligrams 30 of them right. As you use it, it was fake. It could not yet didn’t do anything.
2:01:36
Right. You get older, you start realizing you get what you pay for.
Bill Clearfield 2:01:43
Somebody asked about the price of semaglutide and propres. I put in there the prices that we get here in Reno for them on with that good RX coupon if they’ll take it it’s about 1300 for semaglutide and 1000 for appetite I don’t know you know what your what would you
2:02:01
yeah so I mean look man like that is the good RX price and again, that’s outside the realm of affordability of the average American or Canadian so you can get yours appetite at 10 mil and well actually he doesn’t have 10 milligram vials anymore from limitless five milligram vial is like $100 to $125 and if you buy him like in packs they go down and from a discount but I mean you’re paying literally 1/10 of the price that you pay for the material and again, I will wager my life on this. There’s no difference in quality. There’s no difference in fact, don’t believe the bullshit. But you’re right bill. There are definitely fake versions of everything out there. I mean, I’ve had so many people message me in the last two months saying you know, I switched from limitless because my dog got me a deal at South Lake or you know, the inverse you know, I started using peptides sciences and I don’t get the same effect
Bill Clearfield 2:03:00
we know that we know that so and I just for you sports fans out there I put one order in for limitless and I don’t know what happened but my bank bank bank shut down my account back to you did that back but I I got the account back but I never told me they never told me why
2:03:20
and limitless is owner because I’m gonna have this
Bill Clearfield 2:03:23
somebody somebody called me and said you know to reorder it, but I kind of got busy and I didn’t get it right.
2:03:28
Yeah, I mean, so like I got I got I
Bill Clearfield 2:03:31
got I got called I got told today by my my my staff that we’re running out of stuff so I better get on it.
2:03:38
Oh yeah, you need a cool look. I’m gonna have what’s your number so I can have Chris call you I think he gave me your number hold on so you don’t have to give it to me over everybody. Hold on. I think I have you know, I pretty much everybody here has it anyway. Well, then yeah, but just let me hold on. Just let me see.
Bill Clearfield 2:03:50
I’m pretty sure I have you. Here. It’s in the chat. There. Yeah,
2:03:53
I got it. It’s 975-708-8168 to one right, right, everybody. I’m gonna have Chris call you just personally and be like, Look, I’ll fix this but honestly, it does happen every now and then because you know limitless as a research chemical company, for select banks triggers as a high risk category. It’s like buying CBD. Same shit.
Bill Clearfield 2:04:18
Next question, if a peptide stops working, can you start stop and then restarted again and will it work again?
2:04:24
Yes, absolutely will but again you’re building up antibodies in your cells to the actual peptides, biochemical action and bio energetic action. So you just have to just take an equal time off. Now, as I was saying in the presentation, it doesn’t mean that you can’t go from a nut that peptide to a different peptide if it’s working a different biological system. So again, hypothetically if you’re using a growth hormone agonist, peptide targeting fat loss, and you are eight weeks in and you want to stop because you want to, you know, allow the antibody to downregulate you could go to a healing peptide, and you shouldn’t have you know, you’re not going to have the same effect. I mean, you know, in a perfect world, you want to take four weeks off anyway just to allow the antibodies to downregulate but you absolutely depending on your level of healing or the level of healing you need or desire. You can move from a fat loss to a healing and definitely you can work from fat loss to nootropic because that’s what people ask me all the time. And you know, this is like a tough question to answer because I always tell people like focus on the primary modality because they’ll be like, I want to stack bro. You know, I want my I want it I want to have enhanced memory and I want to heal and I want fat loss. I’m like, Okay, well, those are three separate distinct things. And they’re all based on your nutrition and you know, other factors. So it’s like, what is the most important thing to you? Right, you know, focus on that one thing, but you definitely can go from one to one to one as long as you’re just targeting different biosystems
Bill Clearfield 2:05:51
the next little column it just a little little snort, why is there a picture of GH, a copper a vial if it’s a cream? So
2:05:58
so so no, it’s a very, it’s a very honest and important important question. And I can literally say that legally. We sold that company. So this is actually it’s a 10,000 word answer in a like two sentence statement. We sold that company last year for a good amount of money and they owed us $480,000 in December for an in a final inventory payment and they defaulted. And then we found out that this was an equity company in New York that bought our company. They were tied to FTC that crypto was down and they got looted. Yeah. So they are literally out there right now selling meaning they’re not even attached. They’re a zombie company called a seer custom. That was my company that we sold. And they are literally right now selling without a customer support team, a customer service team or even a business infrastructure. There’s nobody running the company. The three PL which is the shipping and receiving and logistics company, which is shipmonk in Pennsylvania, is taking money illegally I may add out of every single took pay for the inventory because the company is not paying their creditors or they’re, you know, what do you call it their their vendors. So it’s like it’s a joke because my business partner has already created a new company because as soon as they didn’t pay us they violated their non compete, which is a good thing for us. Him and I are not partnered right now because I’m doing too many different things, but you know, I’m helping sell the product. And by the way, just so all you guys know because you’ll want this you’ll want to know this the product is a company is called intera. And he is selling literally right now the number one hair regrowth peptide product on the planet. It’s a combination of four products. Let me put the link into the thing right now so you guys can read about what these peptides are but it’s four distinct hair regrowth peptides, and they are amazing. I’m using this myself. I have androgenic alopecia and I would legitimately be bald right now if I was not using this product. I’m not blowing smoke up here guys ask this product is amazing. They literally just launched and started shipping on Friday of last week. So you guys will be on like the ground floor of going to get this right now and he does have now 2000 more bottles of it or he will have 2000 bottles of this by Wednesday. What’s day Tuesday by tomorrow so you guys can order this but let me give you the link real quick to this I’ve been using this product for four months. And I can honestly say is the 100% the strongest product in the marketplace. Oh shit. I just I can put it in there still everyone, but can you put it in the chat there? Yeah, I just put it in there. So it’s in tariff skincare Farlington hair regrowth. Now that company will have three more products to answer the question about the bottle, a serum and a cream for the face and a beard product which Joel will definitely want. No, it’s an insane Bureau product because it’ll probably be the only one in the marketplace. It’s water based and not oil base. So you know won’t be messy. And it’s very strong angiogenic peptides. So if you guys scroll down on that link I just gave you you’ll see all the peptides. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So I mean I am their master affiliate so I do push their product but I mean I’ve been using the product for four months I was the first guy to use it. And it’s way better than a serious product and a serious product which was the company we sold was patented. That’s why they paid so much money for the company because that patented on that product, but now they destroyed the company so it doesn’t have any credibility. Imagine selling your product and not having customer service. Right. So that’s what these companies do. They’re just there. They’re basically just trying to run the inventory out.
2:09:41
Just so you know, since you called me out this beer and this hair growth amazing bow, because I’ve been working with Doc Clearfield now and volunteer with him for almost eight years. And he balanced out my hormones. I’ve never, I don’t have hair on my legs. I don’t hair hair on my chest, or hair hair right here.
2:10:01
But you do have the world’s best beard. No, I
2:10:04
now have hair on my legs. I now have hair on my child growing hair. So
2:10:09
that’s awesome man. No, but I mean, I’m commenting Your beard is awesome, dude. Thank you for rocking it. You’re welcome. Good job
2:10:16
bill. You’re the man. I’m just the messenger.
2:10:20
Exactly. When I say to
Bill Clearfield 2:10:22
we got to thank you for the PDF of the book. And I will be able to supply you with the email contacts for everybody that was on tonight.
2:10:33
Last on here. Yeah, so look, that’s what I’m gonna do for you guys. I didn’t even think about this. So any of you guys so I have a new course that I just released. It’s 299 bucks. I will literally give you guys the course for 99 bucks. So I just gave you guys my email. It’s Jay at Jay campbell.com. Just email me if you want the PDF save you the trouble bill because my team will handle this. And if you want the course for 99 bucks, put that in there too. And we’ll just send you guys back a coupon code. The course is unreal. It’s six hours. It’s absolutely intro and advanced. We go through injection procedure. I mean, we might we break every little known demand in the course. You know, but what we’re supposed to be able to do but I mean the feedback that we’ve gotten from we just released the course like two weeks ago is amazing. There’s no question no stone turn on turn. It’s like me and a guy that I’ve been mentoring with peptides for seven years. So I think there’s a lot of really good stuff in there for you guys. So I mean definitely I’ll give it to you guys for 99 bucks if you guys wanted to just let me know. Just send it in the email. All
Bill Clearfield 2:11:33
right, there you go. Can’t beat that. Mine’s 399. So
2:11:36
I don’t know we don’t want you 99 We do we sell it for 299 But I’m happy to give it to you guys for 99 bucks and I promise you it has it’s all the value in the world. So just let me know if you want it and we’ll send you a coupon for it.
2:11:48
Jay if I can real quick before doc gets into the rest of the questions with the veterans in America and the first second third responders and active duty military who are killing themselves we believe that 44 veterans and military a day what do you think would be the top thing that me or Doc can do to stop this type of stuff with military first second third responders and veterans?
2:12:17
I mean, dude, honestly, I mean you guys already know the answer. It’s you know, get them get their hormones balanced. I mean, they’re all suffering from TBI guys, concussive blasts. The VA is an absolute fucking joke. All the greats and look I work with so many of the Special Forces guys like all the SpecOps guys you know are in my phone, you know, they’re always like, because I’ve been living in Mexico for a year and now I’m parachuting back into the states. Like you know, bro, you’re one of the only guys that will send a Chinook into Mexico for
2:12:48
right right.
2:12:50
But now it’s hormones. I mean, it’s absolutely hormones. They have no help at the VA. You know, Mark doesn’t take anybody now unless you’re like super special connected. You know, it’s you guys now like, you know, you guys were the only ones that can help them but it’s like, the problem is, you know, is that you can’t do everybody for free. And so many of these guys are dependent financially on the free VA which isn’t even medical, it’s not even help. It’s actually like it’s below help. It’s not it’s not even worth free. Right? Because it just fucks them up. So it’s like, you know, that’s the biggest problem you run into. I mean, the guys that fucking SoCal, what is it Joe cow down in Tampa, you know, we’re all the special force operators are balanced out of like, they’re already wanting me to come in and lecture. And I’m like, Look, man, like, I want to help as many of you guys as I can, and I constantly do, but like, I’m not running a charity. And it’s like every time I attempt to help you guys, it becomes like this victimhood. Like, Hey, man, like, you know, we don’t have the money and I’m like, Well, look, dude, I just connect you to a doctor that can help you but they’re not running a fucking charity either. And that’s why more, you know, stop taking patients, because he just can’t do it. It’s not feasible. So I mean, it’s to me the answer has to come in the form of VA has to fund this stuff. And they have to fucking get out of the way and let people like us help these people, because
Bill Clearfield 2:14:15
they can’t do it. We’re making a little bit of progress, right, Joe?
2:14:19
Yes, we actually DEA here. in Reno, Nevada, has actually been sending employees and patients to Dr. Clearfield and they vet amazing. They’re accepting his labs, but they send me to a local hospital. That’s awesome.
2:14:35
So we’re making a little progress. Well, so this is what I think I can do for this. And this is like perfect timing divine timing. So one of the biggest guys and Joe cow or J cow or whatever they call it down there in Tampa you know we’re all these guys are is like a very big fan slash supporter of mine. And he’s like been messaging me the last week because he found out I was moving to Tampa he’s like, bro Oh, so what we should do is you guys should email me and I should literally get a call with him because I mean, I mean, he’s not a bullshitter he’s super connected at the highest levels. And like, let’s, you know, set up something, you know, outside of Mark’s purview where we can like actually talk to them about getting this done right because there’s other Doc’s as you guys know why people just fall in line and donate their time and services if they know they can get some form of stipend from the goddamn federal government that has unlimited coilovers. So it’s just a matter of like getting it to the right people. So why don’t you guys email me, and I’ll connect you with him. And his name, by the way is my name shoot, there’s two of them, Kurt and anyone else? I’ll email once you guys email me, I’ll email him and you guys, and we’ll connect and we’ll just have a call because I’m telling you, he’s super connected. Make a note
Bill Clearfield 2:15:47
of that Jay Jo. Jo. Is the Cerebro lysing docent you referenced 2520 to 50 milligrams a slide went by Fest and you IV or im, well, it’s kind of a moot point since we can’t get it but yeah,
2:16:04
I mean, so you can definitely it’s so I am for sure. Cerebral ISON you know, IV for somebody who’s got severe neurological damage or disorder. Let me pull up the slide. So that’s the thing is like, you know, I’m the same way like if it’s not the mother looking
2:16:17
at it, hold on, just was on it.
2:16:24
VIP FGM so it’s 20 to 50 stroke, TBI 20 to 50. That so it’s all 20 to fit the MLS for all everything and then the the duration of treatment is stroke is 10 to 21 days TBI is seven to 30 days so a month. Vascular dementia is like five days a week for four weeks and then two to four months a year or four weeks. That’s like you know, essentially a third of the year and then Alzheimer’s is five days weekly, four weeks, four cycles per year. So vascular dementia and Alzheimer’s is going to be like three months out of the year.
Bill Clearfield 2:17:07
Okay, I’m not sure what this means. If Qi has QA it’s cheaper than Amazon Prime type price I don’t know what that means. There’s there’s a link in here something products AIBN cell bio regulator pin, pin, pin.
2:17:21
All they’re asking about by regular so look, my main statement on bio regulators right now is the entire supply chain comes out of the cabinets in Institute in Russia. I know you know that bill. The Russians are flooding the market evidently. And by the way, this has never happened up until December of last year. The only place you could get by regulators internationally was with the guys in anti aging systems which is filled by beacons which you guys can watch the podcast I did with him. He’s a pretty smart guy. I’m talking about my regulars but bio regulators are bigger than peptides. I’m not exaggerating. They’re a bigger frontier than peptides are. They are tissue specific. They have no side effect profiles, literally no side effect profiles. They’re almost alien in their mechanism of action. You can give I think I was talking to you about this bill or maybe it was Rob. You can give a 45 to 65 year old aging male who has you know, mild BPH, which I mean who does it? The peptide I mean the prostate bio regulator. And it literally will fucking reduce their prostate to like the size of what it was when they were 21 their beat their PSA drops. I mean, it’s insane what these things are capable of doing. But right now it’s impossible to get them there’s literally like seven or eight companies now selling them there. They’re on Amazon. I think that’s what that person was saying. But good luck trying to buy them now. I am a big affiliate for profound health which is anti aging Systems website that sells the by regulators and I sold the living shit out of them in my first article, and I ordered $2,500 with them for myself and the mother flenders never even sent them to me. They cooked my money. I had to literally like message the owner of the company and be like what in the hell is going on? Yeah, I live in Mexico, but you say you ship there, what’s going on? And eventually, you know, got to Phil and Phil was like what is going on? And then you find out they don’t have any products. So all of the bio regulators right now are out of stock. But it seems like a lot of the companies are shaving it sell them and they’re taking your money and not saying anything. So I would if I’m you and I mind my regulators right now if they don’t say in stock shipment available in three days. I wouldn’t buy any of them because there’s nobody that has nobody.
Bill Clearfield 2:19:30
sex hormone optimization in males do you have to necessarily give testosterone? I’ll let you
2:19:37
know. I don’t think you do. I mean, I mean, look, it depends on the age. It depends on the desire for fertility. I mean, you know, testosterone is the biggest tool in the tool. Belt. I’m not a believer in peptides to optimize I mean, Bill I know you’ve seen this I mean HCG does what any of those fucking peptide, you know, LH and FSH mimetics do but the thing with peptides to stimulate that to you got to give multiple injections the frequency is like three or four times a day. It’s all shown in the science who the fuck wants to do that? Right? Well, when you can give a guy HCG or you know, in Clomiphene, you know, two or three times a week. And you know, they don’t have any of that invasive bullshit that they have to do with peptides. But I mean, there is in my opinion, is my opinion. I mean, you get to a certain point in your life at your age, if you truly want to profound dopamine, cognitive, energy, libido, and obviously muscle building effects of testosterone, you got to use the mother hormone. But younger guys, younger people can absolutely attempt to do the mimetics and see what happens but I don’t find many people who feel that the free testosterone stimulation increase that, you know, obviously therapeutic T gives you know, versus in Clomiphene or HCG, or one of the peptides like tripped up rap or hexa or what’s the other one now that people use? not test us kiss kisses kisspeptin I don’t see any of that. So I mean, to me, you don’t really feel testosterone optimization until free is elevated. I mean, you haven’t said it best in your lecture. You know, people have gone to a clinician who understands how to do this has had 40 is the level in men where they actually feel better.
Bill Clearfield 2:21:16
Well, you know, that guy that just, you know, runs testosterone levels and women is just, you know, I thought the guy was just out of his or guys was out of his mind. His testosterone level was 2000 his estrogen was 175. And he’s, you know, he’s standing up they’re proud of it, but that’s a whole nother story. So what one of the abstracts I sent for AMG for Houston was non hormonal, non hormonal ways to raise hormone levels. So for testosterone, I have 18 different ways to raise testosterone without without using testosterone and I didn’t even mention Clomiphene or DHEA or you know any of those things.
2:21:54
What were they if you don’t mind me asking webstyle modulation
Bill Clearfield 2:21:58
most most Yeah, the first top three. First, well, number one is exercise, you know, aerobic course, and high high protein high protein moderate fat diet. Yep. Was too.
2:22:14
sun gazing in the morning at red light,
2:22:17
fasting.
Bill Clearfield 2:22:20
Fasting is another one, but things like boron will lower sex hormone binding globulin, testosterone. Mucuna Pruriens is another one Yep. Ashwagandha use at a high enough dose
2:22:33
suppresses cortisol so much Silla G
Bill Clearfield 2:22:36
is another that’s another IR Vedic herbs. And I know there’s all bunch of other ones. Yeah, it’s even darker rings in there. Just don’t say to your customer Umbro don’t have will will will BTC injections help with Crohn’s disease and GI issues or stick with
2:22:59
the oral no oral I mean look, Metformin is going to help with Crohn’s disease and Crohn’s disease and GI issues more than any of the oral peptides world and again, that’s because Metformin increases aka romanza mucinous. It Up regulates that better than anything that we know on planet Earth. I’m telling you if you guys have patients that have autoimmune disorders, starting at 250 milligrams XR, Metformin, and watch what happens, they might not even have to change anything else. It crushes systemic inflammation and, and cleanses the microbiome and again, so many people miss this. You know, I have a famous quote in my book and it also in the article and again, this is a very famous doctor that all of you guys know who refuses to be named. And he told me in 2014, that if Metformin was in the water supply, there would not be hospitals in the United States. That’s what he told me and I have been on Metformin for 19 years. I have a biological age according to true diagnostic and glycan age of less than 24 and I’m 52. Okay, I know that Metformin does profound things to extend lifespan. Now, you know, there are obviously certain things that we can see you know, in some of the versions that are made where they get recalled and all this bullshit and they say it has Nick and I need and all this other bullshit. But when you really start breaking down and look into studies, there isn’t a high enough level of any of those things to actually be carcinogenic or to cause side effects. You know, you’ll see shit about birth control or it causes fertility issues. I mean, I’ve heard it all and I’ve seen it all but I don’t know anything stronger than met metformin and you said it best die hydro Berberine with Metformin is now all the rage in the life extension community because die hydro Berberian is a glucose disposal agent more profound than Metformin is right Metformin is suppressing blood glucose and dihydrate Berberine is getting rid of the glucose itself. So you know, in combination they probably are better but I mean, you know, is it kind of like you know, you’re at you’re at you’re using two hammers at once when all you need is one hammer, I don’t know. I mean, it depends on your lifestyle, but they’re both amazing products. And that’s going to work better than peptides.
Bill Clearfield 2:25:13
One caveat with metformin though. So you know, you know, we’re the hormone folks here. So we see a lot of, you know, younger women with polycystic ovaries and the first thing they say to me when they sit down is if you give me Metformin I’m walking out so for whatever reason, they it does something to their chemistry.
2:25:34
I would say when I hear that because I’ve heard that too. I would say that these are people that have shitty diets that they have non insulin controlled diets.
Bill Clearfield 2:25:46
Okay, why not hormones that stimulate the testes? That was a question
2:25:51
when they say hormones that stimulate the testes are talking about FSH and LH analogs. I mean, again, I think they’re fine in younger people, but when you again, in theory, the theory does not match the practice when you start using those in if you took 100 random guys, and you gave them that in isolation, would they have the same dopamine and signaling cognitive energetic, you know, free testosterone raising effect that therapeutic P does know and I get I’ve talked to 1000s of these guys over the last 20 years and all of them to a man there’s some exceptions, but they’re outliers. They say they feel better whether it’s placebo or not. When they’re on testosterone versus LH and again, if you look at you know, when I say LH, I mean Fs I mean, you know, FSH mimetic or LH mimetic, but it’s, again, these are women’s fertility medications. So they do increase estradiol and they also do a bunch of other things that increase the feelings of emotion. You know, let’s call it emotionality. So a lot of those guys don’t feel as quote unquote, masculine is they do when they’re on testosterone.
2:27:01
Right.
Bill Clearfield 2:27:06
When do you believe the FDA will inflate their takeover peptides and should we stock up
2:27:12
100% I would stock up. I was told that by the end of the year and again, that article that I just sent you the writing is on the wall, guys. It’s not long. I mean, they envision a world where you pay the piper, there is no end arounds. Now, how does that relate to the research chemical companies? Well, I don’t know. I mean, if you talk to Dr. Joe story, who’s super connected the FDA he’s gonna tell you it doesn’t relate to them because in the purview of the FDA, everything is legal. And as you guys know, when you buy from a research chemical company, you absolutely indemnify them from harm, because you basically are agreeing to use for research purposes or for not intended for human use. So, they are not legally able to go after them because you are giving up your right whereas with a compounder you know, there are medically licensed and authorized and oversight overseen company and so they can go after them. So what I understand that what I’ve been told is the research chemical companies they don’t really give a shit now obviously if a research Chemical Company kills somebody, and good luck trying to prove that in a court of law, then it’s you know, different story Buyer beware. But at the end of the day, I don’t see him going after the research chemical companies because legally they don’t have a stamp on any grounds stand on. Now, granted, you could tell me that eventually Nazi Germany is the USA and it won’t matter. But for right now, it just doesn’t look like they go after them and they have shut down research chemical companies in the last 10 years. You know, anybody in that business knows the guys that have been singled out but they were literally running gangster businesses. They were not running a business like peptide sciences or limitless is doing you know, and limitless has literally hundreds of 1000s of patients, you know who are coming in for legitimate medical reasons using their products and have you know, rave reviews and, you know, honest feedback from people. So, I mean, like, why would the FDA slash the DEA go after them? Unless we were going into an Orwellian you know, Nazi Germany world and you know, I’m sure you could make that argument that that might be coming.
2:29:20
If I made that Doc. Do you know about Dr. Pam Popper, she’s created make America great again. It’s a entity with a bunch of lawyers. Who’s protecting doctors like you who are speaking out?
2:29:35
Yeah, about very, I’m very familiar with them.
2:29:39
Okay, okay. Because that’s I think that’s the next level we have to go. Because, absolutely. You know, about Clearfield, he went through this with the AOA. They censored. Yeah. Okay. It’s, it’s and as a Marine, I’ll be honest last last night, Dr. Colossus class, we were talking about AI. And I envisioned DARPA, and I envisioned the Marines, the AI saying, hey, look, how do we keep America safe? How do we, how do we make sure we don’t let AI take us over? That’s the way DARPA in the Marines talking to AI. I don’t know if you want to, you know, speak on that.
2:30:22
No, I mean, like, I mean, look, man, I’m, you know, not a conspiracy theorist. I’m a conspiracy analyst. Amen. So, you know, and as you guys know, like conspiracy theory now is really just three months separation. From analysts analysis and conspiracy theory. So it’s like, the reality is, is like we’re going into uncharted waters right now on planet Earth. I don’t trust anyone in any kind of control. I mean, we’ve all seen what’s happened in the last three years. I mean, there is no government at this point. I mean, like the government has been hijacked or corrupted or whatever the fuck you want. I don’t care what side of the political equation you’re on. I mean, I always say like, at the end of the day, like there is no sides that just make us think that there are sides right. There’s only special interests. There’s nothing but special interests and corporate control and, you know, money machines at the top, but like, I mean, dude, I don’t know we’re definitely going into uncharted waters. But I always say where there’s a will there’s a way and if there’s a demand, there will be a supply. So if they shut down compounders and they shut down research chemical companies, then somebody will meet the demand. It’s just the way of the marketplace. Now. Again, I don’t know if you know, what’s his name Klaus Schwab. If he says, you know, let them eat bugs. They’ll be they’ll, they’ll have nothing and be happy. I mean, if they eventually institute that in America, then we’ll have civil war. There’s too many guns in the United States. There’s too many, you know, active and ex military. There’s too many crazy people. Like us that have lots of guns and ammunition. So what are they going to do? Right? But if that’s where it goes, then you know, my answer would be like,
2:31:55
you know, all bets are off. Be Optimizely on your hormones, right?
2:32:01
Exactly. And that’s whoever said like should we stock up you should always fucking be stocked up, you know, be ready, right? Was that Know thyself? And that Boy Scout Motto? You know, always be ready. I mean, like, you gotta be I mean, there’s no reason not to be I mean, we don’t know what’s coming next. But I mean, it’s a fucking weird world we’re living in right
2:32:19
now. Amen.
Bill Clearfield 2:32:20
Cerebro, licensed for PTSD. We’re almost done.
2:32:25
Absolutely. Absolutely. PTSD. Amazing. The other one is pe 22. That’s another peptide that’s really good for depression. You know, obviously most people with PTSD have depression. So that’s also a really good one. And again, and again, I haven’t used it personally. But my the feedback that I get if you have people that are on benzodiazepines, or addicted to them, that’s what you use pe 22.
Bill Clearfield 2:32:49
Those Metformin effect B 12.
2:32:53
So, yes, always ruled on when you use Metformin it hyper excretes, folate, thymine, methionine, unknown, or methionine however, you fucking pronounce that and B six, B 12. So the solution for metformin and I’ve always been very outspoken about this is you use Jaras B right supplement when you take metformin and you have to take that at all times when you’re using that form. And then that will, you know, essentially alleviate look, the mitochondrial dysfunction and dysregulation bullshit that’s out there from Dave Asprey and then there was a doctor what’s her name? Chandler Mars, you know, in Vegas if you might know her. William he’s she’s actually a friend of mine now because I challenged her I was at a forum and you know, I was like, Look, I’m here, you’re here. Let’s go have a open debate about this because you’re the person that talked about mitochondrial dysfunction and when and, I mean, I have women in patients using Metformin. And so we sat down and we talked about the research that she used and it was like, here’s the research 137 women who were type two diabetics and morbidly obese I shit you not. And here’s the amount of metformin they were using and the dosage and are you guys ready for this? They were using 10 grams a day. 10 grams a day. So I literally was like Dr. Mars, will you admit that this is not otherwise normal, healthy patients? And she said, I will admit that and I said, Well, why did you do what you did? And she goes, No, you know, maybe I cut a couple of corners. So she was like, openly and honest with me. And I’m like, Okay, well, Dave Asprey and Peter A TIA and all these guys went to the market and said that this is what it does. And it’s bullshit. So she’s like, well, you know, you’re probably right, but at this point, the cats out of the bag. I’m like, You should fucking recant. You know, I’ll publish the article on my website. She wouldn’t do it. But she openly admitted that she misinterpreted the research. So I mean, there’s nothing out there about Metformin that says it’s bad. It’s all bullshit. There’s nothing that should be first line of defense for life extension if that’s what your goal is.
Bill Clearfield 2:35:05
One another comment. Some people are sensitive to Metformin, they get diarrhea.
2:35:10
Okay, so this is absolutely very known. So Metformin is up regulating Aquaman sia is going to cause you know distension abdominal distension not nausea, but just a feeling of discomfort until it kills all the pathogens in the stomach. And so it’s going to be you know, in a person who has severe dysbiosis, five to seven days before they start noticing, improvement. But again, that is that’s when you know what’s working and obviously there is a workaround with this and that is using XR extended release version. Most people do not get that effect using XR.
Bill Clearfield 2:35:54
Okay, that’s that’s anybody else have any comments or questions? I think we’ve occupied you for two and a half hours you’ve been talking and I appreciate you can do another two and a half years
2:36:05
ago, I haven’t eaten I’m fasting right now. So Mike, you know I’m about to break my fast but ya know, I mean, honestly, guys, amazing. I appreciate you guys being here. You have my email address. If you need to get a hold of me Yeah, jump in an email me.
Bill Clearfield 2:36:19
We’ll get we’ll get the video one on our website as soon as we can. Is it possible that I can get the slides that I can put up there? Yeah, absolutely.
2:36:27
I’ll send you that. I’ll send you a link to the slide deck.
Bill Clearfield 2:36:30
And, and we’ll get you the we’ll get you the contact list too.
2:36:36
Okay, awesome, guys. Yeah, no, I’ll definitely and so I’ll send an email. I have my team create an email and I’ll send out the link to the coupon. We’ll create a coupon for you guys. And then of course, I’ll send a PDF of the book in the
Bill Clearfield 2:36:47
air and we will definitely have you on again for the
2:36:50
regulator’s Yeah, for sure. I look forward to that and honestly it’s better than I do it later anyway, because we’re writing a bunch of articles right now and there’ll be a lot more stuff out but man, I can’t wait. So I will just share with you guys like my goal is to have a bio regulator company to be the biggest and best in the West. Because right now, like I said, it’s absolute shady. It’s like the wild wild west and that company is coming. It’s in the works. It’s just right now about establishing the right supply chain. You basically just have to buy from the Russians and volumes of a million and nobody’s buying and buying a million they’re buying and like 200,000 increments or 150,000 increments and they’re like not there’s no incentive for us. Give us an incentive. So we found out it’s a million so we’re like okay, well I gotta get the I gotta get the venture capital guys I gotta get the right guys because I don’t need people going bad so hopefully you know that’s coming but I’m telling you and by regulators are in the West it will change the game for optimized health care without question you know, in combination with peptides they even are work better just have to know how to do it.
Bill Clearfield 2:37:49
That a lot of comments about you know, great job and you know how much we all appreciate it. One last question was what’s behind you? Is that a green screen or?
2:38:00
No, no. So this is my wall. So I do a lot of, you know, spiritual content. And you know, I have Yoda behind here and then I have like the shaman from the the Altiplano in Peru. So these are actually oil paintings. Then this is from Peru. And then this one is actually from the Yucatan where I lived out here in Mexico, but you know, I just spiritual, spiritual what’s the what’s the
Bill Clearfield 2:38:24
caller? What’s the color chart over your right shoulder?
2:38:27
Oh, so this is Dr. Hawkins map of consciousness.
Bill Clearfield 2:38:30
Okay. And the other two over there and we can see that half of it on your
2:38:34
these two right here? Yeah, yeah, these are just oil paintings of like, shamans from Peru.
Bill Clearfield 2:38:43
Okay, all right. Great. Anybody else have any comments or questions? Jay, I can’t think of one
2:38:48
more. One more brochure.
2:38:49
I think Clyde has a question. One more
2:38:51
on psychedelics. Let’s say we do a whole thing. We go through the whole hormone we go through the whole everything I’ve been working with Dr. Clearfield for eight years. A lot of trauma in my youth and a trauma in the Marine Corps, blah, blah, blah. Psychedelic seem to be like, powerful and useful. When do you think you use them or what’s your experience with them? Yeah.
2:39:15
I have profound experience with them. Obviously. I’m a huge plant medicine guy. I’m actually a five Meo guy. I always tell people like why fuck around when you can go to the mothership in five seconds. Right. So like, you know, all the other things are great, but like if you really want to get into the source field, use five Meo so I have an article about five EMEA that I would recommend you guys read it’s sourced at arrowhead. I’ll send it to you. So when I send the email, I’ll send the link to that too, but thank you, nobody, and this is my opinion, but obviously a very experienced user 20 years plus of using these things. No one should ever take any plant medicine who’s afraid because the plant is a vibratory amplifier. And so if you’re vibrating and fear, dissonance, you know incoherence you’re gonna get that from the plant. Now, that’s not saying that that won’t be a decent and relevant experience for your journey, but a lot of people who are in fear of it get profoundly negatively altered from this, like I know people who have done plant medicine journeys who have never recovered. Now, you won’t ever hear people who sell the experience of plant medicines and going to the jungle and doing shamanic journeys, but the truth is, is that if you’re not have the right frequency, and again, not have the right frequency means you’re in fear of it. You’re asking for trouble. Not to say it won’t benefit your energy field to do it, but you’re asking for trouble. So if you’re going to do something like that, you go in with the knowledge that the plant or the toad if you’re using five Meo DMT is going to give you exactly what is necessary for your soul to evolve not what you want. And too many people want specific outcomes and that’s not how it works. So if you just go in fully surrendered with the idea that like hey man, this is like an amazing journey and I’m going to enjoy the ride. Give it to me source Give it to me, God Give it to me spirit, great, great spirit. You’re gonna get an amazing experience but too many people are afraid of it. I’ve seen it too many times.
Bill Clearfield 2:41:15
Yeah, you got any, any comments, whereas set and
2:41:19
setting, say
2:41:21
setting bro setting setting you just nailed it set.
2:41:26
You’ve hit a bunch of things real heavy and home to our hearts mine also, and between you and Bill, we could put on a show on the east coast. So I’ll tell you now I was going to ask you to what you think about it because you’re saying profound brave things. So we need to respect and honor that bravery. Thank you.
2:41:46
Thank you, John. You have the second best beard bide Yeah,
Bill Clearfield 2:41:50
you have something that
2:41:52
I have a question. I started studying pretty heavy into the peptides about four or five months ago and when I came across YouTube, I saw that graph from David Hawkins power versus force behind me. That’s right. pretty curious. I dug in. I’ve been testing muscles for 45 years now. That’s awesome man. And it’s it’s a very powerful tool. And when I started into Hawkins work in the mid 90s, I was able to add not just qualification but quantification to these things, right? We can literally utilize muscle response test to assess not just the quantity but the quality of the effect of anything in the body and going in the body. That’s exactly right now it’s really a powerful tool for just assessing the quality of the nutrients as it comes off the shelf. I wonder if you are doing something like that. I know I saw you talking to Dr. That guy from Texas that chiropractors run and all that frequency treatment. Yep. You weren’t doing anything that and incorporating that in your manufacturers or your studies. So
2:43:00
I love you man like
2:43:01
so you’re asking me questions right now that I really technically right now because of the bullshit you know, in the world. Like I can’t honestly say from a standpoint of like, let me just say yes. Like, I can’t go into the details. So I actually so I’m a huge obviously applied kinesiology guy too. I’ve actually kind of like personally expanded in my opinion beyond that, in that I actually have ways to ask my higher self an answer the question is this, you know, in my highest and best interest to quote unquote, use this right, you understand this? Yeah, and I now like bio energetically, you know, I get hair stand up on my right arm or I get hairs, like peeled down on my left side of my neck. So there’s a few places that I assess. But yeah, I mean, basically, that is the next frontier of, you know, supplement creation, bio regulator creation, because you’re basically connecting the divine to the formulation of it. But you got to be also careful of like the manufacturing process and the raw materials because as you know, like see the problem with the supplement industry and I’ve you know, been outspoken about this because I’ve been in many supplement I’ve been bought out by companies and bought out by my partners. It’s very difficult to trust the manufacturers of supplements because they can give you a 99.9% efficacy, batch and then the next time if you don’t test you don’t know what you’re getting. So how can you be you know, honest, transparent, authentic to the marketplace, if you truly can’t vouch for the viability and the efficacy of the product so I’m not really I haven’t been really big into the supplement space once I figured out that there was like a massive spiritual disconnect in doing that, but with bio regulators, you nailed it because you’re talking about now a totally different you’re essentially talking about a drug that is considered a supplement, by grass by the regulations but it’s still tissue specific and side effect free. So if you can actually now you know, bio, energetically create that, you know, talk about like, basically, you know, give a spiritual governance to it, you know, through applied kinesiology or through you know, higher, let’s just call it higher torsion physics. You’re giving it even that much more. You’re basically energizing it even more.
2:45:28
Good, good. Good. I got it. I’m glad you’re at done. Thank you. And thank you for this presentation.
2:45:36
Yeah, you’re absolutely welcome. Thank you for watching it. One more quick question.
2:45:39
Doc. Shell Stein has a question. On B 12. Does Metformin affect b 12 or methyl?
2:45:47
Yeah, so so. So basically all the B vitamins and the cofactors again, folate and the fi nine. So in women it definitely can also drop. What is it not iron but ferritin. So just so again, you have to take a very profound be multi spectrum and again, for me, the best one out there is djaro. It’s not expensive and it’s a high quality. You know, I’ve tested it independently myself and it’s, it’s got all the cofactors and all the B vitamins that you need, and that’s really all you need to do. And, you know, the clinical research shows that Metformin 18 150 milligrams a day is kind of like the net saturation in the tissue. I take two I take two grams, I take a gram bed, and my wife takes 250 M and pm but like, you know, if you’re, you know, a six foot guy or 510 guy and you’re 180 pounds or higher, there’s no reason you can’t take two but titrate start lower and titrate up. I think most guys can start at 505 100 and women can start to get that’s that’s my recommendation.
Bill Clearfield 2:46:52
I don’t know what that is.
2:46:55
Somebody’s off mute.
Bill Clearfield 2:47:04
Me and
2:47:06
all right. I could have been the CIA they were listening but I
Bill Clearfield 2:47:13
think it’s Yeah, I don’t have anybody on except you me and
2:47:16
probably listening. I mean, that’s not that’s all the time they listen to everything. You know that it’s an active calm job. It’s an active calm and all points and dives. Yeah, we know that.
2:47:29
Name of the PTSD peptide.
2:47:33
The PTSD peptide is p e 22. Or, I mean again, any of the stronger ones, cerebral ISON and cortex. And now cortex is not in my book. And that’s kind of like a tragic oversight that when we wrote the book in January and published it in February 1, there was no way to get cortex in. And again, it’s more of a bio regular that is a peptide but there are research companies out there selling it as an injectable. Peptide and it definitely works just as good. And according and this is kind of hot off the presses. According to my business partner who I would consider like one of the top three experts in the world on bio regulators and peptides Nick Andrews, he says the injectable bio regulators are out of this world so so check this out. There’s an injectable by a regulator that regenerates heart tissue, I swear to God. So I mean, you want to talk about putting the cardiologist out of business and taking stents and saying that ain’t happening anymore. You inject these by regulators like literally right into the heart and you completely regenerate a dead heart or a broken heart or vascular really diseased hearts insane
2:48:41
So you mean you can do same thing for the kidneys? up every
2:48:45
every so So theoretically, and again, you know, the rot if you could read Russian research, you would prove this because they got 50 years of research with this. But theoretically, every single organ system there is a bio regulator for it, and it absolutely will regenerate
2:49:03
the organ system. Now,
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you know what levels of decay will it get it back to healthy or normal? I don’t know. I mean, I’m thinking that’s going to be on an individual end user. And obviously, there are certain levels of no return. But for an average aging normal person who has, you know, a defective kidney, an enlarged prostate, which is all of us buck, right? Like how many of us right now would literally love to go and sleep an entire night without having to wake up and take a piss. You know what I’m saying like I mean, there’s not many of us so but like in the people that I’ve spoken to 10 day course of this prostate by a regulator I think it’s called testo Luton. Don’t hold me to that. I don’t know the names of them, like I said yet, but this guy is a 63 year old guy. And him and I have been I’ve been consulting with him for like seven years. He’s a lawyer, and he’s had a, you know, a PSA of like, 3.8 you know, forever. He has no cancer or nothing, but he’s just had a swollen prostate. He’s not he’s actually pretty healthy guy. He started the bio regulator and he took it, It’s 10 day it’s a 10 day window in a 30 day cycle and then you take 30 days off and then you do tend to again, day at his PSA went down to point six and he literally says that he literally goes and sleeps his entire night now
2:50:20
62 years old.
2:50:23
It’s insane. Now there are 1000s of people in Russia who’ve been using these things who swear, who get the exact same results. This guy is an American guy. He bought these things in February before they ran out of stock. And he sends me messages and I’m just like, fuck dude is insane. Would you are you willing to go on the record on this? He goes, absolutely. So I mean, like, imagine what they’re capable of doing for again, all the various organ systems and again, they’re tissue specific, and they’re orally dosed. And again, we know that injectable is probably even stronger but the orals work just as well as the injectables for what we from what we understand so I mean, you guys can see, you know, obviously, the, the, the permutations of this, you know, at a meta level is just it’s it’s beyond a really understanding. I mean, it will obviously change medicine in ways that we can’t really comprehend.
2:51:18
So, your experience, how long does it take cerebral icing to work that the, you know, there’s the significant improvement?
2:51:26
I mean, again, it depends on the stage, you know, of the disorder or the disease, but you know, there are definitely people that see, see improvement within 90 days. I mean, again, it really depends on the level, you know, an advanced and end stage Alzheimer’s patient, probably you can’t, I mean, are you going to see anything but if you get it in early stages, you can definitely get people to remember who their kids were, when they’re not able to otherwise.
Bill Clearfield 2:51:54
We had a study where I don’t remember what the dose was, but the the recovery time, oh, CVA using cerebra license at 21 days was the equivalent of someone who was not had not used anything at 100.
2:52:09
Exactly, exactly. Yeah, no, it’s unreal. I mean, I guess that I mean, it’s they block it for a reason.
2:52:16
They really do.
Bill Clearfield 2:52:18
All right, Jay, I think we’re gonna let you go.
2:52:21
Well, you guys I appreciate you guys so much. Yeah. No, it was amazing. Thank you, Bill. I mean,
Bill Clearfield 2:52:26
so much. We definitely want to have you back. Oh, by the way, just real quick. So next week, we’re going to have Dr. Tanel. back with us again. He does the integrative immune immunology and he does a really nice job of that. And we’re talking with him about he’s got a three day in house course or in person course and a six week online course and we’re trying to coordinate with him to bring it to our our group for a reasonable reasonable, cost. Awesome thing so we’ll hear about that next week. And, Jay, we’ll be in touch for sure. For sure. If we ever do a live one again, we want to have you with us so
2:53:17
Okay, awesome. Yeah, I’d love to I’d love to be there and you know, this is the beginning as I like to say the golden age but you know, it’s where we place our consciousness right now. Right? So place our consciousness on resonance and improving this planet and let the fucking demons do what they’re gonna do. And they can have their own timeline and we’ll have our timeline, but our timeline is healing the planet. Simple,
Bill Clearfield 2:53:36
right? Okay, Amen. All right. What do you have to say to that John?
2:53:40
Is there a man on target?
Bill Clearfield 2:53:43
Yeah, okay. I’ll get I’ll get this up as soon as I can. It’s it’s a pretty long one. So we may have a little bit of a delay, usually get them get them up within 24 hours, maybe a little bit longer, but we’ll have it up within 48 hours. On on our website, and we’ll, we’ll twist Jay’s arm to get the slides. And we’ll we’ll get you we’ll get you the contact info Jay.
2:54:09
Okay, awesome, man. I appreciate you guys all great John. Reach out to me, bro. We talk let’s talk
Bill Clearfield 2:54:16
Okay, goodnight. Bye bye. Thank you.