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SPEAKERS
Bill Clearfield
00:00
While she’s working, I don’t know. I don’t know but it’s hard to say too it’s like what if you’re going to do this to this job? What’s going to happen with the next one? Better job yeah. So dredges need to process whatever she has written down well Yeah.
Bill Clearfield 00:23
When did the last
00:24
thing it just went today which by the way, they didn’t pay me my my sick pay that you told me to put in now. So I got I got shorted quite a bit.
Bill Clearfield 00:34
You did? $4,400
00:37
Yeah, I didn’t get that pain as far as I know. Okay. All right.
00:44
All right. Your V M Yes. Y There we go. Hi there. How are you?
Bill Clearfield 00:51
I’m having the time of my life and you
00:54
standing. Good. And
Bill Clearfield 00:57
I want to thank you for the honorarium you sent me. It was more than generous. It was unexpected.
01:05
Okay, I thought that’s what we agreed on. It’s like, Oh, it’s
Bill Clearfield 01:09
fine. I was fine with it. I was with me when do you need me again?
01:17
Probably next year or the year after? I try not to wear people out but it was your material was so good. It was really pretty amazing.
Bill Clearfield 01:28
Now, now that I know I got the lay of the land, we can, you know, I’ll be able to do do a few more, you know, jokes and, you know, be a little bit more entertaining. So,
01:38
well, it’s our group is pretty, I’d say geeky is not an excessive word. That’s that’s pretty
01:49
kinky, geeky geeky okay. Yeah.
01:53
content is content is great. They’re fine with that jokes are okay.
Bill Clearfield 01:59
Well, we have to you know, like usually like to do a Jackie Mason routine if I can. So as part of Jackie Mason was
02:06
thought of as Jackie Gleason. Jackie.
Bill Clearfield 02:10
Jackie Mason was was an old an old 50s and 60s Comedian.
02:17
Wow. Hey, I’ve got a intro to FSM set of slides that I usually show. How is this supposed to work? Am I supposed to
Bill Clearfield 02:30
share screen down there at the bottom sheet says Share Screen. Oh, there we go. Yeah, when you do that, and then you share screen and it’ll your screen should come up whenever you’re
02:41
ready. When we’re ready. When we’re
Bill Clearfield 02:43
ready. So our folks usually straggle in. Most of them show up right around five to 510. Yeah, I usually have a couple of announcements and it’s five of now. We usually end up anywhere from 20 to 40.
02:59
Okay, there’s our usual
Bill Clearfield 03:00
group. That’s so, so just relax for a few minutes. And how’s your new clinic? By the way,
03:09
that clinic is great. We’re still in a soft opening phase. So I still haven’t sent out the email to the waiting list and it’s just a matter of me having time to do that. The chat recording Okay. The other challenges here at home have been interesting. My husband’s really sick and kind of juggling all of the balls has been challenging, but it’s the clinic is open. It’s I’m seeing I’ve been seeing patients for a couple of weeks. It’s nice to be back to work.
Bill Clearfield 03:50
You go on those speaking tours for what three, four weeks at a time.
03:56
I go to Poland June 1. Arrive in Italy on the 10th teach a five day course seminar from the 12th to the 19th No 1212 1314 1516 12 and 16. I have the 17th off and then we do an advanced for 18th and 19th. And then I have two weeks at Borgo divino and Italy in Tuscany. It’s amazing. And then September, I’m in London, then Dublin, then Germany, and I think I’ve gone from September 1 October 5 or sixth keeps me you know Yeah, I see that. It’s pretty fun. The German I mean, the London and Italy seminars are ours and we get practitioners, mostly from Europe. come from the US because I tell people it’s like I don’t care who comes I’m going to Italy don’t want to come come 27 people show up and I have to work. So but it’s it’s usually a really good group and it’s a beautiful setting. The course goes until about 1212 30 And then we have lunchtime by the pool and do the afternoon and bathing suits and cover ups. Yeah, it’s pretty it’s pretty fun. And then London is when we alternate between London and Chester and we miss Chester while London and then Chester for the two years at COVID. And so we’re back in or back in this year. And then I go over to Dublin and catch up with our students over there.
Bill Clearfield 05:52
So true international star.
05:56
I don’t know about a star but it’s we have we started out with 25 practitioners, we’ll actually less than that 10 People bought machines in 1997. And we now have 4000 practitioners in 23 countries. And that’s what happens when you just show up. You know, I just they ask I show up, they show up we talked
Bill Clearfield 06:20
they use it to like the Field of Dreams.
06:23
Kind of like that if you build an account
Bill Clearfield 06:29
so Okay, we got a couple more minutes and then doctors their news pictures right under yours has a little announcement to make before we start okay. Hello, everyone. Hi there. Just a couple. A couple of more minutes doctors there and okay, I know
06:44
I have a question. It’s been 12 minutes just waiting to get in but if there’s any problems tonight, what know to get into the session. So I just want to
Bill Clearfield 07:02
I don’t think so. We’re getting people showing up here. So this is the usual they straggle in now.
07:10
Everybody from
Bill Clearfield 07:20
the doctor doctors Aaron’s in Toronto taking this and I’m not sure a doctor or tells from zactly,
07:32
Maryland, Maryland
07:35
Dr. Towns from Maryland to
07:43
SoCal. It was like, wow, like there’s no depth. There is no she kept on raving about even Yeah. Yeah, Kevin.
08:16
I’m here in Reno with you, Bill. I know that. Hey, just wanted to let everyone know know, heartedly for the effort and stuff you put in, you know, to putting on the conference. It was really outstanding.
Bill Clearfield 08:32
I appreciate it. I’m still in recovery mode.
08:35
Well, you know, it was it was a lot of stuff in a condensed period of time, but it was really well done. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Bill Clearfield 08:48
The only like my one complaint was that as you know, right at the beginning, the internet went out and we did our first two first two speakers and I jumped in with a lecture and in the I got I got the evaluations from some of the some of the, you know, attendees said that my my lecture seemed to be rushed and not well thought out.
09:16
I never heard it before. I know the thing is, though, like I say, in spite of the hotel sabotage attempt, it went off well. I kept thinking it was nine and I kept doing everything on our computer and it didn’t work,
Bill Clearfield 09:31
not internet and that place was no good. We will not be back there, that’s for sure.
09:37
But again, thank you very much. Yes,
Bill Clearfield 09:43
so, okay, um, it’s a little bit after five and our speaker tonight is Carol McMahon, who is just a terrific person. She’s up there in the upper left. She runs an outfit called frequency specific microcurrent. And she’s gonna explain what that is. It actually came from some old osteopaths, right and all that old osteopathic physician and you know that our group here is the American Osteopathic society rheumatic diseases. So my friend before you start though, Carol, so I went, doctors Aaron and I had been conspiring together and we’re going to make a little announcement. Right about now or at least the start. Well, we will repeat it. So I’m gonna turn it over to her. Okay, and only be about five minutes. Carolyn.
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Thank you so much. Hello, everyone. I think some of you know me. Dr. zeigen, from Toronto, Canada, the founder of hobby opportun nutrition clinic, integrative medicine and nutrition and also founder of bio quantum Academy in Canada. So I’ve been practicing for two decades. So when we me and Dr. Clearfield and so many other colleagues, we got to know each other through our global conferences is the global scientific guild conferences, both of us actually on a Organising Committee and that’s how I try to reach out to all most of my colleagues especially Dr. Clever to collaborate in the integrative medicine, that we are all almost like minded people and we have we share similar views. And the beauty of this is just so we can we can kind of get to more people. So this collaboration, actually I talked about in collateral and we both kind of agreed on it. So every last Tuesday of March of the month, because I think Dr. Phillips is having this educational platform every Tuesday evening. So the last Tuesday of the month, I’m going to have a talk. So as a homeopathic nutritionist, I would like to bring the knowledge that I have gathered to all of you. I’m sure that you you your mind know as much as I know but it’s good to review it. So I bring out we talked about the family of homeopathic domain, such as homeopathic medicine home toxicology, GMO therapy, and also in nutrition domain as well, such as Gemma therapy, oligo therapy and nutritional medicine. So this is going to be we just tried to just add to each other platform so we’re gonna expand our platforms a little bit further. So and whoever join our sessions, like four sessions, on that Tuesday, is getting a certificate from Dr. Clifford and from my institution as well. So it’s a kind of joint certificate. So also offering courses on hormones, toxicology, GMO therapy and coming up with the chlamydia nutrition family. And this course is going to be offered from both of us from a joint platform from Dr. Clifford and myself. And the certificate of the full course is going to be signed by both of us. And whoever is is with Dr. Clifford effect. Dr. Burgess is part of the you know his platform also is going to be a coin sign person as well. So at this point, we’re going to try it on Tuesday, April 26. And see how the feedback will be and then we’ll go from there. So if you have any questions
Bill Clearfield 14:04
so the idea Dr. Burgess says that we’re going to try and get together a sort of a core curriculum and add a little bit more direction. I know that’s what you’ve been clamoring for. So towns great, absolutely
14:19
optically. Dr. Phil Dr. Clifford has his own platform. So whoever is, is involved, that’s his decision to do. But for my part, I’m the I’m the director of my institution, my academy and I’m going to be the person who signed the certificate.
14:40
By the way, I know that both of you have worked for decades, and have an enormous amount to share. And you already have it in order. Bill’s done everything you could do with videos, slides, information, really incredible stuff. And I know you have to so I’m glad you guys are doing this and you’re doing it from your heart, and you’re doing the best job that can be done. I just want to mention that we’re doing the Omega national program in October. So I’m hoping that kind of collaborations are talking to will be extended for this national meeting and also hope to tie in Harvard and a few of the Boston people there. So they don’t have to fly and get a hotel. They can just walk across the street and join us at our meeting where hopefully 1000s of people will meet and Bill you’re the leader of the hormones and I think they’re almost ready for it now and you’re ready for him.
Bill Clearfield 15:37
I’m not so sure but actually the the gal that has it all together and has video courses, you know, from from stem to stern as our speaker tonight so are we done doctors Aaron so
15:53
if you want to add Dr. Clearfield if you want to add
Bill Clearfield 15:56
that we’ll add in you know, we’ll add in as we go along. Okay.
16:00
Okay. It’s just a short announcement that expect me on April 26. And on
Bill Clearfield 16:08
Yeah, so we’re gonna we’re gonna sort of we’ll announce what it is we’re going to sort of have some focused, you know, that what we’ve been doing is, as you know, I’ve been, you know, pleading with folks to come on Tuesday nights to speak so, and it was Tuesday night so we’re going to have at least to start out the last Tuesday of every month, we’re going to have a focused lecture and sort of curriculum to follow. So you know, those of you who don’t know all of our all of our talks are recorded, except last week, I was so exhausted. I forgot. You know, I just gotten back from Vegas. It was it was audio recorded. It just wasn’t it just wasn’t video recorded. And it’s on our website. I’ll put the I’ll put the link down in the chat room. Oh, it is aos rd.org/webinars. It’s there. We’re still waiting for the IT folks. To to render the like the conference. Videos for us. And unfortunately, last year has gotten lost in sort of a well, we got cheated like we’ll just leave it at that. But that’s not going to happen this year. So they will be there and we do password protect them for 10 months so that those who paid for the conference, you know get get the full benefit of it. So including, if somebody can tell me how to get my we have we actually have Dr. Mikolas talk was two hours. It’s in my telephone and I don’t know how to get it out of my till. Someone knows how to do that. Let me know. And with that, we’re going to turn this over to this is Carolyn and Megan. It’s labeled Kevin green, but this is not Kevin over here. And Carol runs an outfit called frequency specific microcurrent. She pulled me last October or November and asked me to she somehow had gotten my traumatic brain injury slides. And when I come to one of her seven seminars, and we had a bang up time I started out by by telling the or her students that I really didn’t know what they did. But by the time we were done I had a pretty good idea. And
18:38
you can always try CVS or Walgreens they seem to be honoring me. If that doesn’t work, we could always do Matt down at solutions specialty at Henderson
18:47
okay
Bill Clearfield 18:56
go Sorry, I couldn’t find them. Okay, that was Dr. Gerber, by the way, Dr. Gerber. So, I’m gonna let you introduce yourself otherwise, I think this group is particularly will be interested in the in where you found the this machine and everything, you know, just, you know, a brief little little history there because, you know, we are osteopaths, so take it away.
19:24
Thank you. I was a pharmaceutical salesman for 16 years before I went to chiropractic college at the age of 42. And the Osteopath has were my favorite. To call on. I’m going to the easiest way to talk about frequency specific seminars is to just show you this slide presentation it’s it’s a it’s a paradigm in medicine that started in the that started in the 1920s. And it’s become a new paradigm in modern medicine that really changes outcomes. And that changes lives. Seriously so all of you are in clinical practice or research practice, and you have to ask what would happen to your practice or your personal health or your patient’s health as you could reduce inflammation normalize immune activation, reduce stress, stress hormones, reduce or eliminate central sensitization, spinal cord sensitization, activate the vagus nerve balance autonomic function and increase ATP by 500%. quickly without drugs or side effects. And there was a reasonable mechanism of action and some data. So frequency specific microcurrent we’re going to talk about for the next 40 minutes or so. It’s a new tool. You probably didn’t know you needed that does something you didn’t think was possible. The history is, to me fascinating because I was a western medicine trained. pharmaceutical rep. Went to chiropractic college because I was 42 and I had two little kids and didn’t make the cut. To get into medical school, thank goodness and there were no osteopathic colleges in Portland. So frequencies specific therapies were developed in the early 1900s In the US, England and and Europe, by MDs and mostly osteopath and they were used by 1000s of physicians until 1934. Abrams was just one of them. There were seven, probably five to 7000 in the US. So where am I there we go. So Madison labeled all of the alternative therapies, homeopathy, herbs, nutrition, everything we do now, as ineffective fakes in starting in about 1910 with the Flexner Report and 1917 they got more serious about it. 1925 They declared that drugs and surgery were the only tools of medicine and nutrition, herbs, homeopathy, and frequency therapies were outlawed. Every medical intervention except for prescription medication was made illegal and physicians who use these tools would lose their license. Practitioners, some of them went to jail. The devices went into the backroom got covered up with a sheet and the research and the history were lost those of you that have buried parent or grandparent, there’s grandfather’s library. What do you do with all of that? Research? It’s all gone, except for some that we found in the rare book room at the naturopathic College in Portland. But Harry van Gelder was an osteopath from England who bought a practice in 1946 that came with a machine and a list of frequencies it was built in 1922. So 1935 was when everything really went underground. So it was only 11 years later, Harry bought this practice, walked into the backroom, pulled the sheet off of the machine and found this list or frequencies under the machine. So there’s a number which we assumed was a frequency nine hertz and that was for allergy reaction or histamine.
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George Douglas was a chiropractor who worked with van Gelder in 1983. And he brought home a copy of the list and stuck it in a drawer. When I graduated from chiropractic college in 94. He moved and found this list in a drawer in 1995. And we started using it with a two channel analog precision microcurrent that was a offshoot of wings micromatic guy. So the thing I had to live with was that I have no idea how the frequencies were derived. Uncertain in the mechanism of action, the 1920s equipment was not my conference current, there was DC current back when wall current was direct, and the 1920s therapy was not FSM so I first used them in 1995 to treat muscle and nerve pain. The frequencies were first taught in 1997 because I had to find out if they were reproducible. It’s like okay, fine, I can melt trigger points, I can get rid of muscle pain and get rid of nerve pain. But is it real? It’s only real if it’s reproducible. So I taught the class badly in January, January 17 of 1997 and about 1015 practitioners, mostly chiropractors and nature pas bought machines from the local distributor and started using them and by June, we knew that the results we were getting in the clinic with muscle pain, were consistent, and the benefits are consistent and more important. The effects are teachable, and reproducible. If I was the only guy that could do this, it wouldn’t matter. Research and animals in humans and clinical results have accumulated over the next 20 years and we’ll go over some of those papers. So, all of you know that drugs and nutrients change cell function more or less like keys in a lock. So if you have a pathogen associated molecular pattern or damage associated molecular pattern, that land on a cell receptor, changes kinases, transcription factors, genetic expression, messenger RNA micro RNA, and that creates pro inflammatory cytokines. Well, if you stick ibuprofen in that receptor, it blocks the ability of that cell to produce prostaglandins. And so it is an anti inflammatory that acts like a candle lock. Frequencies seem to change so function with a signal kind of like your key remote. They have, and I say appear to because this is a testable model we don’t have we haven’t been able to find a genetic research company that will prove that the model is correct. The frequencies appear to change membrane receptor function and cell function electromagnetically. So your key remote or key fob sends a kidney signal exactly and only to your car. Your key fob opens only your car even if there are 12 identical cars in a row. Your remote only opens your car with a single frequency that is tuned exactly to your car. FSM seems to work like that was specific problems in specific types of cells. So we did animals Research at the University of Sydney in Australia with Vivian Reeves. She’s a PhD, veterinary science researcher and her her whole field of study for 20 years had been anti inflammatory drugs. So you paint arachidonic acid on a mouse is zero. Then you measure it with calipers, this little guy and then you give the mouse the the mouse that drug afterwards, drag the mouse give the mouse a drug afterwards or you do something before to try and reduce the amount of inflammation. So there’s a frequency 40 Hertz to reduce inflammation. And 116 hertz was the frequency on the list for the immune system and the first 10 mice they did. There was a 70% reduction in lipoxygenase mediated inflammation which is created by painting arachidonic acid on the mouse’s ears and Vivian shut down the lab. She sent everybody home
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because in 25 years of doing 20 years of doing this research, she hadn’t found any prescription or non prescription drug that reduce inflammation by more than 5%. So she everybody came back, alright. Somebody want to mute Thank you. So everybody came back the next day, everybody was in a separate room with shades drawn or paper on the windows. And with everybody blinded. There was a 62% reduction in lipid oxygenase mediated inflammation than they paint mirrors to a steroid on the mouse’s ears, and there was a 30% reduction and Cox mediated inflammation which doesn’t sound that good, but that’s equivalent to injectable toradol when it was tested in the same animal model by the same researcher. And that’s when we found out this was done in 2000 2001. That’s when we found out that it’s a four minute time dependent response which ends up being important. It suggests that the cell signaling model is probably correct. So when she did she also turn the machine away from the guy who was treating the mice. This is Wayne Riley. He’s awesome. naturopath or osteopath and Australia and there is holding the mouse by the nape of the neck and by the tail. And she turned the machine away from him and put in a placebo frequency. And it’s a blinded placebo trial for reasons I’m still not clear about they, she wouldn’t publish it. She wasn’t close enough to retirement. So I had them try other frequencies and there was no reduction. So the current alone with just 1/10 or hurt, no reduction and inflammation. We used other frequencies that were from our list. 91 hertz is for mineral deposits, no reduction. Four minutes of the frequencies for trauma and rebooting so to speak and allergy reaction gave no reduction in swelling. And then in 2000 I treated the first group of 25 in a year Fibromyalgia associated with spine trauma. The fact that about 27 the published literature says 27% of fibromyalgia patients get it associated with spine trauma are my clinical research says it’s closer to 40 and I stumbled across a frequency combination this is the pain diagram and it is characteristic of this kind of fibromyalgia stumbled across a frequency combination 40 hertz on Channel A and 10 hertz on Channel B for the spinal cord because they have full body pain and nothing made sense. This is not regional it’s system wide and it had to be associated with spinal cord I thought I tried it once and at the end of 25 patients we knew pretty clearly that it was 100% effective. Only one frequency reduced pain only one frequency reduced inflammation. And they came in with their pain as an average of a 7.4 out of 10 and left at 1.3 out of 10 and I presented this at the National Institutes of Health one of my students was as a physiatrist. at NIH, she has researches in the area of myofascial pain, and he invited me to do a grand rounds and I had these 25 patients and I said to the 3035 is assembled
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clinicians
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I’ve done this 25 times it’s completely predictable, reproducible and nobody’s gonna believe it unless I have data. While tell Terry Phillips came up and said you tell me what they you give me a spot of blood on blotter paper, and I will tell you what’s changing. And what we found, thanks to Terry Phillips was that all of the inflammatory cytokines were reduced in 90 minutes, getting them to recover from getting them out of pain was the easy but the recovery program was individualized so they had FSM to keep their pain down. Physical therapy because all of them had disc bulges usually in the cervical spine. They had to be reconditioned go for a walk spinal stabilization. Had to repair the gut. The adrenals then the thing that takes the longest is medication management and withdrawal and it’s pretty simple setup. towel around the neck. We use wet towels to conduct the current because it’s easy, inexpensive and we do cover them up with the blankets so they stay warm. But this is what we found out from Terry Phillips in one and the index patient. I don’t have that slide. But in all, we published 54 cases interleukin one was reduced from an average of 330 down to 80. That P value has two zeros on a 410 F alpha went down 305 Down to 78 interleukin six to 39 down to 76 substance P 180 to 54 And the interesting thing about substance P is that it is manufactured in the spinal cord and transported peripherally there are some substance P neurons peripherally, but the primary generator for substance P is in the spinal cord. So David Perlmutter when he saw this data at IFM. I presented it at Institute for Functional Medicine symposium in 2000. He said Well, if it change if you change substance B it means that that 10 hertz is actually affecting the spinal cord and that P value has three zeros. But endorphins go up these patients get so stone they can talk went from a point to two so that’s a tenfold increase just about P value has two zeros and a three and the pain went down from an average of 7.4 to 1.4 and 54 patients. That p value is three zeros and a one. And the statistics actually are six zeros and a one. But the statistician is British and he said that anything more than three zeros is just showing off. So, in medicine, inflammatory cytokines are hard to change when they change slowly they when they change they change slowly over months. So it was only 40 hertz on a and 10 hertz on B that reduced all of the inflammatory cytokines and the pain it’s very specific, nothing else works. And it reduced them all by 10 to 20 times in 90 minutes. And when they returned the few cases that I had, they returned at a much reduced level. Okay, all of you ought to be asking how can a frequency or a pair of frequencies do that? Well, here’s the idea. Then NIH data shows that interleukin one, interleukin six TNF alpha, interferon gamma CGRP, which I didn’t publish substance P and endorphins all change. Well, they’re all made inside a cell in the spinal cord. The only thing that makes sense as a model is that only changes in cell signaling could normalize all of them so quickly.
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So cell receptors, as I’m sure you all know, respond to external factors like bleeding bacteria, tissue fragments, that activate kinases that change transcription factors that change genetic expression to create inflammation. Inflammation doesn’t come from space comes from every single cell in your body that has a receptor that can sense all of these promoters. And the data suggests that cell receptors respond to frequencies signals to turn that inflammation off, even in the presence of infection. So if a patient has an occult infection that you think is just due to inflammation, the frequencies will override the signal from the bacteria and turn the inflammation off even in the presence of an infection. So microcurrent devices were approved in the 70s as if they were 10s devices because that was the cheapest way to do it. They’re not 10s It’s 1000 times less current, it’s physiologic. There’s an over the counter use for aesthetics. It’s used for wound healing. There’s over 200 papers on micro amperage current and wound healing to use for pain control. But they vary widely. They have different wave torrents, they have one channel they have tube channels, there’s combined units, ultrasound interferential, the frequency up until 1997 wasn’t important. There was a limited number of frequencies three tenths of a hertz, 330 hertz, 100 hertz, or there was a sweep of frequencies in a device called an accurate scope. So the FSM units have to have two independent channels where you can set a frequency on Channel A for a condition frequency on Channel B for a tissue, and it has to have a screen that shows what’s running and the frequencies have to be three digits because there’s a frequency for attendance, that’s 191 hertz and a frequency for bursa that’s under 95. And the question that nobody knows the answer to is how somebody in 1922 decided that the frequency for a bursa was 195 we have no way to know all of that is an grandfather’s trash heap. There were animal studies done in 1982 by NOC Chang, and he showed that as long as the current was under 500 micrograms, it increased ATP production by 500%. increase protein synthesis by 70%. That increased amino acids transport by 40% and then seekers solid up on his work in 2001 and 2002. And she demonstrated that it increased cyclic campeon human lymphocytes and she had data that showed that it activates signal transduction which means that it helps the cell communicate with other cells better. So frequency specific microcurrent is not about the device back in 1997. We are the only game in town. Now there’s a lot of Chinese knockoffs. Our devices are made in the US but FSM isn’t about the device. It’s about the frequency effect. So FSM improves healing. This is diabetic patient, obviously necrotic second toe, and he had a seven centimeter wound on the medial side you have a lot of edema, sensation loss in seven out of 10 areas. And it was all healed in six weeks and six to 11 treatments. If you’ve treated diabetic patients you know that they were just waiting for this to get worse and that to get worse so they could do the amputations on one day. At the end of one month is painless, eliminated this sensation was completely normal. This is unattended context, the knees context of the feet. And as you know, diabetic neuropathy is is all about ischemia. So the frequencies we use for the first year didn’t work because I was treating the knee the nerves what we found was if you treat the blood vessels, it gets better. And we haven’t found anybody that doesn’t work on it and I can’t get anybody to fund a study about it. And skin anti aging this lady is pretty to begin with. Her husband is a
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plastics and maxillofacial reconstructive surgeon. And so he’s the one that did this presentation I think in about 2012 and pretreatment you can see here post treatment jolliness is gone the orbital lines are gone. The best thing is the labial folds flattened out. There was a study done at University of Washington and rabbits, where there was a 39% increase in blood supply after 20 days of treatment. So it’s what you do when you have a graduate student that needs a paper, a dissertation. So they just ran three tenths of a hertz on rabbit. So they biopsied the bunny, treated it five days a week for four weeks. And with just three tenths of a hertz, just the current not the frequencies. And there was a 39% increase in blood supply 14% increase in collagen but for osteopath, those of you that do physical medicine. There’s a 48% increase in elastin and that’s what does this. Right? elastin is what keeps scar tissue from being so restrictive and damaging. So that’s just the current. We had one practitioner in Australia who had a patient come in with acute alcohol intoxication on a Monday morning fatigue nausea digestive problems. He went on a bender over the weekend but clearly he was a chronic alcoholic. His initial blood levels is ASD was 75 they didn’t do anything except tell him to stop drinking and gave him some nutritional supplements. And as you know, when as he is elevated, it’s elevated because the liver cells are breaking apart and the enzymes are flowing out and the blood supply and acute alcohol poisoning you expect as t all of the liver enzymes to go up for 10 to 14 days and then come down over about a two to two and a half week period. So it wasn’t surprising that two days later on Wednesday, his as T had gone from 75 to 580 to a LT 222 to 547 GGT went from 383 to 709. And on Wednesday morning what’s his name? Joe Savage is a nurse and nature path. He did a 60 minute treatment with FSM for the frequency with the frequency to reduce inflammation in the liver in the morning, so had him tested at nine o’clock. treated him from 10 to 11. And at noon, had him go back to the hospital to get tested. And his s t went from 582 to 36 and four hours. That’s not possible. And I’d say it was a lab error except that it’s now been replicated in three different clinics. In the US in the last five years. Postoperatively we don’t have anything published in post op but this is day one after a mid face brow and lower facelift. I don’t think she had her eyes done but it’s good surgical technique drains compression eyes, all of that. And one of our practitioner did an 80 minute treatment immediately post op and we’ll talk about maybe a four hour window and then treated her daily for seven days. So this is day two. This is day four. You can see there’s a little bit of bruising in the mid face some swelling, day five there was swelling here but still no bruising, day six. Little bit of bruising right there. day nine cheeks are swollen again but I think that’s because her hair is back. I think that’s optical but this is day 11 And those of you that have seen patients after full facelift, nobody looks at good 11 days after a full facelift. So that’s the only one we have. We’re looking for practitioners to publish things postoperatively because you can do a hip replacement on somebody I’ve had both my hips replaced I used FSM immediately after the surgery and I didn’t bruise there’s a frequency that dissolves abnormal scar tissue. I did a study in 2003 at Mercy St. John’s in Springfield, Missouri.
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Every patient has statistically significant permanent increases and range of motion after three one hour treatments. So they measure PTS measured the patients on Monday and Friday and I treated them tuesday wednesday thursday. This is a patient in Taiwan. It was three years chronic full thickness burn he was burned in a fireworks accident as clothing caught on fire and he had 80% of his body burned. His elbow was stuck and 15 degrees of flexion before treatment. After one hour. He his elbow was straightened and someplace on the internet. There’s video of him having his foot stuck in 90 degrees of dorsiflexion and at the end of 60 minutes he’s able to complete the plantar flex and dorsiflex it. We have a paper published where we dissolve scar tissue after an ulnar nerve transposition and a patient that had had 11 physical therapy treatments. Let’s see what is this nine years after the original surgery has painted incoming payments of five as outgoing payments for his Taos went from 86 to 92. But a year later his pain was a seven. His house was down to 80 So it was worse than it was and he started and basically you run the current from where the nerve starts to where the nerve ends and pain level was zero at discharge his house was 100% and we waited a year to publish the paper and the results were identical at the end of one year. So it was maintained dissolving scar tissue was one of the easiest things we do. So yeah, you gotta be asking How would a frequency change conditions in specific tissues? Well, the effect of the frequencies is immediate. It happens in 10 to 20 seconds. The tissue gets soft, we call it smush. Patients and practitioners can both feel warmth or changes in pain and these all stop when the frequency is finished. And then there are lasting effects if there’s a good environment for them. So we’re all based in science. Science starts with observation. So how does science explain what it is that you see when you do frequency specific microcurrent the fact of the matter is that the human body is a quantum biological system that we throw that word quantum around pretty loosely but it actually makes sense in this setting. living tissues, biochemicals. Okay, what does that mean? Well, there are molecules, atoms and subatomic particles that are held together by electromagnetic bonds. Citric Acid Cycle is molecules organized. So Newtonian physics describes large objects really well, but it falls apart at the molecular level. So your body is a large object made of molecular substances, molecules, atoms and subatomic particles that are all held together by electromagnetic bonds. And every bond has a frequency at which it resonates. So this is insulin. We think of it as a liquid that’s produced by the pancreas. But it’s not it’s molecules held together by Electromatic, electromagnetic bonds. So there’s another piece of this and that is that water lines the gel inside the cells and form structures that act as a semiconductor. So, back when I took biology, we thought that the cell was full of liquid. And the fact is, you can cut a cell and nothing drains out. It’s like jelly. It’s lined with a matrix. That is lined with water. And the water molecules flicker and there’s a hole in the outer shell that because the water molecules are held in place, that hole is in exactly the same place all the time because the way it flickers that makes it very much like a silicon crystal. Okay. Silicon is a semiconductor because there’s a hole in exactly the same place in this silicon matrix.
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So your body’s an electromagnetic system that looks solid, but the cells function as a semiconductor network. We don’t think of it that way. Because you don’t have to think about it that way. I had to figure it out because I’m using current charge and frequencies as information. And it turns out that it works because the body’s semiconductor. So what’s resonant? Resonance is the tendency of a system or a bond to oscillate at large amplitudes in response to some frequencies but not others. At the resonant frequencies very small forces can produce very large amplitude vibrations. So they found out in the 17 or 1800s, as soldiers marching and step across a bridge back then it was wooden bridge or maybe even a metal bridge could collapse the bridge because their footfalls created a resonant frequency that matched the frequency that held the bridge together. Resonance effects explains the immediate effects. Why does this stuff work so fast? When a singer sings a note that breaks a lead crystal graphs that works? Not by volume, but because there’s a precise frequency holding lead atoms together? As long as the matrix A crystal matrix is 70% of lead? The lead atom bonds vibrate with the singers know if it is precise and sustained. The lead atoms vibrate and the crystal just comes apart because the lead atoms vibrate instead of being bonded to each other. Thankfully, for me, the number one basic principle of science is observe, verify, repeat. Predict. If it happens again, you observe that the number two basic principle of sciences you can’t throw out the data because it doesn’t matter model. I didn’t have a model in 1995. When I started using this that said that frequencies were going to do this, even I don’t believe didn’t believe what it was it was saying. And the third basic principle of sciences you can change the model and start over. So FSM changes tissue quickly, but it needs manual and exercise therapy, nutritional lifestyle changes for lasting permanent results. So everybody on this in this group had to take physics, right? Well, you remember from thermodynamics, the concept of energy wells and stable states. That’s what explains the lasting effects. So water, same substance, as long as the surrounding value is zero decrease, it’s solid. You add energy to the system, you change the surrounding milieu to something between one and 99 degrees centigrade. And water is completely stable as the liquid add more energy to the system. As long as the surrounding environment is 100 degrees centigrade. Waters completely stable as steam. So the correct frequencies create instantaneous changes that change the state of the tissue and those changes can be permanent. As long as the patient’s metabolism, attitude. body mechanics support the change in state. So it takes nutrition sometimes it takes emotional support, most of the time for physical medicine especially it takes exercise therapy and reconditioning. So FSM treatment, we’ve been using it actually since 1995, but it’s been taught since 1997. It’s low risk. It’s reproducible. Thank goodness for me, it’s teachable. And so if I teach somebody how to do it, and it suits their mind and their skill set, it’s reproducible. It’s reliable, non evasive, comfortable, can’t feel the current 500 or 300 micro amps 100 micrograms is sub sensory. You can’t even feel it. It is billable because the devices are approved as tennis devices and the equipment is reliable, inexpensive as equipment. goes. So
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publish papers. I was married to David Simon some of you may have heard of Trevelyan Simon’s the trigger point manual. David Simon’s fell in love with me in 2005 because it made treating trigger points. Easy. And we were married in 19 in 2006, and he passed away in 2010. So he had shingles in the ophthalmic branch of five. When he was 85. I treated him with the frequency we had for shingles at the time. There’s only one frequency pair. I ran it for an hour around his neck and across the top of his head. He was pain free and when our pain did not return. I treated him again that night in our room for two hours. And the lesions were gone in 48 hours. These days. There are three pairs required. That’s published. And it’s on our website under published papers of 50 cases of cervical myofascial pain published in 1998 4.7 years average chronicity patients sort of served as their own control. It was 50 cases but 88% of them and failed. With three to six other practitioner types, took 11 visits in eight weeks because I didn’t know what I was doing in 1998. We don’t back then I treated the muscle these days we treat what causes the muscle to be tight. pain level went from an average of seven to an average of a two lumbar myofascial pain. This was published by Leon che Tao in another well known osteopath and a dear friend in JBM. T eight years chronicity range was two months to 20 years 87% had failed with three to six other practitioner types. We figured if they were going to have a placebo effect, they would have had it with somebody else. So it took six visits in six weeks to get their pain from an average of seven to an average of a two neuropathic pain and of 20. Average chronicity was seven years every single patient of the 20 experienced pain reduction average of a seven down to about a two second treatment. They came back in at about a five and left it less about a one and so some of it held and eventually 65% of them fully recovered in about five treatments. If anybody here has ever had neuropathic pain or treated a patient with neuropathic pain, you know, that’s not that easy. What’s interesting is that 25% of them terminated care prior to recovery. And I think it’s because well back then I actually didn’t know that I needed to deal with spinal cord and central sensitization. And if you’ve been in pain for seven years, and it’s gone in 60 minutes, they actually don’t know who you are. We have the ability to create an identity crisis. It’s more or less unparalleled in medicine at all it transposition surgery. We talked about that before. This was published by a group in India to retrospective case control study pre and post treatment numerical pain scale, in low back and neck pain, low back pain 213 in the FSM group 167 with low back pain 46 with neck pain, the control group was 78 FSM results considering all objective measures. P value was point 006 nerve neck pain, no significant difference and I checked with them because I didn’t have anything to do with this study. And it was published in JBM tea but I didn’t even get to review it I was too busy. And it turns out that they were using the wrong protocol for neck pain so they’re going to redo the neck pain arm have that delayed onset muscle soreness post exercise muscle soreness, Alan published a paper in 1999 that showed that micro amperage current nonspecific micro amperage current doesn’t work. There is no preventative and there is no treatment for post exercise muscle soreness. So this study was done by Denise Curtis in Ireland in 2010.
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After exercise the frequencies that were used were the frequencies to stop bleeding to help prepare the micro hairs and the connective tissue and the tendons reduce inflammation and the blood supply the fascia the tendons and then support vitality but this is the data at 24 hours the treated leg so they had one treated like one sham leg treated like the pain was a one the sham leg was a five by then the patient was clear about which was which 48 hours treated like was 1.2 the sham was 772 hours point seven and the treated like sham leg was a four P value is three zeros and a five at all time measures and the thing with delayed onset muscle soreness is nothing else works. No drug. No nothing. Nothing else works for delayed onset muscle soreness. So this is the one study we have that gives you an idea about what’s possible postoperatively this was a 38 year old three year chronic stroke patient. She had typical sensory motor spasticity she had sleep apnea. And at the age of 38. adenoids and tonsils were huge. They removed those this was about at the 20 minute mark, we ran the frequency to increase secretions in the sensory motor cortex that’s off that list. And at about 20 to 30 minutes, that’s her her hand was no longer spastic or cramped. She could bend her wrist. This is a physical therapist that comes came with me to Taiwan. And she’s doing typical ranging for a stroke patient while we’re running and the currents running from the neck to the patient’s feet. You can see she’s a little bit floaty here when the frequency is correct, they get kind of stoned. This is at the end we took the current off and she was able to maintain our fist when she raised her hand her fist still got spastic. I didn’t believe that it would last so we treated her this day was a Wednesday. I taught the advanced course in Taiwan over the weekend. And I wanted to see her this is Monday morning. Her range was maintained from the previous Wednesday we treated her for another 60 minutes. And that is her arm behind her head. And those improvements were maintained until she had a subsequent stroke. Because nobody told her to use a CPAP. So clinically, I mean, why wouldn’t you try this? It’s low risk. As long as you don’t drop the box in their foot, you’re not going to hurt them. The frequencies either work or they don’t work. If they don’t work, they just have no effect. The side effects had been transient, so people, you double somebody’s range of motion in 30 minutes and sometimes facettes or bone spurs. have an opinion about that. But every student is given precautions and contraindications. Fortunately for me medicines pragmatic it’s like well, does it work? And then they figured out the mechanisms later. So we use willow bark and aspirin for what hundreds, hundreds of years and they didn’t discover prostaglandin chemistry until Upjohn developed anvil in 1970 1970 71. So you got to happen ask well what happened to healing and everything you do as an osteopath. If you could reduce inflammation, lox inflammation by 60% lipoxygenase mediated inflammation is involved in every degenerative disease. Cox mediated inflammation isn’t joint joints and cardiac problems mostly by 30% reduce all of the inflammatory cytokines and increase ATP production by 500% and 30 minutes, what would happen? So I’ve taken the saying that FSM is a tool that makes medicine faster, more efficient, more effective, less expensive, for you and the patient and it improves patient outcomes. We teach a five day course seminar in the US the UK in Germany, we have two three day us modules and all of these are
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live stream we livestream them during COVID. There’s one five day in person course in the US there’s a five day in person course in the US, UK in Germany and Italy. If you want to go to Tuscany in June come join us to three day us module there’s a pain, an entry module for physical medicine practitioners and there’s a neuro visceral module for people with a more comprehensive or integrative medicine type of practice. And the in person seminars includes six hours of hands on practicum because using it is where you actually once you feel the tissue soften once you’ve in response to a particular frequency and nothing else. Once you feel that you can’t ever unsee it you can’t. You can’t unfill it. The video training includes four hours of individual practicum training with an FSM practicum instructor and we have them all over the world in the US, the UK and Germany primarily. So a little bit like taking a drink of water out of a firehose, you’re immediately competent, overwhelmed, but safe and what you don’t learn in the seminar. The frequencies will teach you afterwards. It’s I finally figured out after 20 years of doing this that the frequency that the job of the seminars to teach you how to think when you have frequencies and as a tool. So when you’re treating peripheral pain, or SIBO let’s say peripheral pain, you don’t even think about how would I reduce spinal cord sensitization and central sensitization because I don’t have a way to do that. Without for Sam, you said one frequency one device of little device to treat spinal cord sensitization because we know 40 intent does that we have all that data central sensitization, and then you treat the peripheral tissue when you’re treating SIBO or gastroparesis, or vocal cord dysphonia or any autoimmune disease never occurs to you to treat the vagus nerve because you don’t have a way to do that. If you’re treating an autoimmune disease, or SIBO, or gastroparesis. The only way to fix it is to turn the vagus nerve back on and that’s a whole nother conversation. So you’re overwhelmed but safe. The original learning curve is about three months but in the last year and I’ve been doing this 25 years and hundreds and hundreds of 1000s of patient experiences. And I’ve used frequencies this year that I’ve never used before in combination because of what a specific patient needed so we have advanced courses and that’s where Dr Clearfield lectured because we have frequency protocols for treating brain injuries. And the frequencies aren’t enough. So Dr. Clare fields lecture was what do you do when frequencies aren’t enough? Well you got to look at the endocrine effects. I found his slides somebody sent them to me. I contacted him he came in did a lecture. What do you do and frequencies aren’t enough while the other lecture that morning that afternoon was Dr. John Rasky. He’s an optometrist and FCO VD optometrist who talks about the uses of prism glasses and the visual system and brain injury patients. So my goal is to bring healing to every patient that wants it. By training practitioners, you can treat them, we have webinars, we have a podcast, we do workshops all the time that expense the equipment is inexpensive by any medical equipment standards, it’s us made RS is it’s FDA 510 K approved ISO certified and we finally got a CE mark. So, in short, FSM is a new tool you probably didn’t know you needed, that does something there’s no reason you should think it was possible.
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Wrote a book in 2000. That was published in 2017. Penguin Random House, and it’s Jim oschmann wrote energy medicine the scientific basis some of you might know of him he’s a bio physicist. And he he just loved it. He said it can’t put it down as a page turner and it’s a story of how FSM was developed, and how it is that it’s changing medicine by changing what’s possible. It’s not possible to get rid of nerve pain in 60 minutes, not when it’s seven years chronic and nerve pains, easiest thing we treat. So I have to warn you, frequency specific microcurrent and it’s gonna change your life, your health, your practice, and your outcomes. Each of you has your own specialty but as far as I’m concerned, my job is to make your job easier. And FSM is a tool that helps you do that. But it changes everything forever. And as a group. This is this is our mission statement, if you will. We are changing medicine, but you can only do that one patient at a time. We are all aware that this is a profession that took 50 years to learn to wash its hands and then we change lives. I just train one practitioner at a time I have traveled and traveled to Hartford, Connecticut, to teach a seminar to six practitioners. Four of them didn’t show up. One of them was a physiatrist from Cleveland Clinic in pediatric rehab and that practitioner recruited just by practicing just by treating pediatric patients. He recruited every PT at Cleveland Clinic pediatric rehab some of the adult pts and all of the MDS and DEOs. In at Cleveland Clinic, pediatric rehab. And the thing that makes my life the most fun is changing even one patient’s life. It changed the world. I think that’s what we’re all in medicine for.
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I think that’s it.
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We’re back to the beginning. How do I get out of this? So that’s a ha. All right. Now, what do I do?
Bill Clearfield 1:13:04
Thank you so much, Carol. That was That was terrific. And that was just a smattering of what our speaker brings brings to the table is truly astounding. I was there for four days and she had three three separate lectures going along to breakout rooms. She was teaching for two or three straight weeks, beginners advanced people. She’s got she’s going where are you going to Italy? You’re going to Italy you told us this summer and and the UK and it’s it’s quite a quite a fascinating subject.
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It gets addictive because it’s the one meeting where people talk to people that speak their own language. So you can talk to somebody at a tables we had special interest tables. of the second day at lunch. There was one group that just treated PTSD and there’s one special interest group for nerve pain can traumatic brain injuries and you can say to somebody was really pretty straightforward to as a 1410 and a 40 and 89 and then you just run 40 and 396.
Bill Clearfield 1:14:26
And it’s right I forgot. So those of you who remember a story written by Ray Bradbury called Fahrenheit 451 It was one of the first science fiction movie that was made into a movie it was very cheesy, special effects. But it was a society where you were not allowed to speak words you can only utter numbers. So yeah, they would they would that there would be one person would say the other 62 and the other one would say 147 And they would laugh. It was some sort of joke or something. So yeah, so
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there was that? Yeah, well, and the practitioners are so enthusiastic because they, they there’s something just so exciting. I mean, you could tell in your audience, they was anybody playing with their phone. They weren’t hanging on every word because as a group, we tend to just be completely obsessed with getting patients better. And they know that FSM and is is an essential component of that. But it’s it’s not enough by itself. You have to create a stable state. And it’s and the other thing is the other analog to it is people have called it electronic homeopathy. But I have to wait three weeks to see if it works. It’s 60 seconds and it either works or doesn’t. And you you can combine it with other frequencies and do multiple things at a time. So it’s pretty fun. I’m really glad you had a good time because we really enjoyed having
Bill Clearfield 1:16:07
well well the funnest thing for me was that was when you said when it was my turn to speak and he said, Well, we do what we do, but it’s not quite enough. So here’s the missing link, and then you introduce me so I quite enjoyed that. So I see a hand up for Dr. Gerber. I’m not sure why but I’ll talk to you or is this was just an accident. I’m not so. So if you’re there Dr. Gerber. We’re We’re all ears. If not, that’s okay. Anybody have any questions? So if you could in the chat, Carol, and I’ll pass your information on also if you want to just put down your contact information.
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Oh, thank you Dr. Burgess.
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Wonderful, wonderful information. Thank
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you. Welcome. Read the resonance effect for the rest of the story. It’s how this thing developed and came to be and then like chapter 10 was all written by patients. It’s it’s if I was the only one that could do it, or I was the only one that could help people wouldn’t matter. But chapter 10 was written by patients. So the resonance effect is your is your friend.
Bill Clearfield 1:17:35
Okay, Could you could you tell us one story though, because so you don’t know this? But so I’m from Philadelphia. Might have told you this. So I’m from Philadelphia and in 2004, the Philadelphia you know, we’re professional losers. And in 2000 and Florida, Philadelphia Eagles are going to the Super Bowl and their star receivers Terrell Owens, and the last game of the season he breaks his leg and he tears all sorts of ligaments. And he’s supposed to be out for a whole year. And it was kind of like, you know, a deflating moment. And tell us what happened. I read about it in your book. Yeah.
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Well, I had treated Terrell the year before when he was with San Francisco and his trainer called me on Monday morning. His personal trainer called me Monday morning and said Terrell has been hurt. He had an open spiral fracture the fibula, he tore the interosseous membrane. He Avulsed the deltoid ligaments in the lateral ankle, and he said, Terrell has been hurt, and he wants to play in the Super Bowl in six weeks. My cat rack is his chiropractor in Atlanta and hat rack says he’s not going to touch him. You’ve got to do it. So I did and he said Can it be done in six weeks and I did the math and I said in a perfect world, yes, but I have to be there when he gets out of surgery. So I cancelled patients. Took the read. I was there at the hospital when he got us surgery. I put the adhesive pads on him we loaded him into a stretch limo laid him down on the seat I treated him all I had was the big analog blue box that you saw. And they he had a sports carry unit so he’d been treating himself for the fracture since Sunday night right after it happened. And I treated him in the car on the way home and I literally treated him for 24 hours straight. And so that was Monday morning, Tuesday morning. The trainer from the Eagles Rick Burkholder came in and said okay, let’s see this. And you expect after that surgery, that the foot is going to be about the size of a I don’t know. Soccer well, and black and blue. We took off the boot cut off the bandage and there was zero bruising and zero swelling. both ankles looked identical except for the pins and screws. We treated him basically for six hours a day, six days a week for five weeks, four weeks. I took a week off the team from Atlanta came up and treated him and there are frequencies to dissolve scar tissue that are so effective that I wouldn’t use them you don’t use them until six weeks. So we were five and a half weeks. When I got to Jacksonville. He got to Jacksonville on Tuesday he couldn’t run. And I said that’s just scar tissue. So we spent Keith Brian glotzbach and I spent five hours taking apart the scar tissue in his lower leg, the nerves, the muscles, the periosteum all of it clear down to the bone. On Wednesday, we worked on him another two hours on Thursday my cat rack came and adjusted that $6 million ankle and Friday he ran like he’d never been hurt. When he got to Jacksonville on Tuesday he couldn’t run. And Friday he ran like he’d never been hurt Sunday he ran for 157 yards they lost or people might have heard of me. And but that was mostly because McNabb didn’t like getting sacked and as a defensive offensive line wasn’t having a good day. So yeah, that was probably the coolest thing I’ve ever done. And he The thing about Terrell and Buddy Prem has trainer is that it’s that stable state. He already had the stable state. It was like working on a Ferrari buddies. Players are allowed to have grass fed beef only. And they may have beef one day a week. They drink they can have salmon. They can have organic chicken, no rice, no potatoes, they can have sweet potatoes, no sweets, no milk. And so his players already have a stable state. He makes college athletes take a two hour nap in the afternoon. So he that’s the stable state. It was pretty fun. But thank you for bringing it up. It’s my favorite story.
Bill Clearfield 1:22:31
Yeah, well, when I read that, I just send it to my brother who’s a big fan and has been a season ticket holder for 45 years. And you know, that’s a lot of suffering.
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So, yeah, it was so
Bill Clearfield 1:22:44
David, let me ask you this. You heard you heard what Carol had to say. How does this relate to what you do?
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This is my voice. I lost my voice. Can you hear me okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we’re good. That Carol wonders. Dr. Carol. Thank you. We have a resonance based EMF technology came from Germany. And so many similar results but not as dramatic. It seems like your ability to concentrate that resonance is far greater in it’s more it’s a home therapy technology. They take it home, they treat themselves. Have you looked into it at all comparatively? No, no. PMF is the same. But this is a resonance based PMF. So just wondering if you had any experience with that. This is cure is from Germany.
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It’s the single channel most of the pulse TMF is single channel and current moving moving electrons create a magnetic field. Magnetic Fields move electrons. So pulsed EMF moves electrons, which increases ATP production, which by its nature reduces inflammation and produces the effects. You give any cell five times the amount of energy that it had and it’s going to do something useful with it. The combination of the two frequencies together have been surprising. So it’s, there’s a pulse EMF device that the Germans are coming out with. That has my technology in it. So it has two channels in a pulsed EMF unit and we’ve got 25 protocols that are that I deemed safe for patients to use at home. And that’s the only comparison I have is the is the theory and the people that have moved from pulsed EMF to FSM or use them together. They’re not they’re not mutually exclusive. So there’s nothing wrong with having a bio mat or a beamer or whatever. And then using FSM, therapeutically at the same time. Norio says how much is the unit the what we call a custom care is a small programmable unit and will hold about 45 protocols and it’s there’s computer software and it can be reprogrammed in definitely with whatever sequences you need. So I run it on myself with a magnetic converter. So it converts frequency specific electrical pulses to frequency specific magnetic pulses and I think, do you know how much Customer Care is just wanting for what the software think the customer cares 2400 with the software, the precision care is the one where you learn? You do specifically what the patient needs. That’s where you figure stuff out. And that one I think is about 64 6500. It’s a two channel manual unit. So you’re treating somebody who can’t straighten their leg or who has pain after a knee replacement. Let’s say and there’s no reason for it. Blah, blah, blah. And you run the frequency for metallic toxin and muscle contraction and metallic toxin in the bone marrow. muscle contraction turns to normal immediately. pain goes away. And it turns out that the patient is very likely allergic to chromium or stainless and they put in a stainless implant. So we’ve done it so there’s no way you would know that just by running joint pain on a custom care that’s what a precision cares for. So there’s actually two units. I do the research, treatment, research with the precision care and then I’ll use a custom care for the standard stuff like improving vagal tone is that’s a flamed on that’s just standard. So we run that from the patient’s neck to the patient’s abdomen for visceral conditions anything autoimmune SIBO gastroparesis, anything. Even inflammatory conditions the vagus is in charge of turning off the immune system and controlling T cells and macrophages. So it’s the specificity that’s different. Post EMF devices operate at different frequencies with so when you say it’s resonance based, I’m assuming you have different frequencies that you can choose. That’s right. It’s single, it’s still single channel, single channel, right. It’s one frequency.
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I’m gonna do more investigation. Once you know once I study everything because as you say everything is the patient. How do we transform lives so I’m completely resonate with you on it. So you go like you see this synergy between the two.
1:28:18
It’s there’s no reason not to use both same thing with homeopathy. Any nutritional therapy that you’re doing? If you have somebody that has PTSD, for example, you the data we have in PTSD is insane. It’s the we don’t have anything published which is frustrating because the military won’t release won’t allow any of the clinical things that have been done on military patients but PTSD scores go down by 50% in four sessions when the PTSD is six to seven years chronic and then PTSD. No improvement is expected after two years. So to get a 50% improvement in four sessions is in a month is not possible. And the full protocol calls for eight sessions in seven weeks, so twice the first week and then once a week after that, and then you can decrease the medication and use supplements to support neuro chemistry and general health. It’s a really good combination. Same thing with traumatic brain injuries. We use supplements, but now people know what testing to do. Doctor I don’t want to miss pronounce it. Mo Li, Mo L J. O, depression and anxiety. If you look at the causes, so my Bachelor’s, my master’s are in psychology. And when you and I’m a little bit of a neuro geek so when you look at the causes of depression, anxiety, cognitive dysfunction, they’re all inflammation. So we have protocols for the brain, the medulla, the midbrain, but the best way Yes. Yes, neuro Greek neuro geeks unite. The best way to turn off depression and anxiety is to turn on the vagus nerve. So the biggest 80% of vagal fibers are a Ferrant and the vagus has is its job to
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Okay, so the vagus notifies the brain of infection, stress and trauma and the brain turns the vagus down, that increases inflammation. So, inflammation in the brain is part of what causes anxiety and depression there are frequencies for the midbrain, which in our world, we only have one frequency that includes the amygdala. The hippocampus and the thalamus. So it’s good for phantom limb pain, it’s good for thalamic pain from strokes. And it’s good for anxiety and depression because it includes the amygdala and the hippocampus. So the combination of being able to reduce inflammation directly and turning on the vagus reduce inflammation in general. Makes it pretty useful. I had one with one practitioner who came to a seminar he was an interventional cardiologist, and he’s when he was his turn to get worked on during the practicum. He said I’ve had anxiety for five years. I don’t know if any of you are our interventional cardiologist, but those guys work without a net anxiety so as I was treating his abdomen, he also had digestive difficulties. I got to thinking what would cause anxiety while it had to be the midbrain so I put the frequency for the midbrain on Channel B. And I ran the frequency for inflammation on Channel A didn’t do anything. Okay. What else? Toxicity so there’s three frequencies for toxicity. And I ran the first one in combination with the midbrain and the patient went from talking and wide awake to like slightly creators out there. CC verse Ed, just gone and they slept for 20 minutes and I let that run when he woke up by switch to the next one. He fell asleep for another 20 minutes and at the end of all three frequencies at 60 minutes. His anxiety was gone and stayed gone for three months. So there’s something probably in the hospital that he started working at five years before that is toxic for him and creates problems. So they they have their own unit at home. And he just treats himself so yeah.
Bill Clearfield 1:33:44
So how long is a second? How long is what how long would assess should be said he treats himself is it a half backwards and an hour’s and five minutes?
1:33:54
It depends. It really does. There are some things where if we had one practitioner from France, who had French managed care, they have 30 minute sessions. And he presented a case report at the symposium in 2007 teen I think or 1517. And he had a patient who was scheduled for Thoracic Outlet surgery where they were going to remove her first rib and he treated her in 30 minutes sessions for six twice a week for six or eight weeks. The end of that thoracic outlet was gone. Surgery was avoided. He had 30 minutes sessions. Back when I first started doing FSM I had to see three patients an hour to support my overhead so I had three rooms. I kept three rooms for all day long with one assistant and the patients were booked every 20 minutes. And but the patients were in the room for about an hour. So it just depends on how much time you have they in general the patient’s takes space. They don’t take time. And almost all MDS and DEOs can’t afford to spend 60 minutes with a patient but most of you have multiple rooms and most of you have clinical assistants medical assistants, massage therapist somebody. So I start with the patient. Tell my assistant what to do get started. Turn them over to the assistant go into the next room see the next new patient or see the next patient. Do the history do the physical assessment. get them started on treatment. Then I go back, swap with my assistants and turn to the next room and you can keep two rooms full all day long. The biggest challenge people have is your chronic patients get better. Like they get better.
Bill Clearfield 1:36:04
And I know what a concept right? Yeah.
1:36:07
So your frequent flyer is supposed to happen. That’s not supposed to happen. Exactly. You’re supposed to see him like once a week or once a month forever. And they get better and the The challenge then is learning how to deal with new patients. So every chronic pain patient you see no six people just like him. And every one of them when you get them better and you’re the guy that sends them home repaired. They tell their six friends so my every receptionist that I had had to learn one new patient a day because otherwise I ran out of follow up visits. So one new patient a day and every patient you plan on twice a week for four to six weeks. Some of it’s for rehab. Some of it is that’s just how long it takes to get not only the original complaint repaired, but the the compensations. So you fix somebody’s shoulder and you increase the range. Well what happens to the lats. The lats connect to the low back. So the second and third treatment you’re still treating the shoulder by the fourth treatment you’re treating the low back because their gait completely changed because the lats attached to the low back. So if you plan on twice a week for four to six weeks, they’re better and they send their friends. So it’s a it’s pretty fun. Most of the time it doubles a practice in about six to 12 months. So and even if it doesn’t, it’s just so much fun. It’s a lot more fun to go to work than it is to stay home.
Bill Clearfield 1:37:56
Well, there’s that. Anybody else have any other questions?
1:38:01
Yes, please. Hi.
Bill Clearfield 1:38:03
Is finally Yes.
1:38:05
I’ve tried to figure out this whole computer thing. Hi. enjoyed the lecture enormously. Men have just like you long time and it’s your contact frequency. specific.com/core
1:38:21
frequency specific.com is the website. I think the classes are frequencies specific.com backslash core Yeah, that’s that’s how to sign up for courses and most people take them on video these days. The five day comprehensive is intellectual overload. It is a lot because fully 50% of the course is diagnosis and that’s not what you call it. It’s how you think about a condition when you have to treat the cause in order to fix it. So I was married to David Simon’s and David wanted trigger points to be a muscle disease so the medical profession would accept it. As the years have gone on. It turns out that we have to treat what is causing the muscles to be tight. And that’s a whole new concept sets this ligaments nerves. So that’s the five day course so it’s better to take it on video and then come to a two day practicum so we’re in Denver, Atlanta Philadelphia. Contact Oh, and which one will type it into chat? Type it into the chat you can give. Where are you? Tell me Kevin click down here. Oh, type a message there. We go. So contact a frequency specific.
1:40:00
Dr. Clearfield Yes. Dr. Gerber. Hi. I bet you that this frequency work is terrific for dental issues.
Bill Clearfield 1:40:09
I’m sure it is.
1:40:11
Well, yeah. So we have a dentist. Is that go on Kevin. I don’t see it. There we go. It was to Dr. Berg does anyway so we have a dentist who actually patented the use of frequency specific microcurrent in dentistry. So in medicine, you we’ve had I couldn’t patent the frequency and didn’t want to because once you patent something, the only point is to be able to sell it then you have to defend it and it’s like more trouble than it’s worth. But Mary Ellen Chalmers patented the use of FSM and dentistry So in 2007, I had open heart surgery, single vessel single lesion with no risk factors every other vessel was clear. And she said this isn’t right. So she kept looking and we finally had a 3d cone beam and I had nine root canals and the whole back half of my jaw, upper and lower jaw was necrotic. So I’d had nine nine jaw surgeries, six to remove infected bone and teeth. And that sounds pretty horrible, but because I used FSM immediately after the surgery. I didn’t have any pain didn’t have any swelling. no bruising like zip zero, nothing. TMJ is fairly straightforward. These days. We finally figured it out. He just fixed what causes the TMJ. The challenge with inflammatory periodontitis is it’s usually infected and then you need a 3d cone beam to do that. The other thing that she’s done is after orthodontia to use it for the ligamentous strain and new injuries so she has a bunch of protocols for that. So yeah, it’s it has turned out to be good for dentistry.
1:42:18
Thank you for knowing that. Great, great. Could you give us a name of one machine that you like,
1:42:26
oh, precision care if you go to precision, distributing Kevin I’ll type it in. So Kevin is the reason why the tech around here works. Okay, he’s gonna
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do that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
1:42:44
Yeah, precision distributing.com We don’t publish the prices. Because if you want to sell a custom care to a patient, your cost on that custom care is around $2,000. And we’ve had people sell them for anyplace from 2200 to 3500. We don’t want the patients to know what you paid for them. So in order to be allowed to buy a machine you have to have taken the course. So precision distributing precision precision distributing will sell bundles, so you can take the course and buy a custom care at the same time for sort of a bulk price at a reduced rate. Selling a device to somebody who has not taken the course is like given that three year old newsy. That idea. There are there were a few people who took my course and then published the list of frequencies on the internet, on their websites without any precautions. And I just went ballistic and sent emails to all three of them. I made up a list of things you have to be careful with and send it to them. We publish that Be careful with these lists. So for example, the frequency the increase secretions actually works. So I have data from an n of one me as the lab rat around the frequent ABS postmenopausal on supplemental estrogen around the frequency to increase secretions in the ovary and my salivary estrogen went from 1.4 to 37.1. In 30 minutes. Now I was nauseous fatigued, had a headache felt pretty awful. And thankfully my liver was able to detoxify all that excess estrogen. I got off that frequency went to something else. And
Bill Clearfield 1:44:54
you need a progesterone frequency. Yeah, no,
1:44:57
I wish because we don’t have a frequency for the corpus. luteum. Right. Right. And there are frequencies for the for the anterior pituitary. I discourage people from messing with the posterior pituitary just because do you see what if it works? Do you really want to mess with ADH? I don’t think so. I was treating somebody with a hypoxic brain injury. He was basically locked in. eyes were open but unfocused, non responsive on a trach. He had a hypoxic injury after set injection, he fell asleep and just stopped breathing between the procedure room and there were three area performance and that took care of that. So I was running through all of the parts of the brain doing the standard and then increased secretions in the cortex. And then the next frequency on the list was the membrane and I ran as the fourth or fifth frequency combined with the membrane around the frequency to increase secretions in the midbrain, which includes the amygdala, the hippocampus and thalamus. And this man, effectively in a coma, started to cry. tears running down his face, chin quivering. I reversed it because I knew what I’d done. But that means the frequencies really do what they’re alleged to do, whether that’s what you want them to do or not. Right. So that’s why the course is so detailed. If the frequencies were just blow off, wouldn’t matter, but the fact that they actually do what they are described as doing means that use them thoughtfully. So anyway, so that I can’t even remember what oh, the the progesterone. Yeah, so that was that’s I can’t even remember what you asked me that got me going down.
Bill Clearfield 1:47:18
You said you you stimulated the ovaries to make estrogen Oh, you got a headache. You were nauseous? Probably a little agitated, irritable.
1:47:30
Actually just exhausted just completely exhausted.
Bill Clearfield 1:47:33
So you needed to you needed to progesterone to balance it.
1:47:37
Well, basically I needed to stop running that frequency and let my liver detoxify. All that estrogen.
Bill Clearfield 1:47:42
But there’s that there’s that too, but just just giving you the alternative.
1:47:47
Right. So the frequencies do more or less exactly what they’re alleged to do. And over the years over the last 25 years, placebo effect is been kind of eliminated. As a as operational. It’s always helpful. If you can use it. Could you use this for treating reflexes. When when somebody has a cervical or thoracic disc, it creates inflammation that slows descending inhibition. You get hyper active patellar reflexes when we treat the spinal cord for other inflammation or to increase descending inhibition. We can get rid of hyperactive patellar reflexes, but I’m not sure if that’s what you are talking about Dr. De Bono. But yeah, if you can get the nerve and the spinal cord functioning properly the reflexes, reflexes go back to normal. One of the case reports in the book The resonance effect is a patient that came in with fibromyalgia and RSD or CRPS and the CRPS. She came in on Monday, the CRPS was gone by Wednesday, and the fibromyalgia was gone by Friday. The following week, we kept her in rehab kept doing FSM she had three to facettes spine that were still jacked up and I had a really good P m&r Injection Specialist and he did for set blocks. And this was in 2000 where I actually injected that that he did to set blocks on her and she left two weeks after she came completely pain free and recovered. Prior to join again, that’s the highest spot of my life. Better than Terrell Owens actually although he was really fun
Bill Clearfield 1:50:06
so how does it work with you? You said you said the units home with the patients if you said the practitioners play around with it and get themselves in trouble what happens with the patients?
1:50:15
Well, you use the use the units in the office I so I’ll treat with the manual unit I’ll use the custom care in the office when you’re sure that the patient is stable and what they need what they have needs retreating. So Ehlers Danlos has become really straight forward. It’s just not that hard. I know that sounds weird, but there’s one frequency that appears to change the integrity of the connective tissue. So you run that frequency neck to feed their body pain is spinal cord because the disc annulus is made of connective tissue and their discs leak and that inflames the spinal cord. So you treat as you would for cervical trauma Fibro, so 1410 neck to feet. Treat the connective tissue neck to feet. Ehlers Danlos patients have anxiety, depression, gastroparesis SIBO all of the digestive difficulties because every time they stand up their vagus nerve gets attraction injury because the basement membrane in their gut is too loose. So you treat the Vegas so that’s 1234 machines and you treat them let’s say on Monday and then you haven’t come back on Thursday because it usually lasts about a week. So before they go back to baseline, you treat them a second time. And then you tell them I want to see you back in five days. This isn’t going to last and they come back in five days. You treat them again it works again. So by the third session, they expect it to work and then you let them go weak and find out that it comes back. Then they have one unit that they buy and they treat themselves. I don’t want to see I don’t have time to see somebody in my office every single week. I don’t I don’t have enough spaces. So, Ehlers Danlos patient, you send them home with a home unit once you know what they have. I had a patient with she had radiation treatment for the it’s not a glioblastoma what’s the pediatric spinal cord tumor that kids get? Anybody remember the name some sort of blastoma anyway, they took it out surgically when she was 18 months old. It came back when she was three they radioed her spinal cord. I got her when she was 29 she was a toxic spastic, depressed, all of those things in constant pain. And I had to run the frequency to reduce inflammation in the spinal cord we treated or to take the radiation damage out. But in order to change the spasticity we had to use the frequencies to increase descending inhibition of spasticity in the spinal cord. And so she went home with two units when she was 29. She’s now 36 To the units every single night. She’s finished a bachelor’s degree she’s in a relationship. She’s mentally healthy, not depressed off of her meds, and she walks so that’s what the customer cares are for you. You send them home with patients after you know what the patient needs and what’s going to work.
Bill Clearfield 1:54:04
So to set up a little clinic, how many of these machines do you recommend?
1:54:09
Oh, depends on a lot of things. neuroblastoma Thank you, neuroblastoma. Drives me crazy. I know it wasn’t real. Thank you. I appreciate that. When I set up my clinic you can do it with one precision care and two custom cares in a room as long as you can reprogram the custom cares for what you need them to do that day because of the kind of patients that I get. My whole practice for 25 years has been the 5% of patients that nobody else can fix. So probably not unlike the rest of you. So in my treatment room, I’ve got to two or three precision cares and two custom cares, but I usually use two to three to five machines on a patient at one time so I can get basically a month and a half’s worth of work done in 60 minutes. So it just makes it easier. Ben kuthodaw Lee, who was at Cleveland Clinic P m&r He’s moved on to Shirley Ryan but he still holds the record and I still don’t know how he did it. He had seven machines connected to a two year old and it worked. So there we go. So it’s the the baseline would be one precision care and a custom care once you get busy. The machines pay for themselves because they’re approved in the category of 10s devices. So is FSM approved. No the FDA doesn’t have any opinion about the effect of frequencies just doesn’t. The devices are approved in the category of 10s devices. So they’re reimbursable as if they’re 10s. They don’t pay a whole lot, but it pretty much replaces your advertising budget and even at minimal reimbursement rates. If your insurance based practice if your minimal reimbursement rates they pay for themselves in about three months. So that works and you have to get a rolling cart. And I personally use wet wraps. So I have a towel warmer in each room. And you go to Costco and you buy white washcloths. And white handhelds and the devices come with alligator clips and you need fuzzy blankets to keep people warm. So it’s it’s a setup but we talked about all that in the seminar, kind of the practical aspects.
Bill Clearfield 1:56:56
Question is are the FSM training courses the same and the equipment different according to the bundles? The
1:57:02
training courses are the same. The equipment you can the bundles will sell there’s I think there’s one bundle that’s a precision care and a custom care with the training and then there’s the training and a custom care. And then you can once you’ve taken the training, you can buy anything you want, and you can train your assistants so if you take the course on video, I don’t have any problem with this matter of fact, I encourage you to show the video to your medical assistant or your clinical assistant because they’re the ones that are going to be doing a lot of the hands on work and they need to be trained. So yeah, that’s that’s the way I’d recommend using it. The other thing is, I don’t know what you’re I’m 75 and I have a history of dental infection, mold, exposure, all of that stuff. And I use my custom care every single night, treat insulin resistance. And anybody that has been reading, Bredesen knows that one of the ways you prevent dementia is by getting insulin resistance down so I treat insulin and leptin resistance every night and then when I wake up at two or three o’clock in the morning, I treat the vagus nerve because rather than these days rather than turn down specific inflammation, I let the vagus nerve do it. So the vagus nerve has is its job to suppress the immune system, especially T cells and macrophages. So, sometimes turning down inflammation is not always directly it’s not the best thing to do. But the vagus nerve decide how much you want to turn it down. It’s pretty fun.
Bill Clearfield 1:59:10
Okay, yeah, Carol, you you you are super. So I hope I hope everybody here enjoyed this. You know, I can’t tell you what a great time I had Phoenix. And I hope you invite me back some time.
1:59:27
Oh, we will have you back. I mean, you you found everybody has a tribe. Right. Right. Yeah. And you and what’s his name? Bill. Forth. Pollock, William Pollock. Gary Pollock. Yeah, Jerry pollack. fourth phase of water. He came in and lectured about before the cells, gels and the engines of life. That’s the first book and then the fourth phase. of water, cells, gels and the answers of life is transformational just makes you completely think about biology in a different way. He walked in lecture to our group and had exactly the same reaction or response that you did. It’s like you’ve never heard of these people, but you’re part of
Bill Clearfield 2:00:19
the tribe. Yeah, it was like Friday said the first thing I said was I’d have no idea what you’d I tried to read about it and I just didn’t resonate. But by the time I left, I have a pretty good idea and I I promised that I was going to take the class so tomorrow I’m going to Miami to age management Medical Group and then after that, then I’m free. So yay, next next. Next week, you’ll be getting us so there you go. Okay, so anybody else have any comments or questions? I think we should let Carol go. It’s getting late on the east coast. It’s almost seven o’clock. For you guys. Anybody else? Next week. We have Egan Walker, who is a local judge, he’s a district judge. And I thought it might be interesting since you know a lot of us do all sorts of alternative medicine, things that are outside of the quote unquote standard of care. You know, we’re gonna bring in Judge Walker, and he’s going to tell us all the things that we’re going to be, you know, have to be afraid of so. Thank you, Kevin. By the way,
2:01:27
thank you, Kevin. Kevin, is what I don’t have it problems. All he has to do is stand next to the computer and
Bill Clearfield 2:01:36
behave, sir, we certainly could have used it in Las Vegas last week because we had nothing but it problems so and so Oh, by the way, those of you that were there. You know, we had you know, the it went out five minutes before our show started and our our first first speaker was in Pakistan, and it took them over almost two hours to get it going again. So I jumped in and gave actually the lecture that I’m giving this week in Florida. I gave it just because you know the show has to go on and not everybody appreciated and I got some bad reviews. I thought you know, you know with no preparation and no plan to jumping in there. I thought he did an okay job. So any of you that were there, you know? Let me let me know because I was a little stunned that fives and sixes out of 10 for you know, a spur of the moment.
2:02:31
Just as a as a suggestion for the next time when we have virtual presenters they pre record everything. You can’t Well, internet at all
Bill Clearfield 2:02:45
so we don’t have we don’t have the hour hour to go on to deal with what went on with those with those people there is literally rest assured we will never go back to that place. Again. It was the flamingo hotel. I know the first question to ask when we go there. So we ran into a union problem. And if you’re union person, I apologize but no one told me anything about it until four days before the show. That we had to have. And they wanted $35,000 to run the internet for three days. Yeah, right.
2:03:26
Las Vegas. I don’t think so. And everybody says you did a great job.
Bill Clearfield 2:03:30
Well, we we survived I was asleep. I don’t want to do it. I don’t want to do it again. Next week. I’ll tell you that. I’m still in recovery mode. So, so Okay, so next week, like I said, Judge Walker be here. Get your legal questions together. And the week after that, I think Dr. Hollis is going to give his part three of his integrative oncology. And then the last week we have April, Dr. Parven. Will will be going to be giving our our beginning getting our certificate series. So that’s what we have coming up. Thank you all again. Please bring one friend you bring one friend we double our our our house. Carol. It was great. I hope you’ll come back some time.
2:04:24
Had a good time. It’s always night. Yeah,
Bill Clearfield 2:04:26
we had a great time. We always record these we put them on our website if it’s okay with the speaker. So if that’s okay with you, and our website, those of you who don’t know it’s a OH S or d.org/webinars. Okay, so, all over the web, almost 95% of the we’ve been doing this for almost more than a year and a half now, every every web almost every one is there. Every once in a while either forget the recorded or the speaker doesn’t want doesn’t want it recorded doesn’t want to post it. So they’re all there there’s there’s probably 60 or 70 Lecturers there. Some of them most of them have the transcript with them. So a lot of them have the slideshow also. And we’re still waiting for it takes it’ll take another week or two. I’m guessing for the the videos for the for the conference will have that up there on the website. Also it will be password protected for 10 months because it’s kind of not fair that the people that paid you know paid to go see it. They did get CME credit by the way if you’re a do your and you sent me your information, you should have gotten your credit already. If you’re an MG, there’s there was a little snafu with that and I need some more information you’ll be hearing from me in in a week or so. Something about an ad they tell me afterwards I had to I had to collect the month and year of birth or something like that. So yeah, they don’t tell me this ahead of time, you know, so we could do it all at once. So, so there’s so because we’re we had ama credits also this year for the first time. So So that’s that. And everybody, everybody that was at the conference. Thank you Dr. Cruz. Dr. Burgess and David, Dr. Patel and Murray of course don’t leave Maria up there in the upper upper right. She’s She’s with us, was with us. Also. One thing if someone can can direct me on how to get so we have I have Dr. McCullough’s entire talk, it’s almost two hours on my phone and I can’t seem to download it anywhere. So if somebody knows how to do that, I don’t want to lose it. You can send me a message on how that’s done. I tried Dropbox, I tried to OneDrive and nothing doesn’t seem to work. So but it’s still there. Okay, Carol, thank you so much. We’ll be hearing from me in about two weeks. And everybody else we’ll see you again next week. Same time, same station. If you’re going to Florida to AMG, I’m speaking right? Sunday morning at nine o’clock. So don’t miss it you because you know it’s always the best lecture of the whole weekend. So and I say that modestly by the way. But you don’t have to come actually because you if you weren’t the viewer, if you realize Vegas, you heard it. That was the lecture that I jumped in and gave so Dr. Burgess, anything. Anything else? And we’re all we’re all ready to go Oh, one last thing. Again. Just to reiterate, we scored 99 out of 100 on our re re re credentialing and we’ve been re credentialed for five years, which is the highest re credentialing the AOA gives, and so we’re good for another five years. So
2:08:04
congratulations. So
Bill Clearfield 2:08:07
great. And then Carol again, we will talk about you know, getting accredited for your group to Okay, thanks. Okay, thank you all so much. And I’m going to say goodnight. Thank you Dr. BB and thank you everybody. Dr. Gerber, Dr. King. iPhone, Dr. Patel, Dr. Renza. And Dr. Mojito, we had some new people on so I’m gonna say goodnight. And we will be back again next week. Take care everybody. Bye