Tue, Feb 14, 2023 4:48PM • 2:01:56
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
estrogen, patients, obesity, allergy, thyroid, problems, pandemic, women, pesticide, chemicals, people, eat, cdc, leads, estrogenic, state, glyphosate, too much estrogen, good, questions
SPEAKERS
Bill Clearfield
00:46
Hello. Hi, Dr. Cathy. How are you doing?
Bill Clearfield 00:50
I’m doing fine. Thank you. So much for being with us.
00:53
I’m really sorry. I’m out of state. So where are you? I’m in New Hampshire.
Bill Clearfield 01:03
I thought you were out of the country. Yeah. To your country.
01:07
Yeah. Okay,
Bill Clearfield 01:10
um, yeah, I was just I always like to, you know, at least a week ahead in case some something happens or somebody you know, drops out so we want to make sure that you know, we have somebody to speak otherwise they get me. Yeah. And my boring hormone lectures, so, no,
01:30
we love them. So,
Bill Clearfield 01:33
but thank you so much for being with us. Most everybody shows up right around five or a little bit after so. If you want to relax until then that’s fine. We got about 10 minutes. And
01:48
yeah, do you have slides? Yeah, have slides. So
Bill Clearfield 01:52
you know how this thing works, right? Yeah. Should
01:54
I share? Yeah.
Bill Clearfield 01:57
When you’re ready, and we do. Usually if it’s okay with you, we record it and then we put it on our website. If that’s okay with you. Of course. Okay. The terrific Thank
02:08
you. The lectures on immunology tonight, right? Yeah,
02:12
right. So right and I
Bill Clearfield 02:18
looking through some of the some of your work I mean, you you must never sleep I think you’ve covered Oh, here we go. Here we go. Here’s another one. Right. Yeah. covered just about everything. So so we’re happy to to have you on and like I said, if if it’s okay with you. We’ll record it when you’re ready to go. Right. And you’re in Canada, though, right? Was that three live?
02:57
No, I live in the US Island. My place is super South Dakota. Hi, my clinic in Minneapolis and so forth and Bismarck.
03:10
Wow, okay. That’s not they’re not close to each other, are they?
03:16
Oh, wow. So far. There’s like three hours from Minneapolis.
Bill Clearfield 03:23
So I’m assuming you have others helping you? Yeah. You can’t be in all those places at the same time at
03:32
the same time. No. No.
Bill Clearfield 03:38
Okay, so anyway, like I said, just we’ve had a couple of lectures in the last couple of weeks about mold and mycotoxins. And and Dr. Hartman here is an expert on just about all that stuff. So. So we have quite quite an eclectic group. Usually there’s between anywhere from 20 to 40. We’ve been getting in the in the 30s lately. And like I said, I admonish everybody every week to bring one friend that way. We double double our our census. So right.
04:24
Somebody else showed up.
Bill Clearfield 04:27
Yeah, well, like I said, they’ll they’ll, they’ll they all filter in around right around five o’clock.
04:39
Well, you know, they may be taking their Valentine’s date out. Everyone’s
Bill Clearfield 04:45
Valentine’s date.
04:46
Yeah. Valentine’s Day. So that’s
Bill Clearfield 04:52
what can be more Valentine than this, right. So and I don’t know if I don’t, I can’t I don’t know if you know, Steve that John Burgess had a heart valve replaced last week and so he wasn’t around.
05:05
Oh, wow. Yeah. No, he was having it. I haven’t heard how he’s recovering though.
Bill Clearfield 05:11
Um, you see, he’s seems to be more feisty than ever so okay. Yeah. That’s good. Hopefully he’ll if he’ll be on tonight. He’ll he’ll ask you some pointed questions. Dr. Tanner. He’s quite the character. So in Joe’s Joe’s away to Joe’s in Las Vegas at some conference, so I don’t know if he’ll be Oh, he
05:36
ended up going. Okay.
Bill Clearfield 05:41
And then the, you know, the next question, you know, I keep kicking it around is do we want to we want to put together a live conference. Perhaps by the end of the summer, beginning of the fall, quite frankly, you know, we would we wouldn’t be doing it in the next month and it’s been kind of nice for me not to do it this year. It’s been a lot.
06:02
You you are on a grind for a long time.
Bill Clearfield 06:08
So but I’m starting to feel it you know, I’m starting to get my oats back again.
06:13
So well all supported if Yeah, if you want to do it
Bill Clearfield 06:18
okay. We still are still at the airhorn hotel. You still have connection there.
06:23
At where
Bill Clearfield 06:24
the airhorn hotel in Vegas. No, the
06:27
the owner is in the process of selling it. So Chef Mark left, set up his own way place. It may still be a deal. We can still look at it. But
Bill Clearfield 06:42
I liked it there was
06:45
it’s a perfect place for a conference our size. It really is. So I just don’t know the status. I’ll have to talk to Chef Mark and find out oh, I can find out.
06:57
Okay.
Bill Clearfield 07:00
All right. How we doing on time here? Five minutes to go. Okay. So
07:13
well, this is
07:14
the this is the least number of people. I’ve seen it for 56 Yeah,
Bill Clearfield 07:21
don’t despair.
07:22
That is, yeah, Valentine’s Day took it off
Bill Clearfield 07:25
Valentine’s Day. So if we don’t get it if we don’t get a good enough crowd for Dr. Tanner, we’ll just have to twist his arm to come back. That’s all we don’t take no for an answer, sir. So you know. We don’t we don’t back down from anybody. So
07:44
no, no.
Bill Clearfield 07:48
So anyway, anybody else have anything going on? Well, not much. Everything’s quiet. So I’m going up. There’s Dr. Burgess. I’m going next week to Phoenix to do my traumatic brain injury. Day for the frequency specific microcurrent crowd so and I also got invited to do a presentation at the Arkansas College of Osteopathic Medicine.
08:34
So on integrative medicine,
Bill Clearfield 08:37
one traumatic brain, you know, endocrinology of traumatic brain injury, so well you integrate
08:45
it
08:51
sounds great.
Bill Clearfield 08:54
Dr. Burgess, how are you? He’s been quiet
09:20
my computer’s very weird. I’m doing good. Six days, right. Six days after aortic heart valve. I have never been so weak in my life, man.
Bill Clearfield 09:34
Tell us you you’re feeling great.
09:37
I tell everybody, I’m feeling great even when I’m not. I think I have enough time in my life now to write a book or two. So that’s going to spend all my time and I’m so happy. I’m so happy with all you guys man. And Dr. Tonneaus here.
Bill Clearfield 09:54
Good to know. Yes.
09:56
But you’re gonna read the book on Sci Fi or
10:00
more. One is the homie a puncture, a combination of Homeopathics and acupuncture and we do a transdermally so you can do an acupuncture a good acupuncture treatment in one to two minutes. So that’s good. And then so that’s my scientific one. I don’t know what the other one’s about. I’ll figure it out. You guys can tell me Hello Dr. Toronto.
10:30
i How are you doing?
10:33
I’m doing good because that aortic valve surgery last week. Oh, okay. Yeah, I’m good. I’m anxious to learn what you have to share with us. All right.
Bill Clearfield 10:46
So yeah, head over organic. aortic valve surgery. You couldn’t be with us last Tuesday.
10:56
I was booked and prepping for like four days.
10:59
All right. Yeah.
11:06
All’s good and all appreciate it. Thank
Bill Clearfield 11:08
you better be because you know, I I you know, I’m lost without you. You know that.
11:13
Thank you very much. I feel the love Okay, so
Bill Clearfield 11:27
Nik is back that revolt is back some names we haven’t seen in a while so.
11:46
Okay, so
Bill Clearfield 11:46
I have a little bit that I have right at five o’clock and I will let will let people in as they come back to Tanno. Okay. We’ll try and mute everybody please mute yourself and,
12:03
and we’ll record it for others.
12:11
Okay.
Bill Clearfield 12:13
And so welcome, everybody. And a couple of new names. Not familiar with please. Thank you for coming. Today we have Dr. Benoit tanto is speaking on some immunology, immunology. He’s quite a prolific author and researcher. You look up his look his look up his website or his name. And I mean there’s there’s just reams and reams of papers. It’s really quite impressive. And I said, I don’t know when he sleeps. He say he seems just night and he’s just going at it night and day. So Dr. Tanto I’m gonna gonna just turn it over to you if you could do a brief introduction. Remember where the American Osteopathic Society of what are we these days John in integrative medicine and we’re carrying on our traditions from rheumatology. And we’re carrying on the good fight. Thank you all for being here. And we really appreciate it. We’re here every week at this time. And Dr. Tanto I’m gonna turn it over to you just a brief intro of yourself and you know who you are and how you got to be where you are today and take it away. You know how to use this thing. Take it away.
13:35
All right, thank you so much Dr. Clearfield for inviting me to speak to this group. Thank you all for coming today. Actually, our title is integrative immunity. And quite pandemics and the paper state as we go, I think that you will learn why I give this title and I will I will introduce myself as we go because I have a slide where I can show you exactly what that is. So how many of you know that we have five pandemics going? Now so we do have five pandemics going and I will tell you why we have those five pandemics going on the title of this is a test of environmental toxins on the growing estrogen or BCD allergy immune complex anxiety, depression and virus bacteria and Candida pandemics. So those are the pandemics that we have. That’s why I have a title part pandemics and the fever state the state is the bacteria virus can be that pandemic.
15:03
I have four books that I wrote. The latest one is called the layman’s guide to integrative immunity. So integrative minute is actually my brand. I coined that term and agreement is somebody some people talk about integrative immunology, but I came with this term integrative immunity in 2014 or so. As we go again you will understand why but I came from the Ivory Coast. I don’t know how many of you know the Ivory Coast and if you don’t know and you love chocolate, think about the Ivory Coast because they’re the number one producer of cocoa to make chocolate in the whole world. So many people don’t know the hybrid cars, which is French speaking but they know Ghana. So it’s next door to Ghana. And I came here in 1980. So I’ve been in the United States for 40 years or so. And I came for graduate school. I came to study economics. So I did my PhD in economics. And after that I taught economics for about seven years before I went to medical school. When I was teaching economics I was taking classes one by one and stuff because I always wanted to be a medical doctor but in quite the wild the Ivory Coast where we had the French system and junior high school high school already they direct you into one field and I was good for economics and social sciences so I never had a chance to do anything with the basic sciences or anything like that. But when I came to the US, I found out I could still do medicine. So while I was teaching, I was taking classes to go to medical school. Eventually, I went to the medical college Ohio where I did my training and after that I did my internal medicine residency at Ohio State. After the internal medicine residency, I did a fellowship at GlaxoSmithKline to combine my economics and medicine now my goal of going to medical school had always been to practice medicine not only to do research, so luckily I got a fellowship at Johns Hopkins where I did my allergy and immunology training. Now because I had the teaching background, after I finished that training, I said well maybe I should go to a university setting and teach. So I got a position at the University of Texas Health Sciences Center in Tyler, Texas, and as an associate professor of medicine. So while I was teaching one day my colleague who has a pediatric allergy say, hey, we had a meeting in Dallas and one of their sons to go is not going to be me you go so who cares? I’m gonna go there for five days and join myself and that would be it. So I went to the meeting and it’s a group of Family Physicians and end physicians who get together through what they call the Pan American allergy society, and they learn how to do skin testing, and then introduce allergy in their practices as you will you understand, I had a fellowship 22 years fellowship training and allergy immunology. So that part did not interest me much. But what I learned from that group is that there was someone Dr. Steven hotsy, who did a presentation on hormones and how the hormones affect this hormone, this hormone so Whoa, why didn’t I learn this? In medical school? When did I learn this in residency? And why now? And plus this group I learned allergy in five days, maybe I should go and learn hormones and try to know more about it. So I went and bought literally all the books on hormones in the market and tried to read them the more I read I found out while the hormones actually play a major role in allergy as well. How because I found out women in their mid 30s That did not have allergy before Biden the method is all of a sudden some of these women are having allergies that they cannot explain. They have food allergies, food sensitivities, they have asthma, they have all of these things that are showing up and when I traced it, I traced it to the hormones. So that led me to write the first book called the allergy detective, allergic rhinitis treatments secrets Your doctor may not tell you because I found out about that secret because most of the time when these women show up, we didn’t know what to do with them. We did skin testing on them it’s negative. So the pathway through which they have the allergies is not through the usual IGE mediated pathway. Then after that I started questioning myself. What about obesity? Could this obesity be due to hormonal imbalance? And I found out Yes, obesity differently due to hormonal imbalance and the hormone imbalances due to environmental toxin affecting the hormones and that is leading to obesity. So I came up with the hormone imbalance syndrome, America silane play the second book that as I was going, I was thinking of how can I create my own little niche where I can combine the endocrine system and the immune system because I found out that the endocrine system and the immune system are the two system that drive majority of the chronic diseases. And that’s what led me to the term and degraded immunity. So when I created this book or when I wrote this book, I thought I was going to write a professional guide. Because I had a layman’s guide. I want to write the professional practitioners guide. But when I looked at it was going to be over 1000 pages. So I decided I was going to turn that into a training program. And that’s what I have done. So currently I do have a mentorship program that I’m helping healthcare practitioners use my protocols to get results and currently our group differently we get in good resource with what we’re doing. Now if you have questions, please stop me and then we can go from there
21:43
this is going to be jumpy, I looks like
21:52
alright, so take a minute at the tip estate. When this is basically the outline. We’re going to talk about backstory, the making of the medical detective. I don’t I told you a little bit about that understanding the government covered interventions, the government intervention timeline, the USGS United States Geological Survey pesticide maps, who talk about the obesity maps. We’ll talk about the CDC perf report. We’ll talk about many of the chemicals organochlorines, organophosphates and other stuff we’ll talk about basic and nested which is the estrogen pandemic How many of you know that we have an estrogen pandemic going? Most of us know but we never really pay attention but we do have an estrogen pandemic dragon many of the problems that we see around mechanism of action of the estrogens and other chemicals in the CDC pop report. The Third Estate is the allergy immune complex or what we call auto immune pandemic. The forecast state is going to be the anxiety depression pandemic and then they flip as they will be the virus bacteria everything that we all focus now these days. The objectives, I’m not going to go in detail but when we finish, especially if you do see the recording, you will know all these things that we try and to connect. So our goal as healthcare practitioners, the old goal was to maintain chronic diseases with medications and also to prevent them by doing vaccinations. However, all of you who are in integrative medicine now you know that our goal has shifted and we’re trying to eliminate as much as possible the chronic diseases and also prevent new ones from forming. So to prevent and eliminate the diseases though, we need to have a disease model. So how many of you have a disease model? When I graduated, what one I finished my trainings Actually, I did not have the plan when I was going to practice medicine. I just went and jumped in like everybody else tried to practice medicine. I had no model I had nothing until I started thinking about it and then I came up with a model that works better for the patient care. So when we have providers and we have patients, that should be a happy medium, so providers welfare, and patients welfare most of the time when we don’t master what is going on, then we’re not happy ended patients also are not happy. So can we get to this happy medium? What is a murderer the murderer is a representation of the theory and the theory is the explanation of the mechanism behind observed phenomenon. So to create a model we need to understand the state of health. How many states of health do you guys think we have? Usually, I say that we have three states of health. That’s why when we see people say Hey, good morning, how are you doing today? When we ask them that question, we expect them to elicit something to tell us something but most of the time in America. When you say good morning, how are you doing to devise I’m okay, I’m well, even though they do have problems. Nobody’s going to tell them to tell you about the health problems so we don’t know. But otherwise, we expect people to say I’m wearing today I’m doing great. Or I’m under the weather a little bit. Maybe I got a code. Maybe I have something chronic going with me if you can help me out with that. So these are the three states that we have. When we have the three states I came up with transition probabilities. I really think that many of us don’t think of transition probabilities, meaning if a person is well, last month or last year, if we meet them today, what would that be? Would that be still well? Or would that be trenchantly sick, or would they have any diagnostic of say diabetes or blood pressure? rather ominous things can show something else? That could happen. But if they trenchantly sake as well, they can be well, or they can remain in the state of trenchantly sake or they can be worse. And if somebody’s really bad, like they have diabetes and stuff is not a life sentence anymore. We all know that they can get well if we take care of them. Or they can transition to a moderate kind of diabetes situation where their blood sugar’s we get better some time and some time will not. Or they can remain in their own state. Now, based on this, we can calculate what we call transition probabilities, where we take each state and we divide by the stock from which they came from. So for instance, if we have a chronic disease people, we take them and we divide by the people who started here at year one or beginning of the year. That gives us the probability and the determinants of that would be the endocrine system or the interaction effect between the endocrine system and the immune system that I said explains about 95% of the chronic diseases. patient provider value ladder, so I don’t think that I have seen anybody talking about the provider or patient value ladder. So this will be my own doing something that I created. I call it value data because if we think that health is our best value, how our wealth, we’ll put that on the vertical axis and a half and price on the horizontal axis. If people are chronically sick, while maintaining them, we give them a lot of medication to keep them here at the bottom of a ladder. There will have less wealth, because they have less value. Our goal as integrative medicine practitioners or functional medicine practitioners these days is to move individuals who are in this at the bottom to be unwell all the time. So if we can move them from here to here, then they achieved more wealth and more help, that that will command a little bit of price. Right? Because if we’re going to move them from here to here, they’re going to make efforts on their own. They had to eat better, they have to do all of those other things I would ask them to do that will need to pay a little more for instance, if they come to the functional medicine person, they’re not going to pay the same as if they were paying through the insurance they will have to pay a little more that we get more for the value. So if we want to give them value, we have to move them on the ladder to the top of a ladder from the bottom to the top. Now there are major things that prevented us from being at the top of the ladder. I think we had a practice environmental mismatch. Most of the time when we see the patients there are some environmental factors are affecting them but we don’t take that into account. So because of the mismatch, we cannot answer the question we cannot help them. So the patients are not happy and the practitioners are not happy. Do you guys know the number one complaint of patients number one complaint or patient is that doctor never explained to me my problem they never taught me anything about my problem. So I want to know what is wrong with me but my doctor really did not explain my problem for me. So they had a grapple meter and the grapple meter the number one thing is then clear explanation of problems then you have all these other things like test results are not that are not communicate in time billing dispute. Reason is if people are not happy they don’t understand that if you believe in them, they’re not going to be happy about that either. So we’re going to do disputes and stuff like that. Sometimes when the patients come and people don’t understand that, that means and other stuff. But at the sudden, they say well you know why do you go to these doctors who are giving you all these vitamins and supplements and all of these Oh, they don’t they don’t want to really understand it. So the patient don’t like that so that doctors who build all the other doctors that don’t want it so if you do that the patients tend to think you are arrogant and you had a bad bad bedside manner. So they’re going to give you bad reviews and you know these reviews this this will go into how much patient you get later on. So these are some of the things that the patients are saying. So are we prepared to address these common 21st century patient complaints? Which is the number one complaint or do we feel burned out? Or most of the time if we don’t know what to say and stuff like that a patient comes? We have no answers for them then we feel burned out would be overwhelmed etc like this lady this man there are tired so I said that integrated immunity is probably the solution to some of his questions or his problem that we having if we train well and we understand what is happening then we can help our patients.
31:54
Now be integrated with military process quality PCR with pre qualified patients we connect with them. We do a review a system and physical exam. Then we educate them and we’ll make recommendations. How many of you can do a review of system in five minutes. A lot of times we all do this but we don’t really learn to do a review of system in five minutes. So if you guys know you want to know that I can help you do that. And every time I teach, I do do some of these review system really in minutes then people can learn how to do it. So integrated immunity model and what is integral immunity? I told you so how the endocrine system and the immune system work together to cause probably 95% of the chronic diseases. So the interaction effect is what we’re looking for. So these two system have increased malfunctions and the malfunction is causing the tech the detrimental effect which is the disease that we see around. So environmental effects on the endocrine system and your immune system. What is the evidence? They found thinking that the environment is causing problems. So is there any evidence at all? Well, let’s talk about the backstory. What is the backstory of all of that? So early 1980s. The CDC all of a sudden discovered that some states are gaining weight abnormally. So they proceeded to investigate so in 1984 they created what we call the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance Survey. The past a survey round people fill them out 1985 that created the festival density map. And obesity was only in an eight states. It was Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, West Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, Wisconsin and North Dakota. And guess what the rate was only 10 to 14%. So back then, were screaming and kicking and still got obesity but now the rate has reached more than 40% in some states. So not only obesity has taken over the phone of America, Canada, US Mexico, the whole world has become obese in 40 years. So by the World Health Organization that come back 2025 Couple years from now we’ll do nothing there will be 2.7 billion people overweight worldwide. So it’s a pandemic. The problem is if he asked the CDC or what hap organization why we give them the weight that I think is a calorie in calorie our problem. We eat too much we’re not exercising, and that’s why we gave them the weight it doesn’t add up. Because if it were true, the whole United States will be uniformly obese. That is not how many of you know that obesity is actually concentrated in the middle of America, from the Upper Midwest all the way to the Mississippi embayment states and every single year. Mississippi is the driver. It starts in Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Kentucky, West Virginia and when it goes up, we’re like a tree every single year. So I’m going to show you some of those things and then we can move forward. So who am I to talk to you a little bit about that. I talked to this IB seminar state they said that had you visited to begin with and like I said the CDC map the first map in 1985 This is what we had now five years later, look what has happened. The blue for 10 to 14% has taken over the whole the whole us almost so is the government doing anything to help with this stuff? Where the government is doing something they’re trying to figure it out. And at the same time, so the CDC is doing the maps but at the same time, the USGS is also publishing pesticide maps.
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So my thinking is
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the reason be obesity starts in Mississippi is because do you guys know where the Mississippi River starts from? I suppose so. It starts from Minnesota. And it traverses the whole United States and goes to Mississippi. But the big rivers such as Ohio River, the Missouri River, that are dumped into the Mississippi and they carry with them, whatever we do upland so my thinking was maybe the pesticide that we spray in the farmlands I killing us all and they’re causing this obesity pandemic that we see around. So that that was what I thought I didn’t have any evidence whatsoever. But I wanted to prove that so I looked everywhere. I called the whole United States to find the pesticide. And then finally, somebody in Washington DC said yeah, we got pesticide maps. I took the pesticide maps and mash them year by year, and they match perfectly well with the obesity maps. Now when I did that, the USGS actually invited me in 2011 to do a presentation in Denver for them and when I showed them the master were blown out. Whoa. So you mean that the master was creating can actually help you solve some medical problems? So of course you guys do it, but we’re not connecting with the CDC to try to come up with solutions to problem that we have a anyway, these are some of the tests or maps we had two for D which is the herbicide. We have glyphosate. Of course, all of you have heard about that. Look how spicy it was. It wasn’t that dense like it is now. And then I tried it. How many of you know of Atrazine and what it does, of course with the work of Professor Tyrone Hayes out of Berkeley, we know that Atrazine in water converts the mill frogs to to lay eggs. So they may have for us to lay eggs that means this chemical is really bad. It’s an automatic booster. It converts testosterone to estrogens, so that’s why PB ends are laying eggs. The male ones are laying eggs. That resin is not really good for us. alacra affects the know so we can have nasal cabinets or largement as well as who can have thyroid problems. Matala does the same thing. And as you can see, the Corn Belt has a lot more of it. And Matala s that I don’t put the name here but they say matola CRO s also does the same thing. Now the government is passing laws. We have laws against pollution from 1947 until now so many laws, but who is actually watching out for the laws to be obeyed. The farmers do what they want, and we’re not finding any solution to our problems. So we know we have pollution and the pollution is causing problems. And yet, we’re not really doing a whole lot to try to find out what to do with those laws in 99 difference and do you guys know that we pass an organic food production act that says then how much organic food are we producing? Not much at all. So those continued now, I asked what causes disease in the 21st century? I think that it’s a strange factors such as pollution, microbial accidents, and extrinsic factors such as genetic and malformation, even the genetics and malformation may be due to the pollution because currently we talk about epigenetics, which means how the endocrine system, the pollution is actually affecting our genes and causing more malformations and all these birth defects that we see around. Why did I today’s major health problems? We have the growing estrogen pandemic the growing obesity pandemic, the growing allergy pandemic, the growing anxiety, depression pandemic and growing virus bacteria, Candida pandemic. How many of you know that there’s one Candida that is actually contagious? At least we have found one Candida that is contagious. It is called Candida Oris. A u r is and the CDC is actually worried about that Candida so if you go to the website, you will see that Candida is not so benign. And we see that in people’s mouths and stuff. We don’t really make much of it but it is becoming really bad. So what are the root causes of visa problems? Well, I think can we use multi specialty approach to answer these questions? I don’t think so. I really think we should use integral immunity approach to solve these problems. Now more problems and dermatologists food allergies, chronic sinusitis, chronic candidiasis chronic recurrent viruses, as we go have more interpreted dermatitis, migraine headaches, hair loss, when you see people in clinic that come up with all these problems, abdominal problems, bloating, cramping, constipation, diarrhea, IBS, IBD problems, Candida overgrowth problems, so they the Mayo Clinic actually came up with 10 Major condition that we see in clinic overall and many of them be skin disorders. Osteoarthritis, of course, as you know, those are related to obesity. That problems, cholesterol problems, upper respiratory conditions, anxiety, depression, bipolar disorder, chronic neurological disorders, high blood pressure, headaches and migraine headaches and diabetes. Those are what the mayo came up with, but I have more to it than that. So you can see the rest here, hives, urticaria. Now for instance, we have so many women after COVID who have hives wonder why so many women have hives? What is going on? Why the woman Why not the men? Some men too but not much, but a lot of women having hives when they get COVID or they get the COVID vaccination and you edema? hypoglycemic episodes we have decreased libido and brain fog. These two go together all the time. So my joke is 10 years from now. There’ll be no offices and there will be no babies so bear species going extent because everybody got foggy brain fog can decrease libido, sleep disturbances, eating disorders, abnormal weight gains, morbid obesity, hypothyroidism, bridge disease, all of these things and then etc, etc. I can see so many conditions that we see and now in clinics, ambulatory. So I said how do we maximize health and outcomes? To do that, we have to know the body. We have to know our environment. We have to know the foods and beverages so to know the body that’s what I said we need to do a questionnaire so when the patient come we give him 27 pages questionnaire, they fill it out. It gives us a lot of information about them and then from there, we can answer some of the questions. Now we need to have a be desk base and the evidence base. I always go to the government because I really don’t want to put out things that I cannot substantiate. So I use the H cap database. And the eight cache database allows me to make these statistics for instance, if I take migraine headaches, who has more I know that it’s a lot of women who have migraine. Headaches, about 83% of all the discharges in 2012 904 1000 discharges from the emergency room. Woman 83% What part of the country what regions have more, we find that it’s the Midwest and the South and I did control for population, because you tell me what the Midwest and the South have more population than the rest of the country. So it’s evident that’s not true. Even if you did state by state, you will see that still is the same thing that the Midwest and the South states do have more than everybody else. And if we take IBS, irritable bowel syndrome, B same thing, when we see that women have more 75 point 68% And then still Midwest and the South and it’s concentrated in the prime Midge females. If we look at other things such as my allergy as fibromyalgia, the aches and pains be same thing. And a lot of women about 65% of this time is about Northeast and the South. I have more. So I know the environment. How many of you are familiar with the CDC ripoff report? Now when I do presentation for frm or other other organizations, people don’t know the CDC ripoff report
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by CDC since 2001, has been measuring chemicals in our blood and urine and every single person that tested has chemicals in them. As a matter of fact, the children are born with more than 280 chemicals and the cord blood so it is not surprising that we have so many babies who have brain tumors and all of if you go to St. Jude website, we see all these babies through muscle they have brain tumor wonder why? Well that’s because they’re contaminated from utero, and that’s what is happening. But unfortunately the CDC finding the chemicals and you and I since 2001 The conclusion has been Don’t worry, don’t panic yet. We don’t know what is going on. You know, maybe, and they keep on drawing the same conclusion but I’m thinking that these chemicals are not bystanders. I think they’re causing problem for us. And that’s why we have so many other chronic diseases. So the CDC proper report would allow us to draw the conclusion that we have an estrogen pandemic going. I don’t want to click on those that these are clickable because if I click on it, it will lead us to the CDC perf report and we can see it but I put them here. For instance, if you hear but tell us not to drink out of plastic bottles not to hit plastic not to do that. Why? Because of BPA right? But why did they come up with that anyway? Well, it turned out that young girls, some of them I get in that period by age seven, so we have precocious puberty that is going on. And they say well this is due to estrogen. So what is estrogen, so Oh, it’s a BPA. So everybody’s there to BPA BPA but the big chemicals that are actually causing the estrogen problem. Nobody’s talking about those chemicals. So if you look at the CDC report, we see that many of the chemicals actually killed the thyroid price and your PFS and perfluorocarbons they’re all thyroid disruptors. Now, do you guys know who coined the term and endocrine disruptors? Anybody I was to call born and Theo coborn and her colleagues, Dr. Meyers and others. They published a book called our stolen future and fill up in 1991 or so bad had a meeting in Wisconsin, and she came up with this term endocrine disruptor. So now everybody uses it. But most of the time we don’t know even the source of it. I had the chance I was speaking to her when she was in Colorado before she died in 2014. But she has a lot of information on YouTube videos or TED Talks and stuff like that. So if you’re Coburn, she’s a big person in terms of endocrine disruption. We have thyroid disruptors. We do have estrogens like A B E or bisphenol F. We do have more estrogen here. In terms of old things I would have banned that I stayed persistent in the environment like Adrienne DDT. DDT was abolished in 1972. And I think all of you probably know, who was the person who actually went and publicized I did it is bad for us that we should not have it in our environments and all of our Rachel Carson, our Silent Spring, she came up with all this information and then people were alone and they abolished it but did it even though it’s abolishes still persistent in our environment, so it’s one of the Dirty Dozen chemicals. So these ones here, many of them are the Dirty Dozen chemicals. They’re all estrogenic they make your estrogen go up. Now many more here, the parabens or the deodorants and the perfumes, they all have parabens, if you look in the back of this, they all have the estrogen in them matters mercury, cadmium lead, or estrogenic. And then if you look at many of the other chemicals that make you sad Coalinga a lot of times people don’t realize that we have all the organophosphates and carbamates, that are actually put in esterase inhibitors so that make Cassidy colony available in our blood so we can have as I said it called anemia, and the acetylcholine as you will learn soon is not a bystander either, because we see so many people with anxiety, depression, we have a kid with ADHD, all of those people probably due to be acetylcholine as excess. Many of the chemicals make the estrogen go up. So it’s not surprising. We have many people with diabetes and all of that. More estrogen. So if you look at this whole CDC fourth report, chemicals, majority of them make the estrogen go up, the PCBs and all of them, they’re all estrogen compounds. This big group is estrogenic. So can gas escape. So my conclusion by looking at the CDC ripoff report is that we have an estrogen pandemic, but we’re not really paying attention to those estrogen pandemics because we were not quite clear about it. But it’s becoming more and more clear that estrogen is a big problem. So my conclusion here is that we do have estrogens, not only the chemicals, but also some of the food that we eat. Like the way the baldy the rabbits bird, they come with the millet, those are tied to estrogen. So if we have too much estrogen, even if you did try to estrogens, they’re not going to help you any. That’s why we have so many women who have gluten sensitivity, but eat gluten they get bloated they get crampy they get diarrhea, headaches, they get mood swings, or I have gluten sensitivity, that when did this gluten sensitivity come in? Well, it turns out the farmers actually in the Midwest, they’re very engineers. Somebody found out that before harvesting the wheat they can spray roundup on it in the mid 1990s. I started doing this practice and all I decided we cannot tolerate the width anymore. We eat the wheat and we sick but 1000 years people ate bread they had no problem. Now we eat the bread wood cannot do well. So all of you probably are familiar with Dr. Davis’s book with belly or he talks about other conditions like genetic modifications and all the things that have contributed to the weed being bad. But I think the fiber estrogen component is not negligible. Estrogen pandemics so what Well, turns out these estrogen when they’re high, they cause a bunch of problems. allergy problems as I will show you soon that cause accelerated aging that cause I didn’t exhaustion that cause cold and cold feet or cancer start decreasing, says Dr. Depression with anxiety now we have tons of people with depression, anxiety, dry eyes. I mean it goes on and on and on. A lot of symptoms that are related to estrogen overload PCOS for instance, young girls now 13 year old they have PCOS you wonder why so many young girls they have in PCOS, polycystic ovaries, why? That’s because of the estrogen be preferable to estrogen in our environment, driving all of these conditions, obesity, drive and many other tools and then you can see all of these things are due to estrogen. So the estrogens are not benign. They’re causing a lot of problems that are causing a lot of conditions symptoms that the patient presented with that we’re not identifying them as such. So a mechanism of action of estrogens and other chemicals in the CDC pork report. So I put the golden links. I started with environmental chemical poisoning, through knowledge is from the CDC perf report that goes negative externalities, such as cancers and all of that, that they make you estrogen go up the estrogen lead to obesity and I can show you how that works. And then the estrogen and obesity can lead to immune deficiencies or immune defects. And then that we have bacteria viruses that are going to proliferate we have allergies also that come in and then we try to fight them and then we have anxiety, depression, and that leads to broken relationships. And I can show you the maps and you will see that there is some connection between anxiety, depression and broken relationship but that comes from all the way up here till we get to that.
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So if we have organochlorine, such as DDT, we had the organophosphate let’s start with the organophosphates in our food. If you eat non organic foods, those foods are contaminated with these chemicals. And those chemicals lead to acetylcholine production too much acetylcholine. Those have receptors on your mast cells and basophils. So when they attach to the receptor that cause histamine and local trend release, so all of a sudden we have a more and more allergies around not only that they are still calling also has receptor on the islet cells, the pancreatic islet cell, so through the muscarinic receptor three that goes through a cascade and the end product is insulin. So if we eat foods that are contaminated with organophosphate and carbamate, were going to produce more insulin, so it’s no surprise that we have so many diabetics. Now the insulin causes obesity Of course we know that we get insulin resistance and the obesity leads to leptin resistance. And I will show you how that works. And the leptin resistant leads to diabetes and leptin resistance initially resistant leads to diabetes and all of that. But no suppose I said coding so when we have leptin resistant the coding is unopposed. And then we have more be acetylcholine causing problems. So this cycle right here, and it never ends. Now when we have too much insulin, and we have obesity, also we produce more estrogen. Why because obese people that produce aromatics, and that aromatics from the fat cells leads to conversion of the testosterone to estrogen. So when we have too much estrogen around these estrogens have receptors on your mast cells and basophils is called estrogen receptor alpha. So when they attached to the receptor that cause histamine and local trend release, so all of a sudden, we have in so many people who are allergic reactions. Not only that when we have too much insulin, it causes a proliferation of the masses and the bezel tears. So not only do we have more numbers are these masses and bigger fears, but then the BND granulated that leads to a lot of allergic reaction. That’s why we see in so many people now with allergies going on. I always when I lecture usually I ask people any questions about it because I know is that can put into fire hose in your face giving you all this information and that short period of time but it’s a lot of information. Anyway organochlorines do the same thing like the DDT and harbours. When they’re in our food or in our environment, and we get exposed to it. They go through the sodium channels on the pancreatic islet cell, and then the drug calcium into the cell, and eventually we end up with insulin. Again the same scenario, we got to have more cycling with obesity, leptin resistance assay, recording more insulin, and then etc. So if so Crusader night these are new, newer pesticides that came in such as the alkali silica to do a little bit about that, those cause knees or terminate enlargements and of course, thyroid disease. So now, all of a sudden we haven’t so many women who have Hashimotos that have Graves disease, we don’t know what what to go with that. Certainly, that is because of a chemical that we have in our environment. So to talk about thyroid, I think many of you know how the terror works. Now phenylalanine is the beginning material to make the thyroid the phenylalanine goes to tyrosine and the tyrosine goes to dopamine and the dopamine goes to norepinephrine and epinephrine. Now, the catalyst to go from federal and into tyrosine is higher and that’s why it’s always important when we test them for the thyroid to also test ferritin which is your iron stores. Because if you don’t know what the iron is doing, you may not know exactly how the thyroid is working. That many people don’t test for the iron. They just test but test the TSH and that’s it well formulators of iodine get attached to the terrorists in and becomes t for the T for the terrorists in the form of the formulations of iodine. Now, that is the beginning. This beginning thyroid hormone is not quite active yet to be active. Why not the iodine get chops up that the DoD the SAP enzyme and then that becomes T three and the T three is the active thyroid. Now while is going to be T three, that T four also goes to reverse the three the reverse T three is a competitor of a T three. So if we have a cell with receptors for the T three and the reverse T three and we have plenty of reverse T three that to the body face that we have low thyroid, it’s not going to work. So that is one of the major issues. The other thing that happens is that when we have SSRIs we have all these chemicals that I’m showing you what are these chemicals, many of them that are there like perfluorocarbons and stuff that have fluoride in them and that fluoride substitute iodine on the thyroid on the tyrosine. So now we cannot make people and if we can’t, then the thyroid is not going to work. That’s why we have so many people with low thyroid The thyroid is not working. Now the conversion of a teapot to d3 requires some vitamins require some supplements. So all your B vitamins or your minerals will be good to help convert more of your tea for Timothy three. But what makes the tipper go to reverse the three low progesterone too much estrogen overload sell low selenium low is too low potassium low vitamin D No iodine low and too much cortisol turns out this is what is happening to a bunch of people. So then many people are converting that people to be reversed the three by a full time that somebody has low thyroid, guess what we gave them while I started We given them Synthroid or levothyroxine or even tyrosine, which is better than the other two. And yet, they’re not converting that to the active form. They go into reverse the three because they have all this condition existing. We also see the coexistence of anxiety and depression with low thyroid. So many women who have low thyroid or have Hashimotos are stuck. They also have anxiety depression. Why? Because it’s the same pathway tyrosine goes to make dopamine and all of that so if this is not good then they’re not going to make all these neurotransmitters and if they don’t, then they’re going to have mood disorders. Now glyphosate which is roundup actually tends to reduce the production of phenylalanine, tyrosine and tryptophan, those aromatic amino acids. When they reduce then we’re not getting enough of these things. Our neurotransmitters are not going to work our thyroids not gonna work. So we’re going to have problems. Now the shikimate pathway from the bacteria, the gut bacteria that produce some of these for us. They actually come in pathway is disrupted when we do have the glyphosate around. And that’s why many people again, may have depression anxiety, not only the glyphosate is estrogenic by itself because the Buddha would press it and grew like wildfire. So it’s no surprise why since the mid 1990s, we have so many women with breast cancers and all these female cancers. That’s because of too much of glyphosate around
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the anxiety depression pandemic. If we’re talking about symptoms of as high acetylcholine. If you look at it, it mimics the symptoms of high estrogens. They exactly look alike. So, too much acid column can appear like we have depression, anxiety, we have all these things that are happening to us. Again, you know, if you look at this, you can go and check this refer friends that I put in here and it will give you more information about this. depression anxiety. How do we test it in five minutes when people come? We talk about their sleep and their interest if interest has changed pleasure, right? Are they feeling guilty doubts or self doubt by certain things? energy levels, concentration levels appetite psychomotor activity like basically we observe that they have psychomotor agitation or retardation and then suicidal ideation. If we ask them those questions, they will quickly do a CG caps that allows us to determine whether they have depression or anxiety. Again, looking at some statistics, we can see that for recurrent depression, psychosis etc. CBR females 60% Midwest south have more. When we look at more, you can see diagrams how things have changed. One of the things that you may want to pay attention to is the years in which things changed. It looks like since 1997 1998, things have changed a lot very drastically for all these conditions. And the number one reason is we introduce blacklisted in our food chain on a larger scale 1994 That’s when the GMOs came in. So all of a sudden since 1997. So there is a lag effect or probably couple year three years. But all of a sudden things have gone down here since we introduced that anxiety states have changed the same thing. Midwest and South have more Oh god. Women have more all the time. Clerical admin markers who can go to bed but I just want to skip it and you can do stuff. So a lot of times one of the what I will say about this slide is that when we give a nutritional supplements to people, we have to be careful. Why because if we give tryptophan based supplements, they’re going to cure it innate and that is inflammatory so people can have inflammation that can convert that to Korean rate. And that can cause insomnia. So the patient will kind of so I’m irritable I’m in so I cannot sleep while we say well you know we don’t know maybe you need to take melatonin all of that but maybe it’s the supplement that we given them so we have to be careful when we give supplements to people. When we do the curricula mean testing if they have low noise, epinephrine, low dopamine, low serotonin we have to suspect I said they call the name Yeah. Because when we have too much acid recalling actually causes these neurotransmitters to go down too much estrogen, we get anxiety, depression to why? Because the estrogen they have the same receptors on ourselves as the dopamine, epinephrine, norepinephrine. So when we have too much estrogen, they bind all these receptors, and all of a sudden, we’re not getting our good neurotransmitters in their cells. So we end up having more anxiety and depression. Now these papers show you that so what is common in men pesticide overload, obesity, anxiety, depression, divorce. So this is my rendition of it. We know that we have pesticide overload that leads to more obesity and if you look at the regions where we have more, this leads to anxiety, depression, the same region, and that leads to more divorce in the same region. People say well, correlation is not causation. Certainly, but there’s this is not the first time somebody’s using maps to show things. The other using maps, or what we call medical geographic is going to snow.
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And I will show you a little bit about so basically pandemic.
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I told you already a little bit about that. The CDC and the World Health Organization, ideas about obesity, obesity trends. As you can see, it was slow right here 1997 98 Boom, extra astronomical increase. It dips down a little bit and then goes up continuously. It’s not going down at all. It continues to increase and we’re not tackling the right reason we haven’t the obesity so we cannot get results. If we all know that it’s due to the pesticides and then think through it then perhaps you can get a better answer to it. The seminar said I had it and if you keep an eye on it, you will see what I was talking about that Mississippi is the driver. And you can see that Mississippi Louisiana start that and then it goes and goes up we’re like a tree and is keep on going. So going looking at the obesity maps and then Mississippi starts again and you can see that it’s going and taking over and then the whole place is obese, Mississippi started with time so when you pay attention carefully to the map, you can see that Mississippi is the driver and that’s what I explained to you that the river may be contributing to it. And more and more and more and then 2011 With these changes so you can see how things change. The map is changing and it goes all the time. 2011 the chain the chain they scale by the state they same thing they change the colors by see the same thing you can see that the orange one is 30 to 35%. The yellow one is 25 to 30% and then so and more when we look at by decade, you can see how things have evolved.
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They go turns out the obesity maps
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and then also morbidity and mortality. So the areas where they have yes obesity no surprise, also carry the highest mortality. Were basically types who had the people with the veteran obesity, you have Australia, you have all of that those people they have insulin problem. They have estrogen problem because look at the guy he has gynecomastia. I’m really so surprised these days. I see so many men with gynecomastia. That’s because you have too much estrogen in our environment rather than that. This hip type definitely is estrogen, too much estrogen. This one is estrogen and cortisol and all of those guys who have the ventral obesity they have too much cortisol going this one I call it obesity. I do. So people who even not related who live in the same family like husband and wife, they tend to have the same obesity pattern. I call it obesity. I do. The two boys had obesity same thing in the same food and drinking the same word I may end up having the same obesity. So why should we care or we know that obesity is the mother of all diseases. So if we pay attention and saw this obesity problem, then there will be no more this problem or conditions so are there any relationship between agrochemicals and obesity? Well, that’s what we’re going to see. So I talked about a little bit about Philco barn I talk about people who talked about this thing and Rachel Carson I did discuss that very briefly. The 1990s Though I personally started my own neural movement talking about the pesticides and obesity and how all these things are connected. Talk about John Snow, the father of medical geography because a lot of time people said well, what are you doing causation? correlation doesn’t mean causation. So just know is the first one who talked about that. And I follow his lead to show that yes, differently if we have obesity and we have pesticides. If we look at the regions where we have more obesity, we can see that that region corresponds exactly to the place where we have more pesticides. For instance, if you see the street going down here that is going through the Mississippi River, you can even see the pesticide driving through. I didn’t make this map by the way is this the USGS who created it now the same thing, this is one pesticide if we take another pesticide, the same region that has more bees, it has more pesticide that it goes to the Mississippi River. Again, you look at this one same thing goes to the Mississippi River, so it’s no surprise why Mississippi start with obesity than anybody else. And the same maps, I mean, I show several of them just to make the point.
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Questions about any of those things?
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All right. Now allergy and autoimmune diseases, immune complex diseases, the allergy pandemic, all of you know the Obama working group that came out with the dirty dozen foods. I really don’t think that we have dirty dozen I think we have 30,000 or the foods are dirty. Pina did not make the list and peanut is dirtier now the way and I have done more studies showing that because of the pesticide that we use in cotton, and we rotate the cotton with the peanut, definitely the peanut is more contaminated. That’s why we have so many kids with peanut allergy so the contamination in our peanut makes the European Union in Israel, our best allies not to want to buy our peanut anymore. So the dye the peanut from Argentina. We tried to do the best to draw to bring them back but they still buy the pizza from Argentina because ours is contaminated. Food Allergy trends. If you look since the mid 1990s 1996 97, we have a que Pina platic reaction process was going down it 97 start going up. If we look at the NGO edema was going flat and then 1997 has gone up. If we look at period allergy was right here 9097 started going up a lot. If we look at celiac disease, it was down 1996 97 start going up. If we look at some paper nurses to insulin and others that did the correlation study that showed that if you look at the Euro under celiac considers and then the black line is glyphosate, the advent of Roundup you can see that says roundup came in our food chain we have more people sensitive to gluten and celiac disease. Now if we take things like fish allergy that does not use pesticides, we don’t have such a trend. If we we take our finger down anemia press the iron deficiency anemia. There was plaid right here 1997 astronomical increase so it’s important that when we see patients to check the iron because many of them have mineral deficiency, magnesium, zinc, iron, and we’ve not given them all these minerals, then they’re going to complain of aches and pains and tiredness and all of these are things that they will complain about that simple. Iron ore simple magnesium therapy can control many pain including even broad pressure allergic, allergic carry carrier, it can see differently. We do have a lot of women who have it and in the south in the West. Idiopathic urticaria, same thing we have more women who have it and then so it’s all these three love with Northwestern south and then glyphosate induces cancer. So the papers that have been written, you can actually look at those papers and you can see those references, chemicals in food production, the United States process if we take wheat, you can see all these chemicals that goes into our wheat and it’s not benign, many of them I mean, they’re really cause bad stuff. So that’s why we cannot tolerate the wheat anymore. So whether it’s a spring wheat or winter wheat, they all use the same chemicals. So here I give you a table where I looked at the effect of these chemicals on allergies and aroma taste and everything else. And it looks like they’re all really bad for us. The virus bacteria Candida pandemic that I told you about. You can see that the areas where we have more obesity more everything differently, we’ll have more antibiotic resistant bacteria that are growing. And it makes sense because the bacteria what do they use to proliferate they use sugar so they have plenty of glucose around. They’ve got to proliferate. Same for viruses if we have too much sugar RAM, they’re going to proliferate. Same for Candida. If we have sugar around, they’re going to periphery but who has more glucose. The people with obesity have more glucose so in essence, we have a we’re fostering these bacteria viruses and Candida from our state of obesity. So all these things I show that and I want to put it together for you how all of these things come together
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this is the house
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it took me a long time to build the house. So I don’t expect you to be able to build it in one second, but I’m going to just summarize it for you. So I give you the foundation here. I start with estrogen I told you that we have estrogen pandemic, those estrogens on there go up and make your insulin go up. When the insulin goes up, your blood glucose goes up. And the essence of it number one fat maker so what it does is it takes the excess sugar and puts it into fat cells simple mechanism. So since we have this plethora of estrogens, Allah decided we haven’t so many people will be sitting. Now when the pastures are filled up and not happy by Send a messenger leapt into the brain to complain. When they hypothalamus guess the left hand says okay guys, I’ll help you send a message down decompress Leave me alone, but nobody loses the weight overnight so they don’t see the result. They send more leptin, more leptin now, we get what we call leptin resistance, because we have plenty of leptin but the brain is not perceiving that anymore. When we have leptin resistance, serotonin production goes down because there’s an inverse relationship between leptin and serotonin. So all of a sudden we have anxiety, depression, panic attack that setting now to treat the anxiety, depression and so what do we give them? We’re gonna give them a depressant, the SSRIs and stuff and what did I tell you? Those things contain fluoride or stuff like that as binder and that fluoride actually goes to inhibit your thyroid. So that’s why many times when we put people on these antidepressants, all the sudden they gain weight, and we don’t know why they’re gaining the weight. That’s because the antidepressants are suppressing the thyroid function. So when we have leptin resistance that leads to insulin resistance simply meaning they actually now be in plenty has no capacity of pushing the load of pastors around to get the sugar in them. Their sugar spin the blood and high levels of what we call diabetes. also showed you that when we have too much acid recalling that can lead to insulin resistance. So we do have in our environment, a lot of chemicals that make us a colony variable. So then all of a sudden we have more insulin resistance, diabetes and everything else. Now when we have too much, or too many other parcels that cause inflammation, they produce TNF alpha and il six. So all of a sudden people are having aches and pains, joint pain, muscle pain, back pain. They’re having allergies, women, they’re having asthma that they didn’t have before because the person they’re producing those cytokines for them. Now we learn from COVID that people who die more of it people who are obese. Why? Because they get cytokine storm. The cytokine storm come from the fact that people who are obese already have an underlining inflammation they have tnfr paralysis and many other inflammatory markers. And so now that we get COVID, the B cells and the macrophages and all the other cells, they’re producing all the cytokines as well. So the body becomes overwhelmed, and then the people don’t make it. So that’s what is happening. Now. When we have pastures around, they actually have your skill set in adrenal glands to produce a bit more estrogen for you. So when I see people with obesity, I don’t even think twice I said, Well, you got estrogen problems. Why? Because as I said, people are producing aromatase, the parcels are producing the aroma taste and the aroma taste convert the test run to be as treated as a test session is going to be estrogen while I decided people are getting brain fog, because remember, with the assessor in his basement, I say yeah, let’s go climb trees. Let’s be creative ledger webinar if you don’t have it. Okay, go away. I don’t want to do anything. You know, you cannot think straight people names come down come so easily anymore. And so we were losing it. When we have too much estrogen that goes benign tumors and women, of course, fibroid tumors, publicity, bad disease or variances and Demetrio cervical dysplasia as abnormal pap smears are those are benign one. We are also Candida proliferation. Why because having a student around making too much glucose, the Candida loves it. So the Candida is going to proliferate that’s why so many people have Candida overgrowth. But that’s not the worst of it because the estrogen that causes cancer in women that cause seven cancers breast uterine ovarian, vaginal cervical colon cancer, and for men that cause prostate cancer and colon cancer and lung cancer for men who never smoked women also lung cancer for women who never smoked. Now, when we have too much estrogen, the thyroid doesn’t work because too much estrogen the protein that carries the thyroid hormone era known as the thyroid binding globulin gets bigger. So the more we have that, the less the thyroid would work. So to be very pleased that we have low thyroid. Now we I told you that many women now they haven’t Hashimotos those Hashimoto thyroiditis. Or those thyroiditis with this group disease or hashing. They’re all related to too much estrogen. That’s why women have more of that than men. When we have
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too much
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estrogen, they also cause coagulation factors. So a lot of people present there are some women who go on birth control pills that are deciding their coordination factors and are working so they get blood clots, and they get blood clots in their lungs and all of this other stuff. So they’re all related. The other thing that I can say that when we have problems with we have stress in our lives. The stress leads us to produce more cortisol from our beginning hormone which is pregnenolone. So if we’re making more cortisol, that we’re not going to make our longevity hormone called DHEA. If we’re not making DHEA while B testosterone is going to go down because we have low progesterone low DHEA that the top line they feed into the testosterone that tells us this right is going to estrogen. So if the appliance are low, that we’re going to have low testosterone, and the low one is going to estrogen. That’s why we have this low T phenomenon. So many people that have low testosterone around and men are going to get all kinds of testosterone supplementation and everything else that goes on. Too much too low testosterone that leads to too much insulin, and then the estrogen causes this problem we cannot burn fat so we get flabby we get obese abdominal problems that goes on abdominal growth. Graphs that is going on. So all the men having big abdomen because they haven’t low tea. I’m just going to fill in some of these things just in terms of time. So when we have low DHEA and the estrogen goes up, we retain salt in our kidney tubules. And the blood pressure follows so all of a sudden, we have high blood pressure. So we have too much glucose, we’ll get diabetes, we’ll get blood pressure problems. And these are the things that we treat in clinics. But understanding this diagram is not one thing that many people do and eventually when all our hormones are off, then the body is smart. So the body is going to increase the LDL cholesterol, which is the starting material to make the hormones. So as our LDL is going up, people think oh boy, we’re gonna die of heart attack. So they start giving us a statin drugs and all of that. Now, of course, there was a JAMA article that showed that if we give women statin drugs that get more diabetes, why? Because of course we make cholesterol from glucose glycolysis that will make for the better oxidation of the 30 or the acids, those two leaders to asset recovery. The Acetyl Co is the one that leads to cholesterol and the rate limiting enzyme in the HMG co reductase. So if we block this HMG co reductase with a statin drugs, then what does the glucose go while it sits in the blood? So then we get more diabetes, and that’s a very clear understanding of that. Now, does cholesterol really cause heart attack? Why it turns out these days papers have been written that the triglycerides actually worse and it’s true turns out that when people forget that cholesterol is a key is an average for that cholesterol is bad for you. fat is bad for you, without the fat without the cholesterol people that have heart attack anyway. Then we look at the Africans that either will be saturated fat, then they’re not they’re not getting heart attack. Why not? Turns out when it’s saturated fats like coconut oil and avocados and all of these other stuff. What they do, they tend to make you a large particle LDL larger and your small dense particle is not growing. The small dense particles is the bad one. So now we have the lipoprotein fractionation test that can allow us to measure this more dense particle LDL. But how many of us do it a lot of time people we still do the old cholesterol test that we sell this is enough. And then we start giving people statin drugs when actually maybe what is big is the large particle LDL. We don’t have to give them that in order for the small particle LDL to cause problem. We have to have homocysteine Iran. Now Homa system. The byproduct of metabolism is an amino acid circulates in the blood and poke holes in the arteries. So as it’s doing that, the Smart Desk by the core LDL lodge in the house and form inflammation. Now macrophage monocyte, the head inflammation when they see that they come around to clean it up. They eat so much of the cholesterol remnants, they become obese. We’ll call them foam cells, right? Those foam cells that wallow then die more than coming to clean up the die in their form in the cemetery a white blood cell called plaque. The plaque is big enough to obstruct the death so lumen and they had muscles are not fed part of a die so called heart attack. The brain is not fed part of it does we’ll call it stroke. So the name of the game is called oxidation of VLDL. So why don’t we prevent it by doing some antioxidants? That’s why personally, when I see patients in clinic, I gave him a lot of antioxidants, because I don’t know who has one. Now we know that as a group of people in the population who cannot absorb their B vitamins. Why? Because they had the MTHFR mutation and they had the mutation that cannot be absorbed that determines their folic acid. So now we have to methylate the B vitamins or the folic acid for them to absorb it and so many vitamin company supplement companies are manipulating the B vitamins and folic acid for absorption. And that’s why this came in. As I said, the estrogen they have receptors on your masters and below Theo’s, so when they’re attached to the receptor that cause histamine glucotrol release in this diagram. I show you also in the interest of time, I’m just going to fill it out but I show you all the supplements that you give to a patient where they intervene, where they come in, and you can use this diagram definitely to help the patient by looking at what supplements and seven can give them. The blue ones are all the supplements that we give to people. So the connection between that diagram and the next one is through here. estrogens estrogen receptors. We have local trend histamine release, we get our allergic reaction. We get hives, we get all of those things that come in, etc. And then food allergies same thing we get all of that I don’t want to go into the details. Now we have an even worse conditions called the muscle activation syndrome. What is activating the muscles so all these patients will show up with all the symptoms. Now what is activating the muscles ah the estrogens the acid recalling the insulin causing them to proliferate. So all of these things are affecting the masses causing them to pour out the granules that leads to all these things that we see around so when we talk about mast cell activation syndrome, we never talked about the chemicals that are driving it will not talk about the hormones that are driving it. And here I tried to show you a little bit how all these things are connected. When people get COVID they get more hives. Why? Because when we get COVID We make active antibodies will make IgG and that IgG IgM. The IgG especially has receptors on your muscles. So when it attaches to the receptor, it causes them to the granulate as well. And then complement is activated it causes the granulation so that is leading to all the highs that we see when people get the COVID or they get the COVID vaccination. Again, I show you the receptors on your muscles, and how all these things can go the master to the granulate basal fears are exactly the same thing. I don’t know why people talk about muscle activation. And they don’t talk about basal cell activation but should that the reason histamine is so bad histamine affects everything so when the histamine is released to a cause. Problem with the central nervous system, cardiovascular system, they get tachycardia, hypotension, they get all kinds of things with them. They get flushing, they get hives. Well these patients who are having histamine problem, that’s why people talk about histamine free diet. But when we talk about histamine, low histamine diet, what we don’t tell you is that those low histamine diet are so estrogenic so maybe estrogen free lifestyle is a better way to go. And I’m not going to go deeper but I think that’s why I stopped.
1:33:14
Questions. Very good lecture. You missed
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my lecture last week, but it kind of follows a lot what you were saying I gave a lecture last week on the ancestral diet. So what I tell my patients is you know, if you cannot buy organic glyphosate free foods, just focus mostly on beef, because beef cow has four compartments of the stomach and it can potentially filter out a lot of these pesticides a little bit better. So that’s what I recommend to my patients mostly is following more ancestrally appropriate foods.
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Right. So now with a beef one of the major problem is if you talk to the people in the Midwest, or the side and you will find out that the way they feed the beef cattle, they give them here they give them grass in the beginning and then three months before the butcher them they give them corn. The corn that feeding them is GMO corn, so it’s contaminated and it goes to the beef. It’s contaminated until we eat that we get sick on it. So I think that’s one of the major reason we have this beef not working. And that’s why grass fed organic beef is so expensive because they don’t want to put all these things in.
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Exactly. questions.
Bill Clearfield 1:34:37
Anybody else have any other questions?
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Comments?
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How do you detox your patients with the glyphosate poisoning?
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So, Dr. Isaac alias, actually, through his website, he does have a compound called graph for detox. So he’s given the patient therefore a detox product to clean out the deficit. Interesting, so there’s a back foot detox that you can have out there and clean the glyphosate whether I give that to the patient all the time they like it.
1:35:23
Other questions? The
Bill Clearfield 1:35:30
cruciferous vegetables here are usually things we discourage the patients with thyroid disease from from, from eating, or at least staying away. From from raw ones. So how do you how do you balance that?
1:35:45
Yeah, I personally don’t believe that. I really don’t think that the cruciferous vegetables, cause much trouble for the thyroid at all. I don’t agree with that. And so I know what is causing the problem with the thyroid is the estrogens. So for that reason. I really tend to take out the gluten, the dairy, the soy, soy all the estrogen free diet, but I get to people that for that reason, then that can eat the cruciferous vegetables that actually are going to have them so then that can make more good estrogen.
Bill Clearfield 1:36:28
Do you find trying to lower the antibodies in the thyroid patients? is useful at all or no? Oh, absolutely.
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Actually, I have so many patients who had antibodies in the 1000s. When I put them on the estrogen free lifestyle. They all do very well. The antibodies all of a sudden start coming down. Also when I detoxify them, the antibodies start coming down so you can see the results.
Bill Clearfield 1:36:57
Question in the in the chat is we order Aricept to increase acetylcholine in the brain of patients with dementia. How does that fat it fit in with your theory of high acetylcholine?
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Why so that is one thing that I don’t necessarily agree with. I know for instance, that we know that dementia or Alzheimer’s is due to what I call turbin. So it’s our toxic overload, hormonal imbalance, infections. And nutrient deficiencies. So when you clear all of these pains for the patient, you detoxify them. You’re correct, their hormonal balance, low testosterone and all of these other things. If they have infections, you take care of it. You give them all the nutrients they need. All of a sudden the patient wake up, they do much better compared to if you did not do those things. So I think the approach should be a little different than just given them something that is gonna cause more problems down the road.
Bill Clearfield 1:38:02
Okay, great. Anybody else have any?
1:38:07
I have a question. How do you determine which, which detox that couldn’t you use? I mean, how are you specific and the way you detoxify patients?
1:38:22
Yeah. So you have the phase one, phase two detox. Now about a lot of times, many of the companies that give you the phase one phase two combined, so for instance, core restore by ortho molecular helps you detoxify the liver, so the liver can detoxify the body. So that’s what most of them are doing.
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Okay, thank you. So,
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what do you do about the high cortisol in the women and men?
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So the high cortisol actually I gave them a cortisol, calm, something appeared. capsulation has a product called cortisol calm, so I give them that it does work very well. That Fortunately all the companies the good companies that make nutritional supplements that tend to give you also those things they give you their version of cortisol calm
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Yeah. Lost
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right now Dr. Benoit. Yeah. Okay.
Bill Clearfield 1:39:36
We lose the sound there for a minute.
1:39:37
Okay. Yeah, I’m on.
Bill Clearfield 1:39:39
I think we’re okay now.
1:39:41
Yeah. I think people are putting things in the chat. I don’t know. Okay.
Bill Clearfield 1:39:51
What is your opinion of low dose Naltrexone in Hashimoto? So
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that is one thing that I never used, because are the other protocols that I’m using are working so well. I never really use low dose Naltrexone. Okay, for me doing things naturally, as much as possible has worked out very well. So in my protocols, for anything for Hashimotos for any of the pain that I do work, so then I don’t really see the need of using the low dose Patterson.
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Do you have a standard estrogen free diet you use?
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Yeah, I do have estrogen free lifestyle, I call it and even I had a place on my website where people can send their patients so if some of you are interested and you want to send your patients to our website, so then they can learn more about this and help them with the estrogen free lifestyle. I would I would like to discuss with you and see how we can do that. Okay, thank you.
Bill Clearfield 1:41:03
Can you put in the chat your your website there, Dr. Benoit. Okay.
1:41:08
So the site is called but I have to walk people through it so a tie up pro network.com. So we tapra network.com Our network so when you go there you sign up. A friend Dr. Cliff is signed up on it. So if you sign up then you have access to a bunch of stuff but just look at health. Look at nutrition, look at all of that and allows you to gain through things. I have videos that have a lot of information there for many people to learn. Even take courses if they want to Oh, by the way, I put Dr. Clearfield I put this this forum on our network as well. So
Bill Clearfield 1:41:59
that was unsolicited, by the way.
1:42:01
Right. It was actually said actually I decided to put it down because it’s so good. Because all these lectures that people have been doing has to be in one place. So I put it on our TabPro network. So people who are interested, they can probably have access to it and they can watch it there
1:42:23
do you like doing iodine and selenium in those with the hyperthyroidism? Yeah, so if
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it has a hyper or hypo you do have a guy because I mean, Dr. Bernstein, or all these other people that tend to find that iodine deficiencies that the big problem that we have, but I think it’s a conundrum of a lot of stuff. The toxic overload, the hormonal imbalance, and infections and nutrient deficiencies. So we had to fix all of them together. Rather than just focus on a few things.
1:43:04
What’s the optimal reference range for T three,
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or you were to three for me? It had to be 3.5 or higher. So pretty free should be 3.5 or higher on the scale up to 4.2. Right? So we should get at least 3.5 Now by the way, do you guys know that law three T three carries more cardiac risk? A lot of people don’t know that. So if you have a patient who consistently has no pretty three, you have to be careful because they can have a cardiac event. That is a signal so you have to make sure that they’re getting in now thyroid
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is I don’t think I have anyone with a 3.5 T three
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maybe one so lower. Yeah, everyone has low.
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Okay, well, you know, so that means you have to really look at the whole thing. I always do 5453, reverse d3, and TSH
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always natural sources
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of iodine. Do you like Celtic sea salt, kelp, and things like that? And all of those will be great. And selenium was sardines in Brazil. Nuts.
1:44:22
Any upside in Brizzy not so silly. No Muay Thai ironing and stuff like that that the supplement company put out like pure encapsulations.
Bill Clearfield 1:44:42
Anybody else have any other questions? So every once in a while, I’ll come across someone who have a TSH of like 4.8 5.0 and then a free T three of about 3.6 or 3.7 and about a half a dozen of those people. So what do you do? With those?
1:44:59
Yeah, so sometimes they are beloved. So I have been battling with the labs, the labs make errors, and that doesn’t make any sense. If it doesn’t make any sense. I sent the beta tests back to them and say, You know what, what you did, it doesn’t make any sense. And by the way, I did do that with one company and we went all the way to the Mayo Clinic because the Mayo Clinic had the same errors. So then they couldn’t fix it. And they keep on giving them the wrong ranges and it doesn’t make any sense. So you have to be really suspicious when things don’t add up. Okay, well, what
Bill Clearfield 1:45:36
about again, again, I have a handful of patients where it’s it’s pretty consistent that that’s those are the numbers that we get.
1:45:44
Yeah, it could be the lab so I don’t know which lab you’re using, but make sure that the lab you using is not making mistakes.
1:45:54
I’ve been recently learning about optimal temperature ranges to determine thyroid function. What do you
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think? I agree with that. So the basal temperature actually tends to be a better gauge of low thyroid so if they’re always in the low 90s and 9697 all the time, that may indicate low thyroid.
Bill Clearfield 1:46:23
I think we were taught 97 Six lower than that. Right. So that’s called back the, so my father was in a personal care home during COVID and we had to go every time I went to go visit them, they took my temperature and I do this consistently. 97 to 96 897 97 two and guess what
1:46:50
would you do you get John thyroid medicine and
Bill Clearfield 1:46:53
I don’t have thyroid man I use that I use the I use the pure encapsulation. I just use the supplements that seems to it seems to hold. Yeah, so
1:47:00
pure capsulation has something called thyroid support complex. That’s the one I use that has tyrosine and that was in and I would die in and stuff so then it helps.
Bill Clearfield 1:47:16
What about T 43. Together
1:47:20
the compound compound a t 43. Occasionally people cannot do well on the Nigeria desiccated pig directs. I actually do that. But I have been lucky use BNP thyroid. Now the problem is those are not stable most of the time they are out of stock or something and so then you use the compounds and that’s fine too. So
Bill Clearfield 1:47:48
what about what in the fillers and the coding and also armored thyroid, you know, it’s had an issue with with that and yeah,
1:47:57
I agree. I’m a thyroid actually contains gluten, by the way, so some patient gain weight on it. So for that reason, I personally don’t do armacao Already lot. The third the other ones that can be thyroid, westfire red and all of these others they available. I rather use those that use the armor power rate.
Bill Clearfield 1:48:21
It’s so NP thyroids a lot less expensive. Well so
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right. Okay.
Bill Clearfield 1:48:30
So, can you give us a brief summary
1:48:34
so a brief summary is that we do have environmental toxins that are affecting so my acronym is Tobin. When we see chronic diseases around I think it’s Mr. Tobin’s fault. Mr. Tobin is the corporate toxic overload hormone imbalance or biologics? I call it biologics. So hormone imbalance, infections and nutrient deficiencies. If we can solve these problems that we can look at these four major components, and we can solve majority of the chronic diseases, including dementia, including Alzheimer’s disease, but most of the time, we’ll look at one thing and we’ll look at this we’ll look at them in silos. And if we do that, we’re not going to get results. So what integrative immunity does, is to use this whole picture of toxins affecting hormones, hormones affecting other hormones and causing more problems for everybody else and then you have the immune system that comes in with all the antibodies to cause more problem for everybody else. So we need to understand that picture and many times people don’t because they don’t master the allergy and immunology portion which I mastered they don’t master very well the hormone portion either. So then you are in between and it becomes very difficult and environmental wise. I think in medical school, all of you would agree we didn’t learn nothing about the environment and the 21st century is made of environmental toxins. And we’re not really taking that into account. That means we’re not going to be able to solve many of the problems that we have.
Bill Clearfield 1:50:34
We have our Dr. Patel is on tonight and she’s one of our resident environmental specialists. He’s been given very quiet tonight Dr. Patel Are you there?
1:50:46
So
Bill Clearfield 1:50:50
she’s on so anyway, anybody else have any comments or questions?
1:50:58
Yes. My question is, it was mentioned about cocoa coming from the Ivory Coast. Correct. And I have read lately there have been a number of lawsuits saying that cocoa especially cocoa powder has lead and cadmium.
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Yeah. I really tell people don’t eat chocolate. That’s one of my things on my list. Even though I come from that country. I mean, I came here a long time ago, but how come from them the number one producer the cocoa. I tell people don’t eat chocolate. The reason is is estrogenic but it’s delicious. It is but it’s it’s it can it can do harm to
Bill Clearfield 1:51:44
you and it’s gonna do you in shell. So,
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and here’s an end of mine which makes people happy but
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yeah, what about garlic? For instance, I tell people don’t do garlic, and I get it prepped for it. I had a patient who came in nurse he said I said only guy said Dr. Tanner, you crazy. You know you mean garlic. Come on. That’s okay, sure. I’m just the messenger. I’m telling you don’t do it. She went home and she stayed away from the garlic. A month later. I get a call this afternoon you wouldn’t believe it. So what I got into it when you told me not to do it. I stopped eating garlic and then I got into it. I thought I was gonna die. I had so much abdominal problems with it. By children who had eczema for instance, how many of you would think of testing garlic as one of their allergies? Many people don’t. But if you do test children who have bad eczema, you will find that majority of them have garlic allergy. They have an IGE mediated garlic allergy. Big time. So garlic is not really good. I don’t tell people not to eat onions they can buy garlic I say don’t do it don’t touch it will be 10 football
Bill Clearfield 1:53:08
we tell people to use garlic to lower their cholesterol right
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right. So garlic extract is another thing because remember that took the extract the Aileen or whatever it is in it and they made the supplement with it. That will be okay. It’s like a green tea right? If you look at the whole green tea plant, it is estrogenic but if you take EGCG or you take L theanine from the green tea, those are good portion that will help the patient now not the whole plant. So it’s turmeric by the way turmeric is is estrogenic so if see a lot of patients who come they say well you know I have turmeric allergy so what happened? Well, I eat it turmeric and I got hives I have all those a lot of women are why that’s because the turmeric is estrogenic is guys like soy. They eat tons of turmeric and they have an estrogen overload to begin with that is driving their hives that they’re going to get a breakout and they get more hives. I even have seen the man who had that. So he was eating cumin and all that I decided he has all been allergic reaction he couldn’t understand. And I said take them out and then you will see what happens and differently. It didn’t match better with that.
1:54:30
Okay, great. Okay.
Bill Clearfield 1:54:36
Dr. Burgess you have anything for us?
1:54:41
Yeah, I might as well ask because I was curious. If you do you treat, assist or refer for thyroid cancer.
1:54:51
I refer for a pirate cancer because cancer treatment is not my specialty. And as you know, this country is very litigious. And because it’s not my specialty, and I don’t know all the things that I need to do. Certainly I can have a supportive role, telling them not to do certain things, or detoxify them and all of that. But I tend to say okay, you better find someone who is smarter than I am. Yes, thank you. So
Bill Clearfield 1:55:23
I don’t know. I don’t know that we’ve come across one anyone yet. That’s smarter than you think you’ve got it. Got it locked here. Maybe Maybe Steve Hartman here but that’s okay. Anybody else? Comments, questions? Thank you so much, Dr. Dan. Oh, this was fabulous. And please don’t be a stranger. Please come back. We have his website here. Pa ye a pro pro networks.
1:55:55
Yeah. yeah.com. And if someone wants to get in touch with me, I can give you my number two. So let me just give people my number. So 95395 to 7378323. You get me directly. And we can chat. Some people are interested in the post that I have. We can talk about that. I mean, I have the mentorship program if anyone is interested in that we can do that. I mean, people are getting really so good, so much good value from it. I think it’s amazing, especially people who do functional medicine. A lot of times you don’t have the time to actually focus on it. You go to a weekend class you come back you forget it. All here. What do we do? We take you by the hand, and step by step we meet every Wednesday or every Tuesday, and then we’ll go over cases after cases and try to hone in and we add up the theory showing how all these are connected and that difference should make it makes a big difference.
Bill Clearfield 1:57:03
Okay, that’s terrific. Okay, so we have that here. 952-737-8323 we have your email address. Don’t like I said don’t be a stranger was a little difficult finding you I would always like to make sure you know we’re gonna have folks once I know you said you were traveling, so
1:57:23
yeah, email address DRB Tarot at Gmail. That’s a simpler one.
Bill Clearfield 1:57:27
Right And so John, we’re getting together a pretty pretty eclectic faculty here. We decided we’re going to do a live
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so the one other question I had is, are you going to be able to get Dr. Tonto for our spring talk?
Bill Clearfield 1:57:58
We’re gonna work on it.
1:57:59
I hope so. Because this is first class lecture and you put everything together. Thank you. Thank you. We’re gonna
Bill Clearfield 1:58:06
we’re gonna we’ll have to be nice to him from now on. It’s still out of character for us. That’s that’s the problem. Okay. Well, thank you all very much. And we’ve got lots of lots of great lectures. You know, thank you for being here. You know we really appreciate it and and next week, you know hide hide you hide your hide your your children hide you hide your hide your folks. We have Dr. Peter McCullough. You know, on so please, you know, tell your friends, tell your enemies. Tell you know, whoever you know, we try to try to get out as we always do try to get a nice crowd. And you know, we’ve had him on before we had him one last year. We had him at our conference last year. He’s been a pretty good friend to us for somebody who’s so you know, in such high demand and such a, you know, prominent figure so, and he’ll be here next Tuesday, same same eight o’clock, Eastern five o’clock cent, Pacific. Dr. Tanto. Again, thank you so much. We’ll put this one our website and I’m going to talk to you about getting our aos or D. Crop on your website, too. We have more than two years worth of lectures, videos, most of them are we have transcripts on also. And so I don’t know who watches them. I don’t get a count or anything. But there’s lots of great lectures on there. So Right. So again, next week we have Dr. Peter McCullough. Michael Nelson will be the week after that. And I said my I told you before my unfortunately my system went out and I lost the my schedule so we’re still filling in a little bit. So anybody who has anything wants to wants to present please let me know. You know, we’re all we don’t we only bite on Thursday. So this is you know, stress free zone especially if you’re new at it at at presenting. This is a good way to get started. We’re not CME credit so you can talk about your your programs, your your, you know, your anything, anything you want. You can use brand names. And so we’ll, we’ll we’ll meet again next week, John, I’m glad you’re feeling better. Here. It’s good to see you. And Dr. Cruz, keep an eye on him for us. And everybody else. Have a great night. We’ll we’ll see you again next week. This will be up on the website as soon as possible. Dr. Khanna I can’t thank you enough. And you’ll be hearing from us again. One of the one of the one of the prices you pay for being competent.
2:01:18
Well thank you for that. So definitely I would like to be part of the group and so we can make things better. Forever. All the causes possible.
Bill Clearfield 2:01:28
Okay. Do you get our emails for our things? Are you on our email list yet?
2:01:33
Yeah, that would be good. Okay, well, when
Bill Clearfield 2:01:36
should I use this Gmail account?
2:01:38
I said DRB tonight, Gmail, so I put in the chat. Okay.
Bill Clearfield 2:01:43
I’ll do that. Okay, well, I’ll make sure you get them okay. All right. Okay. Thank you, everybody. Good night. Good night. Great night, and we’ll see you again next week. Okay,