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Bill Clearfield
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hope everybody missed this last week.
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So we’re waiting for
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speaker so So how’s Pete doing good
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you’re in good shape if you win you’re winning a bingo
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So let’s see okay or is this our speaker
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So, she gets to do all the stuff we’d
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like to do because she’s a vet doesn’t have to answer all the nonsense that we have to put up with. You can hear us Dr. Siegel. We’re all we’re all jealous Sofia. You have to put up with yeah other nonsense. I’m sure.
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They bite the
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Hey guys. How are ya? It’s been a while. Wonderful. What were you commenting on you were jealous.
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We get you get to do all the cool, cool. Anti Aging stuff that we all want to do. But you know we have all these you know, we got to jump through 9 million hoops.
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You can play in my place. Yeah, sorry. I missed you guys for the past. Few weeks. I was in Europe. So I’m home.
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Well, you have to do normal work. Oh,
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absolutely. Well, I’m gonna mute and allow you guys to do your magic.
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Okay, so thanks. Glad to have everybody back. We had a week off last week so
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glad to see you all. It’s been a
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busy it’s been a busy time at our place. And the bizarre things just keep keep becoming more and more bizarre. So
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Where’s your glasses? My glasses on?
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I know you’re on, Bob. So
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you shouldn’t be some kind of sound looks like somebody’s saying some. So
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you’re muted there, Bob.
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I’m sorry. Okay, how about now? You’re good. Okay, great. Good. So
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just wait a couple more minutes and we usually have folks straggle in sometimes up to a half hour after after we start but we only beat them up on Thursdays and Saturdays for
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that and so
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so but thank you for so much for taking this time. Okay, and we’ll be able to get supplier with the whoever was here his contact information if you have any, any want to contact them for anything.
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So. So
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it’s about five o’clock so well, Bob’s got a lot, a lot a lot to present. And so thank you all for being here. Again. We were off last week. You will know who I am. Our guest tonight is Bob said to rename that I say that right? centenary centenary and he’s going to talk to you. He’s going to introduce himself and he’s going to talk to us about hydrogen.
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So Bob, take it away. Okay, I will. Let me just briefly discuss my background. So okay, go ahead. Okay, my backgrounds, Microbiology and Immunology. I got a double master’s degree, and was in research for most of my life ever since I was 20 years old, worked on some pharmaceutical products, immuno modulating agents, and then I gravitated to go into my own consulting business as a Reese. research, clinical research organization. And we did research with mostly dietary supplements again, as a pharmaceutical field because of us. I tended to like the dietary supplements better than then the pharmaceutical So did that and also did research on devices, medical devices and, and nutritional supplements. I have about 64 publications. And I gravitated to doing work with hydrogen and I want to tell you a story of of how I got so enamored, excited and and extraordinarily impressed with hydrogen over the last eight years, you know, all my life I worked on all kinds of research projects as I mentioned, but about eight years ago, that company hired me subcontract and subcontracted my current company co productions to do research on hydrogen water hydrogenated water. And before that, they asked us to do a review article. So my colleague and colleagues and I did a review article on hydrogen about 300 studies or your article and produced the publication’s I’ll show you the results. You know, the what we found later, but this is the reason why I got so impressed and enamored with hydrogen. I thought this is too good to be true. I couldn’t believe it until year after year. I saw more and more studies now after 19 2016 from 300 that we reviewed to over 2000 publications in over 170 degrees. medical conditions. Now I I know this is for many of you who don’t know about this molecular hydrogen. This might seem incredibly amazing because usually the pharmaceutical model is one molecule versus one one drug versus one disease one molecule versus one disease. Well, this has 170 different disease conditions with one one nutrient natural supplement. So I want to start with what is hydrogen? It’s actually two hydrogen molecules, which are the simplest molecule in the periodic table. When you combine them you get molecular hydrogen, or your h2. It’s a gas. It’s tasteless, colorless, odorless, and extraordinarily non toxic. It’s a powerful antioxidant, but don’t too powerful. And I’ll explain why a little bit later. And it can reduce or neutralize dangerous antioxidant and factor the most dangerous, the hydroxyl item iron and others so it’s selective. It’s a selective antioxidant. And here are some of the advantages of molecular hydrogen h2. In high concentrations, it’s extraordinarily well tolerated almost zero, there’s no toxicity in all the studies that we’ve reviewed, or in any animal studies, preclinical and clinical. It since it’s so small, it can diffuse across the cell membrane, into the nucleus. Into the actual DNA, and even into mitochondria, which is outside of the outside of nucleus, of course, but but it’s the only known molecule that could do that. It doesn’t influence any normal physiological activity. It it doesn’t disturb the normal metabolic pathway functions. It works as I mentioned, antioxidant, anti allergy anti inflammatory, it’s a premier cell signature. That’s that’s one of the secrets it can actually talk to cells and makes cells work better. And it’s also a gene regulator. It has an incredibly wide variety of therapeutic benefits, as I previously mentioned. Okay, so we know that it really works within cells and cell signals and instruct cells to do the things in the best way and best way homeostatic processes and we all know cells make up tissues and tissues made of organs, organs, makeup systems and systems making the entire body so everything stems from the basic unit of like the cell. So h2 reduces the harmful oxidants and free radicals, decreases oxidative stress helps control inflammation, inflammation, it’s a wow or for inflammation. It is does a phenomenal number on controlling inflammation, reducing it beyond my wildest imagination. Increases healing of wounds and skin skin appearance, of course regulates genes, improves digestion, has nerve protective effects, and improves memory and nerve function. We’ll get into a little bit more of that later. But here’s the the original research article that my colleagues and I back in 2016 wrote we published in the International Journal of Clinical Medicine and if you don’t the principal author, Dr. Garth Nicholson is a Nobel Prize nominee. And here’s some of my, my other colleagues and myself. And she gay or OTA is coined the father of hydrogen. He’s the one who did the seminal research on hydrogen in nature of medicine in 2007. And that was the springboard for all the following research that is just growing astronomically. And here’s what we we discussed in our review article. If we go around the clock, we discussed the research that was done obesity, dialysis, CVD radiation, neurodegenerative, cancer, infections, metabolic syndrome and type two diabetes, skin problems, neuromuscular diseases, ulcers, and inflammatory processes. So those were all covered in that review article in 2016. Now there are different ways that you can different routes of administration, one is given intravenously through IV infused saline, and then it also if you look at up here it can be placed in eyedrops inhalation devices. These are fairly expensive, but they do produce hydrogen gas. You can drink it through hydrogen rich water and you can be in it. So those are the various routes of administration so works internally and topically. Now I’m gonna go over very briefly the history of hydrogen is kind of interesting as its as its as it progressed through time. But back in 1776, Cavendish Dr. Cavendish identified h2 gas and air and produced water what it when it burned, they found that the when you light hydrogen gas it it actually burned in the byproduct was water. Cat Lavasa year in 78 Three named hydrogen hydro water gene creative creating forms so hydrogen water forming good name is in 1888 Dr. Sin discovered hydrogen in the human intestine. Now hydrogen is made by an intestinal flora and it reaches a certain level. But it’s not enough. I mean you get quite a bit of benefit however, all the research is done on increasing the the amounts of hydrogen taken in those various routes that I mentioned.
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In 1943, and the deep sea diving hardhats, they used combinations of hydrogen and oxygen in deep sea divers and it worked very, very well, but extraordinarily high concentration, of course called Helier, high low really ox 90% air and 280% I hydrogen and 2%. Air in the US Navy was responsible for that. And here’s that seminal article in 2007 by Dr. Odo our go to the father of medicine, shown to be a selective antioxidant and by selective, we mean it only goes after the worst free radicals known to the body not just science, the hydroxyl radical parent nitrate and nitrate and some others, but it it goes after them first, and leaves some good antioxidants. They’re made by the process of making energy by mitochondria, leaves those guys alone. So it’s really kind of a smart unbelievably very selective molecule. And then today, 1013, a good friend of mine, Dr. Tyler Barron formed the molecular hydrogen Foundation, and it’s an educational site foundational, nonprofit organization that has a lot of good information, educational information and research on molecular hydrogen. In 2014, the FDA approved that on its grassless so that was a phenomenal achievement even though it’s it’s very natural and safe. The FDA finally recognized it took them all the way till 2014 to to put it on the FDA grass lift grass list. And 2016 This is really interesting. There are inhalation devices, you know, they’re pretty complicated devices that generate hydrogen gas. And they’re used in hospitals for many different serious cardiovascular diseases, and they’re approved in Japan, China, and Korea. And I think we’re all familiar with oxidative damage, oxidative stress and formed by a number of pollution, high carbohydrates and sugar injuries, alcohol and excess stress medications, especially pharmaceuticals, infections in overexercise interesting now, in my younger days, I did some time lapse micro cinematography, you know, time lapse through a microscope. Use this type of equipment. We’re here you see an inverted phase contrast microscope, and we grow human living cells and photographed with a movie camera, the action that happened over many days and even weeks and I want to show you this really interesting, timeless micro photography of human cells that I added I added a free radical cyclophosphamide, which is an anti cancer antimetabolite And you’ll see when I click this, you’ll see the the results of the cells the here they look normal, there are different shapes in that little round circle and each one of these are the nuclei. So you see that the nuclei the cytoplasm, here’s one with two nuclei, and, and in those are nucleolus nucleoli. So here, I’m going to run this and in about a three day period, you can watch the destruction. Here you see the cells boiling and bubbling. That’s cytotoxicity. That’s the free radicals damaging those cells. You seem rounding up here and here. They round up in an explode or lice and their guts come out. Total destruction by the free radicals here. I think this one appears going to explode there. There’s this one exploded this one day too. So there’s cell lysis. So now you see the entire cell membrane cell monolayer being destroyed by that toxic free radicals. And that’s pretty much how oxidative stress works in free radicals what they do. Now, we don’t some original researchers, my colleagues and my colleagues and I on hydrogen water and I want to briefly go through our findings and you will see some of the interesting mechanisms of actions that we uncovered hydrogenated water is, is the molecule that we use hydrogen within water, and this was published in the A american journal for food nutrition. And white, myself and my colleagues published this and had quite a bit of reviews
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so we first looked at the anti oxidant antioxidant action of h2. And we wanted to confirm how it works within cells. And that video that you saw, we we identified that when we added the Peridot peroxyl nitrate radical in a cell culture. Without this the control without any hydrogen. We saw cell destruction, the cells decreased in die just like you saw on the video. Now when we added the free radical plus hydrogen in water, that hydrogen water, we found that it protected the hydrogen protect the cells against the cell damage showing the true anti oxidant activity. And this was verified over and over again, but we wanted to make sure that this this formula water that we studied, did the same thing as what was reported in past clinical research, double validated, so to speak. And we also looked at glutamate toxicity or glutamate is a very powerful endotoxin excitotoxin. It causes depressions, mood changes, headaches, dizziness, loss of balance, confusion,
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panic attacks, and rage. I had a girlfriend that had the symptoms at one time. So DNA damage was triggered by pathogenic ly high levels of with fame it got a glutamate receptors in neurons and brain cells. And here’s the data that we that we found. If you look at the concentration on the x axis of hydrogen, you see increasing concentrations and this is the plotted value of hydrogen and you see a reduction in glutamate within brain cells. This was statistically significant to the P O one level. Another series of experiments that we did published in this journal, we found that we looked at hydrogen water on intracellular biomarkers. And we looked at glucose update. Here’s the model for glucose is called Keiko to model and this is a cellular model and we have three chambers actually two chambers with the divided by intestinal cells, as you see in the middle here. And the first chamber the chamber below, we added glucose and we looked at we assessed the amount of glucose that was been permeated or was transmitted through the intestinal cells mimicking much like what happens in the in the excuse me. So much like what happens in the blood bloodstream, okay, so we saw a large amount of glucose going through the intestinal cells, and then when we added the hydrogen, h2 plus the glucose, same amount of glucose, we observed that there’s much, much less very much reduced glucose, which was the factor or a mechanism of hydrogen gas. And here you see the hydrogen concentration and eight this is a positive control, but you can see there in each of these concentrations, we saw some pretty good influence of hydrogen permeability.
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Now, we looked at hydrogen water effects on insulin receptors, and you know, all the sites of cells there are these insulin receptors, and they they control glucose, when we added the ionized water, we showed that these became activated, showing more control of glucose in the bloodstream. So two ways one through permeability to the intestinal wall and to the activating and increasing the function of insulin receptor sites. And here’s the data here. You can see increasing concentrations of hydrogen and this is the positive control insulin, and you can see a dose dependent trend of showing good hydrogen activity with increasing concentrations and look showing a the.
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I’m sorry, I’m getting my phone is stuck. So So we showed a good activity of the receptor site activation. Certain one is an anti aging biomarker, and it’s indicated in a lot of these different organs and tissues, having a number of effects, the higher the concentration of cert cert one, the younger the cells it’s definitely definitely a prominent age biomarker.
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And we looked at, again the concentration of hydrogen and positive control and we showed again, the certain one increase with higher concentrations of hydrogen water
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we looked at then at the water effects hydrogen ice water on anti aging associated telomere race. Telomerase is the protective enzyme that protects the length of telomeres. The longer the telomeres on the end of chromosomes, the younger the cells there you see a cell and chromosome blown up. And of course the telomeres keeps the DNA from leaking out. So we want to keep those telomeres long and tell them race is acts on and stabilizes repairs. The telomeres. So you can see the young chromosome here with long telomeres, and the older one with short telomeres, cute little cartoon. And then we saw in our research effects, the telomerase activity on human cells, and we noticed that this concentration we saw 149% increase in telomere race concentration. What’s a story about Scott Kelly discuss Scott killing the man on the right was sent up into outer space. And by the way, this is his twin brother. I forgot his name, but he’s other Mr. Kelly. So Scott was set up in the in the International Space Station with the with the Russian guy, and they spent a full year doing research and space with within that International Space Station. Well of course they they love what they do. So they had a good time. They had very little little stress because they enjoyed what they did and they were not, you know, confronted with us the social things down on Earth. They had great food they breathe very healthy, good air, they probably had some hydrogen in it. And they had an excellent diet. So when Scott came back down to earth, He they studied him very carefully and they compared his blood values with his brother’s an identical twin. And the theory is they shouldn’t be the same. However, Scott’s telomeres were much much longer than his brother’s interesting find. And of course there’s a lot of other things too. We he looked a little bit younger, visually, and he grew a little bit taller, I think because of age toys. So interesting, interesting results, but the main main thing is, is telomeres were much longer than then then his brother’s identical twin years. Here’s one of my heroes, Dr. Elizabeth Blackburn. She she discovered telomeres and telomerase and got the Nobel Prize for that research. Interesting. And we looked at this glutathione which is the master, super antioxidant made by the cells of the body. It protects the brain. It improves mental focus clarity, stress, increases energy improves performance and recovery and slows the aging process is one fantastic antioxidant. We looked at that, in particular to see what effects hydrogen had on glutathione well as we age, we could see that the glutathione levels decrease as the oxidative stress increases. So literally at the age of 58, close to 60. That’s the key point where it just goes up. The oxidative stress level goes up dramatically. And glutathione glutathione goes way down to almost non existent. So it’s a very important antioxidant. We want to keep that level up as long as we possibly can. So here’s this G S H is glutathione. That’s the the acronym for that. And you can see a very nice dose response again with high increasing levels of glutathione with hydrogen iced water the NRF two is an interesting pathway. And it’s a great messenger pathway that that protects against injuries and inflammation, phenomenal interaction with inflammation by controlling it and and having a great value to that. We found that or again in historically NRF two activates the survival enzymes. It improves cellular function removes the detoxifier it lowers aging slows down the clock of aging. It helps with autophagy eliminate limiting destroyed cells and protects against cellular stress. So it’s a very important pathway. So in our research on hydrogen, we found that again a dose dependent response, the higher the dose, the normal normalized B. The NRF two pathway was so that created a enhancement of that NRF two so in summary for the research that we did in published my colleagues and I, we found the antioxidant capability protecting cells from oxidative stress. Much like what you saw in that that video number two, we looked at the reduction of glucose via the permeability through the intestinal wall and the activation of insulin receptor sites. And we looked at the anti aging action with the cert one and tell them erase. We also looked at neuro protection against glutamate toxicity and again, increasing the antioxidant and brain cells of the very powerful glutathione antioxidant. And we saw the master regulator NRF two signaling was promoted enhanced. Now I want to go over summary of some other h2 studies and these are pretty amazing because, again, everything here is backed by peer reviewed and published clinical and preclinical studies. So we end with bone and joint pain he was able to boost and repair the cell process of injured bones. It supports healthy joints and nerves around the bone as bone area improves range of motion and there are more but these are the the key discoveries that were made with bone and joint health. And, as I mentioned the cardiovascular support. There are hospitals in quite a few now and growing in Korea, Japan and China. Using inhalation devices and a lot of these plus drinking water, prevents blood vessel damage. Improves the heart function improves circulation reduces heart, cardiovascular heart infarct in rats, prevents heart failure in rodents increases rate of recurrent carry after heart failure that was mostly studied in rodents, but more studies are being done in newer studies. In humans with with really interesting results, preserves graph store and organ transplantation especially kidney kidney, renal transplants and reduces morbidity during an after stroke. There’s quite a bit of cardiovascular benefits with the use of both insulation and drinking hydrogen water
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in human studies with diabetes and pre diabetes, metabolic syndrome, oxidative stress is shown in the kidneys, energy metabolism was increased. Total Cholesterol was was normalized or reduced significantly as well as LDL reduction. Insulin resistance was improved and psoas muscle glucose
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in animals with radiation This is interesting. There’s a lot of work done with radiation animals to to skin and test in long, hard all these different organs showing some protective effects in humans, reducing the side effects of radiation and protective effect on the damage caused by radiation on skin leaves, you know, ulcers and lesions on the skin. And the quality of life was also improved in a number of different experiences. With radiation and cancer in chemotherapy also. Now, with immunity, there’s a terrific anti inflammatory effect with hydrogen. Again, it regulates and cell signal cells making them work better, improves the mitochondrial function. Memory leaves the good free or free radicals produced by the mitochondria, leaves them alone and only goes after the most invasive and destructive free radicals especially the Oh H radical. And it kind of brings the buy balances or for most to become in a homeostasis position now bathing in h2o water that’s one of the ways of administration. Bye bye. Putting hydrogen gas in bathtubs or bathing YouTube devices putting feed into pans that that are that have hydrogen water it stimulates in the face decreases wrinkles and stimulated collagen Productions is shown with biomarkers and again reduces oxidative stress, inflammation and review reduces damaging effects of UV I’ll show you this. This is a plaque psoriasis. Now if you look at this let’s take the upper A across the top of the screen. This was a gentleman who had our plaque psoriasis. He had a little on his chest. And this was eight weeks after treatment with hydrogen and drinking water and here’s his back before treatment and his back eight weeks later, so you can see quite a significant reduction in this plaque psoriasis. Another case case two across the board, a little more severe case. The gentleman’s abdomen was had some very and these are painful, itchy, plaque psoriasis according to this research publication, and you can see the results after eight weeks therapy and quite a bit of clearing they’re in here versus this before versus after. And again on the back to this is the baseline and the treatment after eight weeks. And in case three. You could see another plaque psoriasis case where this gentleman had quite a few lesions and here’s after eight weeks on his back before and eight weeks later. So quite a bit of good responses. And this was done in in quite a few experiments as well as the damage caused by radiation. In exercise, mental Soccer, Soccer Players were given h2o water and for one week and they showed that lactic acid was reduced. Their muscle function was increased there. Peak muscle muscle torque was not affected but they did get very good post exercise recovery. They recovered very well after you know very hard games and health unhealthy people not really more normal people that that have no severe chronic illnesses. Fatigue was reduced. Infections, infection rates were lower or the severity of infections are lessened. Weight is managed. significant reduction in weight over time. The aging effect less aging occurred. Pain inflammation was decreased. How how’s your water was able to heal burns and bruises faster recovery time. skin appearance was improved. heart function was was improved flexibility, mental function and quality of life. So these these were observed in healthy populations and safety is used for over 20 Some years and in people without any adverse effects. What it’s almost impossible to see any side effects or any untoward effects when you drink it and no reported side effects that we could find in all the literature and animals in in humans and animals that we we read and it’s still ongoing today. With the ongoing research no no severe side effects. Now, some enamored by the studies and the research that I did and others that I wrote a book. This is for late people. It’s called Live healthier, better and longer with hydrogen h2. And it’s a simple, easy to read book. Most of us can read it within an hour an hour and a half. It’s kind of fun. It has cartoon images that complement the text. There’s some stories that I tell on this and it’s literally the hydrogen character that helps the cells of the body work better. And that’s all kinds of cells in a lot of different organs that that I talked about that the how they communicate and signal each other mainly hydrogen signaling cells. And if you look at all of these organs and tissues, these are all covered in my book. So it’s almost every organ of the body and tissue. So again, as I mentioned before, it gets through every organ, every cell, every system of the body. And that’s it. This is my end of the presentation. That’s my book if you want more information, it’s h2 improves health.com You’re welcome to get more information. Or if you’re, if you’re inclined to order it special discounts for healthcare professionals. So, so let you know maybe you might enjoy it or at least share it with your patients. Thank you very much. Thank you, Bob.
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Public questions in the chat, what kind of contraindications and what about in auto immune
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situations? Well, with many other indications, especially there are some with auto immune conditions. The only contrary indication is perhaps taking too much. But in these studies, if you go by the recommended dosing of either drinking it or inhaling it, there was no adverse untoward or severe side effects zero. So in many other disease conditions that were studied also no contra indications, contraindications, no drug nutrient interactions, and no drug drug nutrient interactions. In fact, in some studies with cancer patients, it was the hydrogen was able to help the the promote the healing effect of chemotherapeutic agents. They work synergistically showing better responses with hydrogen in addition to the chemotherapy
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our different ways you can get it.
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There are many sites online but you have to be careful. There are let’s go through some that I know. One is the easiest is taking hydrogen water drinking get through these already administered packages or even cans that contain hydrogen at a at a therapeutic dose. Remember, you have to drink it fairly fast because it dissipates very rapidly. So drinking is one and you can get it through online sites and most of them are the ones that are not don’t have the proper hydrogen amounts are used are now either off the market or you just check into the background and you’ll see. So the hydrogen water again these the it’s already pre made in pouches or cans. There’s also hydrogen tablets, which you can drop into a glass of water 16 ounce glass of water and they’re made with minerals that when they contact the water, especially magnesium and some others the EPA vests like like Alka Seltzer, they produce gas bubbles of hydrogen and increase the concentration or infuse the hydrogen in the water. You drink that pretty quickly and you get a good dose of hydrogen as you drink the water. Another way is hydrogen inhalation devices and these are eg either electro loop devices through electrolysis or PMS membranes. And there’s quite a few different ones different levels but they all produce a good concentration. But you have to make sure they have the correct flow rate. And this can be you know, shown online there’s different concentrate different flow rates. And but most of the good ones if you look up the main ones that have the biggest notoriety and sales, those are the good ones, but there are 1000s of dollars. To me drinking it is much cheaper. Then you can get an IV but you need to go to a clinic or a hospital in order to get IV administration. That’s not really well. Well situated in the US. However other countries do this routinely. And as I mentioned, approved in hospitals in Japan, China. And in Korea. There’s quite a few there’s dozens and dozens of them. And the last way is to bathe it like last week but another way is to be that where you can get a hydrogen infusion device a machine that will pump or infuse hydrogen and bathwater and you follow the instructions then you Mercer’s your entire body in a bath. Or if you have like say like a cubic with ulcers on the foot or hands or chest you can go into a container of water like a pan of water and immerse your hands and feet in there. And I’ve seen some very dramatic effects I have quite a few friends that are using hydrogen in this this this way to reduce ulcerations skin lesions rashes and even swelling and unless Lastly, there aren’t drops to there are hydrogen loaded eyedrops which you can place in your eye for different conditions. And it helps with eye health. So and then there’s also one other is injection and I don’t recommend that it’s done either interpret pair to nearly nearly or subcutaneously I think the easiest way is to drink it and probably the least expensive and how expensive is it ranges the the hydrogen pouches are like three years $3.50 each drink one pouch a day or if you have a severe chronic illness then it’s up to up to three or four. I myself my senior citizen as a senior citizen I drink two to three of those a day. That’s my personal dosing, but I I’m in fairly good condition except for some aches and pains and fatigue every once well. So that’s what I do. I also tried the hydrogen tablets, they’re very good and that ranges The price ranges anywhere from 30 to $80 for a month supply and the the machines the inhalation devices or the infusion devices are anywhere from two to $20,000. There’s all different types. The medical devices are that are used in hospitals or 20 plus
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let’s see the
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that’s about it. That’s it. Those are the most common ways of getting even the administration of hydrogen and the pricing
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Dr. Siegel that she’s our integrative veterinarian. I have used hydrogen water for seven years of units at home than in the office. I have lived blood studies showing expansion to the fourth phase of water and resolving Reuleaux my preference in machines that use wet technology reaction with magnesium versus electrolysis Yes. Great. Common relations like a seagull That’s music to my ears.
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Yeah, you do. Do you do the mic? Microscopy the the lifestyle by tech microscopy yourself?
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I do I do, like do light field microscopy. Yes.
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Great. You have done some of that to I didn’t test with hydrogen but others. I love that type
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of work. Oh, it was amazing. We would give it to either a person or an animal. We do the pre give them a drink and test within 10 minutes. And there’s you can’t even begin to imagine the difference in the red blood cells.
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Well 10 minutes after cuz after they drink the hydrogen water. Yeah, just 10 minutes in both animals and humans. Yes, sir. Fantastic. Wow. You may want to think of publishing that work.
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You know, the FDA would be so happy with that, wouldn’t it? I think I’ll stay under the radar.
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Understood what I share within my own family here. Yeah. Where can IV IV be sourced?
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Over and I know that does it routinely and very well. is mainly Japan, China and Korea. They have it’s approved for hospital use in in those countries. And there are external clinics, private clinics that do that. But I am not sure I really don’t know of any, any place in the United States that does IV administration of hydrogen
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about Is there any place to get the machines for the baths? Oh,
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yes. I thought I thought you asked about high IV. I did. Is that first okay. Yeah. Yes, there are. And you can google and evaluate them for yourself. I do not represent any company or don’t sell anything directly. And my recommendation is to Google you know, molecular hydrogen and inhalation devices, and you will see probably the top four or five or four or five companies that that are on top of the Google Search. They’re probably the best. In my knowledge. I know more I read about what they do with a read about their site, and I’ve even seen certifications and you might want to look at that the devices that are certified by third party investigators that that look into the safety and the flow rate and the concentration of the hydrogen that comes out of the machine. Again, there are some that that use hydrogen water and some are inhalation and some are both but if you want both those are the highest priced
Bill Clearfield 57:06
Dr. Fitzpatrick Siskin where Shouldn’t you find the I protocol?
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The I protocol can I suggest one thing? If you go on Google Scholar? If you can’t find it, then please send me your email address and I’ll send you the articles. But it’s very easy. Go on Google Scholar and type in molecular hydrogen. And treatment for eyes eye conditions, molecular hydrogen, and you’ll see about maybe seven or eight to 10 studies published studies and they have different levels of administration of hydrogen loaded eyedrops and look at the studies that you’re interested in and choose the best dose but you know you can. You can do it yourself if you have a Millipore filter, you know, a bacterial filter by putting in hydrogen water and then putting it in a sterile eyedropper and then adding the eyedrops yourself in hydrogen iced water but I would recommend highly recommend looking at the publication’s you’ll be surprised about all macular degeneration and all kinds of conditions. You google scholar google hydrating treatment for eye conditions.
Bill Clearfield 58:37
Okay. All right. That’s all the questions in the chat. I have a little summary for us there but
58:45
yeah, I want to again, we reinforced my enthusiasm for doing this. Getting into this in the last eight years doing the research and writing my book. And it was mainly because of just think about it 2000 studies in 170 170 conditions. I mean, what medication what drug what any, what dietary supplement? What antioxidant can do all that name, main one, I can’t and I was in pharmaceutical research, nutrient nutrient research, dietary supplement research and device research. I can’t think of any that even comes close to what hydrogen can do in
Bill Clearfield 59:36
hydrogen you do but I got I got two that are fairly diverse or just off the top of my head so Okay,
59:41
I like to do methylene blue is one
Bill Clearfield 59:47
and low dose Naltrexone was another
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methylene blue, the dye the dye yeah yeah, we I’m not familiar with that. too. But, but it would it would it would it would each of those close to what hydrogen does as you saw and by
Bill Clearfield 1:00:10
the way, not Not, not, not not as as diverse as as you’ve covered but they do have both that burden. pretty broad spectrum coverage of
1:00:22
do they have? Do they have hundreds or 1000s of publications? Actually they do? Yeah. Oh, fantastic. Okay, great. Well, let’s do I’m gonna look into those. Okay, thank you. And the other thing that
Bill Clearfield 1:00:33
came to mind with as maybe as a combination is, especially with like wound care and whatnot, what about here we go. Here’s my here’s my old timers disease. The oxygen tank, what is it the
1:00:52
hyperbaric oxygen Yeah, there were studies with hyperbaric and in hydrogen shown very good results with with the combination compared to just hyperbaric alone. And I know doctors that are used utilizing that in actually Irvine California Center for new medicines is doing that and getting some really good results. Okay, okay.
1:01:18
What about the water pictures? The hydrogen like the purify, they are pretty highly rated people study him and actually test them $231 Because it’s prime deal day, by the way. It’s a hydrogen water pitcher rich hydrogen water generator, electrolysis jug with SPE and PE M concentrator technology, balanced purified water pH levels and filtered with calcium sulfite and they’re showing her for $232.
1:01:50
What are what are the PPM that are produced by that picture? 1500 50 ppm or P B M parts per billion are these pa that’s its parts per billion Correct?
1:02:04
1800 milliliters? No,
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I mean, the parts per million of hydrogen after it generates the hydrogen, what’s the final concentration? Right.
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Okay, I really foundation is 700 parts, ppb to 900 ppb Okay,
1:02:27
that’s parts per billion. So that means it’s, it’s, it’s point seven parts per million, which is on the lower end of the therapeutic dose, but it’s still may provide benefit and it’s it’s a pretty good price. But I would spend a little bit more and go with a device that produces higher PP ends or PPBS. And a good a good dose would be about 1.3 to 1.8. And I think that’s maybe the some of the highest concentration you can get in a machine generated hydrogen, which is good. But point seven or point eight PPM might be on the low side. However, the minimum therapeutic dose in the scientific literature was point eight, so it’s still good. Okay, look,
1:03:20
I had it wrong. Actually, the hydrogen concentration for the strong infusion is 1300 ppb. So they do go to 1300 standard infusion of pure hydrogen into the drinking water I guess if you wanted to save money was seven denied.
1:03:36
Okay, good. So 1300 is good. That’s 1.3 PPS, so that’s great. That’s excellent. I think that that would be definitely worth the price. Right? Look, seems like it’d be helpful. How long does it take? To generate that hydrogen to that concentration? 1.3 1300 p, b M’s. They don’t say that. Okay, because some of those might take 20 minutes or more. Gotcha. So that’s a potential downside, but no big deal. You just wait 20 minutes and drink. Exactly. Yeah. Thank you. You’re welcome. So one of
Bill Clearfield 1:04:23
my one of my one of my colleagues and students says, How come I haven’t asked you yet about what the effects are of hydrogen on
1:04:29
hormone levels? There are trying to I’m having a senior moment too. There’s so many studies. It’s I know there are hormone studies and biomarkers on hormones. I’m trying to remember them. And again, you can go on to Google Scholar and and type in molecular hydrogen and hormone responses. Okay, and then they’ll get to the to that they’ll get to the publications, but I offhand, I just cannot remember the studies with specific hormones. I should know this and I will definitely push up it. I don’t want to be caught like this again.
Bill Clearfield 1:05:22
Okay. There you go. You know, we we were we tripped you up. Okay. Joel set rates. They have purified hydrogen water pitcher machines that Amazon
1:05:37
Okay, yes. So that that’s a source. I mean, there’s quite a few sources. You may want to just look at the websites and see for yourself, how they’re how they how they make it as one, but I would look for certifications. Look at the ones that have, you know, put their money where their mouth is in pay for their product to be certified by independent research laboratories.
1:06:09
Okay. Okay,
Bill Clearfield 1:06:12
can you can you repeat again the said Go Google website. What
1:06:16
which one is it again? Google Scholar, right. You may also find it on PubMed or Google Scholar. Sometimes it’s deeper, you get more. It gets it gets a lot of the smaller studies it finds smaller studies and most of the hydrogens studies are done on you know, small populations. That’s one of the criticisms. However, there’s so many and you see the same effects over and over and over again repeated. It’s just almost too too good to be true as far as I’m concerned. It’s, it works so well. And in both animals, and man, and plants, too.
Bill Clearfield 1:07:04
I wanted to write it put it in chat for everybody to get what was could you just repeat it again?
1:07:09
What’s the website or the study? That Google Scholar right got that? And you type in molecular hydrogen, and whatever else you want, bone health, bone conditions, or heart conditions. Now just to name a condition type in hydrogen, molecular hydrogen in blank, fill in the blank and you’ll see a plethora of publications. Some have dozens of studies and some have quite a bit but they’re very significant and well done.
Bill Clearfield 1:07:46
And we’re going to have Dr. Kiley Smith, look up molecular hydrogen and hormone alterations and report back to us next week. So
1:07:56
okay, you can also do one other thing to bill in your in your chat second year. Where are we going to post this? Look at the molecular hydrogen Institute website, molecular hydrogen institute.org. I’m assuming that’s all one word. Yes. molecular hydrogen Institute. Also letters I guess. I think so.
1:08:36
You can just do the three words and you’ll you’ll see the site it’s it’s Dr. Tyler Barron set that up. And yes, quite a few very, very well known hydrogen experts that work with him for getting the educational information. And he also posts the entire articles of hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of studies. So you can read for yourself. All the conditions that are many of the conditions I don’t think it’s up to date, because it only studies are being done. I’m just I think in the last month, there’s like 10 new studies,
Bill Clearfield 1:09:14
or any of those links in your book I have a question.
1:09:17
Yes. Great. Yes. The book. Okay. All right.
Bill Clearfield 1:09:24
Anybody else have any comments or questions?
1:09:28
Yeah, I’d like to say one thing to Bob. And he does have a book available in the Spanish language. And you know, if you have someone that doesn’t, you know, understand English that well and they speak Spanish. It’s an excellent book to have on hand.
Bill Clearfield 1:09:49
Yep, sorry. I just skipped over that show. I
1:09:51
didn’t I know but I mean, I’m not gonna give a plug to the excellent translator. But just as Bob has heard available, I heard
1:09:59
many positive attributes about how well the book was translated into Spanish by Clara. Stein. Thank you. All right. Very well done. Okay,
Bill Clearfield 1:10:17
anybody else? John, you got anything for us?
1:10:19
Everything is excellent here and appreciate the good talk.
1:10:24
Thank you very much.
1:10:26
And I’m gonna be in touch because I heard you say earlier you did research and I’m picking up his buddies brain that does research.
1:10:34
Yeah. I’ll be glad to talk to you. If you want. You can call me to my, here’s my cell phone number. I’ll be glad to talk to you anytime.
1:10:44
Excellent. I’ll go through we’ll and we’ll communicate trying to do some good here.
1:10:50
Okay, terrific. Thank you very much.
1:10:52
Thank you, Bob. I
Bill Clearfield 1:10:54
got another question here. What do you think of deuterium depleted water?
1:11:01
I’m not I don’t know enough about it to to really respond. To that very well. And so I’ll reserve my judgment, although I did not get good responses from other researchers that that talked about it so I’m gonna stay away from that. I just don’t know enough about it to give you a personal opinion. Or knowledgeable, right.
Bill Clearfield 1:11:28
I think you answered this already. But did you endorse a specific company for the ones that convert water and also good h2 tablets?
1:11:38
I did. I didn’t endorse any company. I just recommended that you Google hydrogen devices, molecular hydrogen devices, electro hydrogen tablets, and molecular hydrogen water and you’ll get all the the companies that have various products. And again, some of those companies have been certified and went through the testing and are very good. Okay, great. Okay. Okay, again,
Bill Clearfield 1:12:11
I’m at the bottom of my questions here. I gotta thank you. Okay. Thank you. You’re welcome. Lots of kudos here from from our crowd. I’d like
1:12:23
to know the feedback if possible, any way you can. Let me know what if there’s a scoring system or Well, we
Bill Clearfield 1:12:31
don’t really have a scoring system but
1:12:37
a willingness knocking on your door
Bill Clearfield 1:12:39
usually usually we like fry your computer if we don’t like you, so that’s good. That’s funny. Reverse versa. Zapper.
1:12:52
Yes. The punishment for not doing
Bill Clearfield 1:12:54
well. Actually might be a reward. And then you go out and live in the real world instead of sitting in front of a computer all day long, right?
1:13:03
Yeah, yeah.
1:13:05
That was a great presentation. And I love the fact that you were not branded. So there wasn’t any bias you really had a lot of a lot of science behind what you were talking about, and I really appreciate that. And I know a lot of companies out there so if anybody is interested, I’ll tell you where not to go and then give you some places to go or research that are certified have, you know, the third party review and I have a lot of competence and so I’m happy to share if anybody’s interested. I hate for you to make an expensive mistake.
1:13:40
Terrific. How can I get in touch with you?
1:13:43
Oh, just it’s in the chat but my email is m seagull dvm@gmail.com. I don’t know how to get back to the general chat because I’m kind of in this go
Bill Clearfield 1:13:54
to the top and go to everyone. MC co dvm@gmail.com.
1:13:58
I don’t see an every one thing.
1:14:06
I think I have it there for you. Okay, thanks. So, okay, and I have it
Bill Clearfield 1:14:13
you know, we have it just in case so, because I didn’t get that right. So great to be back, everybody. Okay, so you were missed. Thank you. That means we’re gonna have to have you on for another chat with oh, you
1:14:26
know what I’d like to do for you guys. We’re getting ready to launch a it’s a fossa decompression course, that I did with Deanna Hanson. launches at the end of this month and she said she would love love, love to do a co presentation with me for you guys. Okay, truly miraculous, and she does it on people. I do it on animals.
Bill Clearfield 1:14:49
That was August 8, so I will talk with her if I was gonna let you go off on that one. Yeah,
1:14:58
I love it. August eighth works for me. I’ll check with her and let you know. Okay.
1:15:05
Once it, Bill, I’m sorry. I’m not able to see the chat.
Bill Clearfield 1:15:12
Down at the bottom there there’s a hole Okay.
1:15:15
Got it. Okay. Okay. Terrific. Thank you very, very much. Appreciate it. Okay. So
1:15:28
I appreciate everybody that’s on here. We got a bunch of diehards. We’re doing some good work so thanks to Bill and Bob seminarian, all you other good guys, Joe, you kicking ass. So thank you everybody, including Marlene who’s been helping us out. It’s much appreciated. Thank you.
Bill Clearfield 1:15:52
Thank you. And so next week, Steven Hartman is going to be giving us an update on his work with the prostate people from Europe. And I think he’s involved in another project. So that’s
1:16:10
my doing that next week. Next week. I had some of the different plans.
Bill Clearfield 1:16:13
Oh, okay. Yeah. You know what I can’t um, so I’m looking forward here. Whatever you had planned this fine.
1:16:20
Well, yeah, I had something very fun planned, something not so sick, traditional lecture, but more dynamic. So what we’re going to be talking about is viral treatment post pandemic, what we’ve learned, and it’s going to be I really want to learn what kind of brainstorm what everyone else has been using in the pandemic, what has worked, what hasn’t worked, and we’re gonna put it in a list. And we’re gonna we’re gonna put it on the internet so that other people can learn from what we’re doing.
Bill Clearfield 1:16:45
You really you really want them they after me don’t you don’t have enough service as you know IT services. I do. But he got there know what services? Absolutely. Right. What’s happened in the last three weeks here? Well, I’m gonna do all of my communications except my phone was shut down because someone decided I was a marijuana dispensary. Yeah, we’ll try to get it on done. And then and then the forces of evil are out there and my certified courses have been decertified
1:17:26
with no explanation. So as my gosh,
1:17:32
the AMA has come after him now. Not just the AOA.
1:17:35
Yeah, so the one that Hala loves so much yeah that way that one they’re terrorists
Bill Clearfield 1:17:45
really want to put the put the final nail in my coffin though.
1:17:49
Yes there terrorist agree. And
Bill Clearfield 1:17:53
jacket by so we were in Florida at the end of April. I left my jacket and Steve’s card remember? That interview that we did? Yeah.
1:18:01
I got a box. I got the I got the jacket. I got a box. I’m ready. Just send me your address. I’ll ship it off tomorrow.
Bill Clearfield 1:18:06
I told you I pay you for it.
1:18:09
All right. I just need your address.
1:18:11
Is it a big green one? No, it’s
1:18:14
like a gray blazer. It’s got a hole in the shoulder. I didn’t do it.
1:18:20
Where’s the biggest green jacket you’ve ever seen in your life during the winter? It’s absolutely amazing.
Bill Clearfield 1:18:27
Well, you know you live in Reno long enough, you end up with a thyroid disease. So I’m cold all the time. I moved 2500 miles to live to be cold. I thought I thought I was going to someplace warm. You know, you go to Nevada, I made a wrong turn
1:18:43
off the desert.
Bill Clearfield 1:18:45
And yet it’s the wrong one part of the desert.
1:18:48
negative 21 Negative 22 Sometimes here Did you know
Bill Clearfield 1:18:56
great. Anyway, so next week’s the whatever you’re going to do, that’s fun. Let’s do something fun. Yeah, fun. And what do you have your string in tennis rackets behind you there Tada. No,
1:19:07
that’s my my tennis partner are Tim a string of my rackets for me.
Bill Clearfield 1:19:15
All right, great. All right. Anybody else have any comments or questions? And John, how’s the school coming along?
1:19:23
Everything is like Excellent. Great. And we’ve been sticking together here for a few years. So it’s kind of wonderful. We need to put on an East Coast Conference or if anybody has any ideas email me.
Bill Clearfield 1:19:38
Oh, yeah, we did a I forgot we did a hands on it at my office. This week. We had five people come in. We had a really good time. We did. Testosterone pellet implant everybody got to do it is what was the thing. So we did testosterone pellet implants. We did Botox treatments. We did dermal fillers, I did a demo. I did a PDO thread thread lift and they just watched that none of them just seen it seen it before. So you know, it’s uh, you know, See One, Do One, Teach One so they’re ready to ready to do one. So we’ll, we’ll arrange another one of those if anybody’s interested and hands on if you want to learn how to do it, not just this kind of theory. So we have to we have to meet in person for that. So I’m sure Johnny will have you have come accommodations for us, right.
1:20:27
Hopefully. Okay. All right. So,
Bill Clearfield 1:20:31
Bob, thank you so much again. And thank you for your time and your scholarship and your expertise. We’ll we’ll send you our participant list along the way. Here’s and this will be on YouTube, it will actually it goes on our website and since a lot of them are ending up on YouTube, and it’s under my name and I I apparently have have enough of getting a lot of subscribers which I’m not even that, you know, advertising or anything. And I have enough if anybody knows how to do it. I apparently have enough subscribers on following your following. Yeah. But uh, you know, I’m not trying to monetize it. So if anybody knows how to do that, let
1:21:20
me know. Yeah, that won’t work bill. Yeah, you’re too controversial. They won’t monetize you.
Bill Clearfield 1:21:25
They won’t. Okay, well, whatever. They told me I had I had enough subscribers to be monetized so like they sent me I don’t pay attention to that stuff. I don’t understand it. So. So but it’s on there. So it’s on it’s on our website. Aos rd.org/webinars As always. Okay, all our all of our all of our programs are on there. We’ve been here for about two and a half years now. And they’re all there are most of them are there anyway, except for at the turn on the recording. A couple of types. But, and like I said, we’ll be here again next week, same time, same station. If anybody has anything else you want to present please let me know. We’re always happy to have newcomers and you know, we only we only fillet the the speakers on Thursdays and Fridays, so you’re safe on Tuesdays. Okay, and Bob Bob, again, thank you so much for your time and expertise and please come back. And if you don’t mind if we want we can put you on our email list. So every once in a while you’re here every Tuesday 5pm Pacific 8pm Eastern, and and if you know anything new to share, please let us know. We’re always happy to to be the first the first in line and don’t worry, I’m getting pretty good. It’s taken fire for everybody. So get used to it. Okay. So with that. Anybody else? Any any any any comments and anything? Any? So tell me now Steve, anything in the latest on that on the prostate project at all?
1:23:18
Yeah, I’m working on that and piecing together some cases and I need your cases but you gotta send me that and put together a lecture. Okay.
1:23:26
Okay. All right. Yeah.
Bill Clearfield 1:23:28
At that. We’ll say goodnight to everybody. And we’ll see you again next week. I’ll have this up as soon as I get it ready. And we’ll talk to you again.
1:23:38
Thank you very much. Thank you. Oh, thank you. Oh,
Bill Clearfield 1:23:41
can I join