Molds, Mycotoxins and the Brain-An Evidenced Based Presentation by Dr. Andrew Campbell

 

Tuesday Integrative Health Webinar

Tue, Oct 04, 2022 4:49PM • 1:53:24

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SPEAKERS

Bill Clearfield

 

Bill Clearfield  00:42

Hey there we renamed myself candles here so sweet Dr. Campbell Hi, how are you? Great how are you? Thank you for joining us again. We’re always happy to have you. Thank you. I’m trying to remember what were you with us? You were with us in Las Vegas. Were you there live? Are you online? When I was in Las Vegas I was there actually were there right yeah, it’s been a while we a lot has happened to our groups since then. No. Reading everything. Oh, you’ve been reading it. Okay. Yeah, they fired us twice. So where were the bad boys? I guess so.

 

01:47

The bad boys. I think we’re the naughty

 

Bill Clearfield  01:49

boys. Were the naughty boys. Yeah. And the ones who act will actually think for ourselves that you can’t have that.

 

01:55

No, that’s a big no, no.

 

Bill Clearfield  01:59

Can’t can’t have that right. Yeah. waiting by the way. You know what that is? That is my daughter did that when she was six years old. She brought it home from school. Wow. It was. So this is actually if you’ll see it’s brown. It’s actually butcher block paper. And the teacher had them lay down and she drew it they drew up an outline of them on it and they gave them Finger Paints and said finger painting your finger paint yourself what do you see in yourself and you brought that home? So I I want to see if I can get it. Better here. See the head you can see the girl come yet she would. She would she was six when she blinds and I liked that I framed that I take it with me wherever I go. Now, up in the corner there. She brought that home when she was 30 that one and she’s got She’s got four left now three girls in a terrorist gotcha oh yeah that’s quite the quite the quite the piece here. I think we should be worth something. I I wandered into a gallery in 1990. I was in New York City at a conference and I wandered into a gallery and it was Tony Bennett. And he had painted. I just brought this thing home. And he had painted something. He was a painter, Tony Bennett besides being a singer and he had this picture. He called it Venezuela to $20,000 That was for sale. And it looked like there was a mountain that look that it was drawing it was supposed to be a mat looked exactly like so what do you been up to?

 

03:51

Work? How’s

 

Bill Clearfield  03:54

how’s the mycotoxin business?

 

03:58

Well, it’s very interesting. Several medical schools are now using my macro lab. For studies for mast cell activation, autism and various other disorders. And we get you know, SERMs from them like we got 83 SERMs at one time. From them to analyze and so, yes, it’s, it’s people are becoming more aware of the benefit of doing it by blood rather than urine. Urine vacantly is for what what’s in food. Where the way for for blood as an antibody test, you know and mycotoxins are 0.1 micron the same as as a virus. So how do you test for virus use an antibody test? You know, epstein barr, hepatitis, whatever. And so this is an this test has been around for 25 years. There’s been many studies done on it, etc. So it’s it’s been an interesting journey.

 

Bill Clearfield  05:26

Okay, well, we’re always happy to hear from you.

 

05:29

All Thank you. Are you gonna be an A B E M or a m mg?

 

Bill Clearfield  05:34

I’ll be at am mg. I’m speaking on Friday morning. So I was supposed to go right what Usually I’m the last speaker for them. Okay, but they moved me up because I was supposed to go to Oh, man, you know, the AOS thing is the same weekend in Boston. So I was I supposed to go from Denver to Boston, but then they fired us from that so So, so I’m not going good. Good. I’m not going I don’t see any need to go there and just be aggravated. Especially when when they stand up and they you know they proclaim and how progressive they are and how you know how transparent they are and how they they back osteopathic physicians and all that baloney that’s on their website. So

 

06:19

unfortunately, yeah, just

 

Bill Clearfield  06:21

just, you know, they you know, they couldn’t be they really did. I guess they didn’t like I sent one out. I had a picture of it was a guy he from New York City and he ran I think for president or governor in New York on the on the rent is too damn high. Platform. I don’t know if you remember that was a few years ago. So I kind of took my own words, and said that the hypocrisy was too damn high. So they didn’t like that.

 

06:52

So I guess what I do is I do a share screen and put on

 

Bill Clearfield  06:57

and then you share your screen and then you’re ready to go. And I’m usually not great at introducing everybody so I’ll just you know introduce you and say, you can you know, talk about yourself or not, however you feel comfortable. Where do you live? I’m in Reno, Nevada. Where are you? It looks like it’s still laid out.

 

07:23

Tampa, Florida. Okay. I’m right now in Guadalajara. Mexico. Several people have asked me to fly down and see them as patients. These people are either very well anyway, they they’re they have problems etc. And since I’m multilingual lingual, no problems talking to man. We do that. We see patients from I see patients from all over Mexico here. I see patients from Europe as well because Mexico is much cheaper than United States. You know, here good restaurant meal may cost you 20 bucks. A hotel may cost you 75 bucks.

 

Bill Clearfield  08:18

And it’s a lot better than it’s a lot better than we’re doing. Going to go into the salad works is $30 That’s right. So, how is Tampa did you get the hurricane doubt?

 

08:36

We got a lot of wind and we got a lot of rain for one day and then it was gone. The rest got hit pretty good.

 

Bill Clearfield  08:51

Yeah, I only see pictures of Fort Myers and it didn’t look nice at all. Yeah. So So I unfortunately I know all about that. I’m from originally from Wilkes Barre, Pennsylvania and we get flooded out every every other year. So yeah, the river was over the roof of my house twice.

 

09:17

Oh my gosh. Yeah.

 

Bill Clearfield  09:21

The five years before I moved out here, we had to evacuate three times. So that’s that’s enough. That’s enough. It is.

 

09:31

Yeah, that’s a lot. Yeah.

 

Bill Clearfield  09:34

We found the place that it never rains. So.

 

09:40

Gotcha. So, okay, we

 

Bill Clearfield  09:44

got a couple of minutes and usually we have stragglers show up until 515 530. So usually we like to start on time is it okay if we record it? Because Absolutely. And one of the things that we were accused of is not having a website which you know, we’ve had for four years since since I’ve been around we put all our all our videos we’ve been doing this for over two years now the the these Tuesday night things and so we have just about every one, one there we have quite a quite a nice selection of material on there.

 

10:21

On Sunday I’m giving a there are several a number of people who have or giving a course. The first one this Sunday Turo and in San Francisco I don’t know if you they’re an osteopath osteopathic school. Right? I know, as you know, and so it’s gonna be interesting. They’re all wanting asking about mast cell activation syndrome. So shall I put on the share screen

 

Bill Clearfield  11:03

but on the share screen and so we’re getting some some old friends we haven’t seen in a while. Area lane. Good to see you back if you’re on yet. Okay, how are you been? A long time?

 

11:21

Yeah.

 

Bill Clearfield  11:23

Very Elaine over here. I haven’t seen you in a while. Dr. Del is with us. She was on last night on DACA losses group and we’re going to try to try and twist her arm to talk for a group also. So thank you for coming. So when you’re ready, sir, it is five o’clock. You know what to do? Right share the screen. And so everybody, thank you for coming. We’re going to record it. Our speaker tonight is Dr. Andrew Campbell, who is a great friend to us. And he really needs no introduction. He’s is quite prolific as a speaker as an author. And he is one of our superstars. And I can’t thank him enough for supporting us especially in our time of need. And we will rise again by the way so oh yeah, can’t gamble.

 

12:24

Integrative Medicine is a is the up and coming thing. So they’re gonna do great organization and I congratulate you for leading all this and having having to deal with all the the issues with it.

 

Bill Clearfield  12:42

We’ll call him issues. So, okay, I’ll let folks in as they show up and those who are not familiar with you just give yourself a brief introduction, and we’ll take off.

 

12:57

Just let me know when you want me to start. Start. Good evening, folks. It’s nice to be here. It’s wonderful to be here. Back again. wonderful group of folks and my name is Andrew Campbell. I’m an MD. And I’ve published over 100 studies about a third of them on molds and mycotoxins also have chapters in medical textbooks on this and that’s why I put on there based on medical and scientific evidence not on at the you know, things like anecdotes and things like that are found all over the internet, unfortunately. And I’m going to start by showing you this this is what I some of what I do. A lot of physicians and medical journals, and et cetera and I write a lot of articles tools, was said this is the important thing right here. The important part is how do you solve medical problems caused by toxins? Well, one, it this is not a big mystery detect the cause. Second is removed the cause third is repair the damage and then you have a happy and healthy patient. So I teach at various universities. Before before the pandemic it was I was actually there. This is Oxford University and the UK and Harvard Medical School. Now of course, everything is virtual. Most of everything is virtual. So remember these three things. This is what your car mechanic does, but it works in medicine, for toxicology as well. As well. Detect remove repair. Let’s talk about the brain see only Oregon completely surrounded protected by bone.

 

15:06

I don’t know if I’m strong enough to make it down here and

 

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as a result, it’s it uses it weighs only about three pounds two pounds 2% of our body weight, but it uses 20 to 30% of the calories we consume. And because through the carotid arteries, and the vertebral arteries, it gets the most oxygenated blood emerging from the heart than any other organ. It’s very important part of us and it uses 20% of the oxygen absorbed by the lungs. The hourly blood flow through the brain is 13 gallons every hour, as as we live 13 gallons of blood goes through the brain 20% Of all the blood pumped from the heart. There’s all over 400 miles of blood vessels most of them count capillary because each neuron brain cell needs to receive oxygen and nutrients. So these 100 billion neurons, how do we reach them by having 400 miles of capillaries through the brain? Every person’s thoughts every person’s emotions memories, actions reactions are in the brain. The mycotoxins first affects the body. It affects it and the brain. And that’s the overwhelming medical and scientific evidence, brain and nervous tissues. So mycotoxins destroyed brain cells, by dis regulating the mitochondria and brain cells and cause cell death. cell apoptosis, apoptosis and they destroy mycotoxins destroy the blood brain barrier so that everything goes into the brain that shouldn’t go into the brain. What are the neurological effects what affects the brain? Well, we get autism spectrum disorder, decreased short and long term memory in children and adults. We get optic neuritis from the D myelination and we get chronic inflammatory demyelinating poly neuropathy. That’s also called CIDP. And it’s very, very similar to ms multiple sclerosis. We get loss of balance facial pain, ALS, Alzheimer’s, multiple sclerosis by the way on multiple sclerosis studies from Rutgers University and 12 years ago showed that this show this is about 60% of MS is caused by mycotoxins And recent studies what I mean by recent is lost in this year 2022 showed that patients who have ALS have in every autopsy of every part of the brain, fungi, molds, same with Alzheimer. So we also get movement disorders, Parkinson’s disease, from molds being affecting and mycotoxins affecting the brain. So what do you do? Do you give them medication prescription medication for these disorders? No. You get rid of the mycotoxins and the patient gets comes back to normal again. And I’ll be showing you some actual slides. Two important points about mycotoxins one is a mold that produces mycotoxins for doesn’t produce one micro toxin and produces a series rather than one it’s not a one to one this mold makes this mycotoxin now, this mold makes these several other mycotoxins and then second point is if a note a mold that’s known to produce mycotoxins is present in a home or building indoor space, then the mycotoxins it produces, are present as well. Let’s take a look at size hair is about 100 microns thick mold spores, three to four microns. So what what does that mean that three to four microns as they go and as you you’re in this indoor air environment and you breathe these in, they go to the deepest part of your sinuses, and also the deepest parts of the lung, where they easily cross through the alveoli into the blood and get distributed.

 

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Exposure to mycotoxins is by inhalation you breathe in dermal exposure, so it’s absorbed through the skin. The ingestion part is minimal and there’s many studies that show that the microbiome actually detoxifies or lessens the toxicity of mycotoxins. What are some of the myths diagnoses for mycotoxins fibromyalgia? Chronic Fatigue Syndrome? Chronic Lyme is another big one. People get treated for sometimes years, and sometimes intravenously for Lyme, but it’s the bacteria so how many times do you have to treat it with so many different antibiotics? You should look differently and take a look at does this patient also have mycotoxins because the test cross react with antibodies to mycotoxins depression that’s resistant to antidepressants and anxiety disorders. I’ve spoken to a number of of psychiatrists who’ve seen this who after trying and trying and trying to do a mycotoxin test and it lights up and they start treating the patient for mycotoxins and guess what happens? The Depression goes away. Autoimmune diseases very common. For example, Ms. We talked about and also other diseases, autoimmune thyroiditis, etc, all these autoimmune diseases and there’s more than 100 can be caused by my thoughts is a set that is another example and there’s a study that came out two three months ago that shows this by Dr. terminan. And a group and her group. This autonomia as well. Several studies have shown that and finally what we talked about already, it causes the myelination. So in the brain, oligodendrocytes make make myelin in the peripheral nervous system. It’s made by Schwann cells and both are affected. So you get peripheral the myelination and you get central the myelination in the brain. Here’s the Journal of auto laryngology and neuro neuro technologies research and it shows that chronic fatigue syndrome Fibromyalgia hyper hypersensitive, such as allergies, food intolerance, sensitivities, to chemicals at concentrations that everybody else tolerates sensitivities to EMF, and even a daylight may associate with mycotoxins. This is the test. This is the journal that I just told you about by Dr to Minam and her group some of the symptoms experienced by patients with advanced mold related diseases illnesses, such as fatigue, memory, cognitive impairment and somnolence. I are like those reported by silicone breast implant cases. So silicone breast implant cases are very similar. Because silicone implants may contain molds from the manufacturing process. And I have about 2530 studies showing that that had been published

 

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the neurotoxicity of trike, a group of mycotoxins known as strikeout scenes, this is T two and deoxy Neverland all it’s also known more as d o n. Current status and future perspective. This was published two years ago next month, and shows that they disrupt the central nervous network, including the neuro endocrine, and growth hormone hormone signaling. Notably, the contamination of mold and mycotoxins has been identified in the brains of mycotoxin of Alzheimer. disease patients as I mentioned a moment ago. Moreover, Neogen can significantly affect the normal activities of the nervous system and endocrine system and then cause damage to brain cells. Therefore, T two toxin changes the cellular structure and function of the brain. So it really hits the brain heart. And here’s another quote, chronic fatigue syndrome. CFS might Fibromyalgia which is CF from fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia, various types of hypersensitivity. All these from that study by Dr. Truman Show this and then the neurological manifestations of patients with pots and myogenic encephalomyelitis chronic regional pain syndrome. These are all conditions that are associated with advanced mold related disorders. So here is another studying the effects of mycotoxins unlike on neuropsychiatric symptoms and immune processes. This was published four years ago, patients reported moderate to severe levels of cognitive, physical and emotional symptoms, mostly depression. So here’s a healthy brain scan. This is from Dr. Daniel Amon and this is what it looks like. Now here’s a toxic brain scan. Can you see the difference? That’s why MRIs and other studies like that only show structure. They don’t show how the brain is actually affected. I use brain SPECT scans a lot in my practice. And this is a study published eight years ago about sleep. Sleep is greatly altered by inflammatory diseases affecting the depth pattern timing and duration of sleep. And our reliable indicator for how bad is the disease and the common origin are inflammatory cytokines that are released by mycotoxins especially tumor necrosis factor and interleukin one.

 

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So continuing on, this was a study done with a population of 119 patients 79 females 40 males 20 were controls and we did nerve conduction velocities for motor nerves and sensory nerves. And there were three groups that showed mixed sensorimotor polyneuropathy and 55 patients motor neuropathy and 17 and sensory and 27. So as you can see, these really affect the nurse. The other part was there were high levels of anti nuclear antibodies and antibodies to central nervous system, myelin and peripheral nervous system Island and the conclusion was that molds and their mycotoxins in water damaged buildings lead to multiple health problems arising from the brain and the immune system. In addition to poner side effects and allergies and the exposure to these also an initiates an inflammatory process. Well, actually several inflammatory processes. So here we go, Ms, as I mentioned before, and it’s one of the most frequent and severe demyelinating neurological diseases and affects mainly young folks. Eventually, they become disabled. And then this 210 study from Rutgers University stated, we propose here that fungal toxins are the underlying cause. of multiple sclerosis, and therefore, they can lead to an effective cure. And I can tell you in my practice, I’ve had young people come in their 20s and 30s with Ms. And guess what you treat the mycotoxins and the MS goes away and they’re fine. They’re they lead normal lives. One of the most common mycotoxins to cause MS is glio toxin. Now glio toxin we’re going back to that this is published three years ago. Ms resolution by antifungal therapy. In other words, you treat them for the molds and mycotoxins, compromises a strong evidence that support fungi as a major contribution to this disease. So folks, if you have patients from neurological problems, the answer may be from due to molds and mycotoxins and we’ll go a little further on on this later on. Okay, be careful if patients have glutathione have glio toxin antibodies do not give them glio toxin because it promotes cytotoxicity and makes glio toxin even more toxic to cells. And unfortunately on the internet, everybody recommends that people are affected by fungi and mycotoxins Take, take glutathione Yes, but not if they’re affected by glio toxin because they’ll get worse if you give them the Messiah. Here’s another study from last summer. I mean summers 2021. T two toxin is able to cross the blood brain barrier and accumulate in the brain and increases toxicity in the presence of glutathione This is evidence that you should not use glutathione sound and patients affected by glio toxin. It will make they won’t get well. Here’s a different study. This is from 2015 Seven years ago different brain regions including the external frontal cortex, cerebral cerebellar hemisphere, all the parts and in all analysis of brain sections from these patients 10 patients who had Alzheimer’s disease all we’re infected by fungi, and this was observed in the blood vessels as well that are in the brain. So that’s an important finding. Here’s an Alzheimer patient of mine. 76 year old Caucasian male three neurologists confirm that he has Alzheimer after a number of tests, MRIs, etc.

 

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He doesn’t know in his home which is his bedroom doesn’t know where his clothes are. He always wakes up in the morning. Where are my shoes? Where my socks are my pants where my shirts etc. He can’t leave his house because he’d get lost. He was unable to recognize friends or relatives and forgets things constantly. Well, that’s pretty typical of say the Alzheimer patient, however, has MRI showed only mild cortical atrophy. So on examination is MMSE was abnormal on a neurological examination he had decreased deep tendon reflexes in all his four extremities. He had poor balance, his gait was unsteady when I shine, or use the light to look at his pupils that were very slow to react. But otherwise the physical was fine. I did a Alzheimer blood screen that is offered by a Cyrax labs and it was normal, completely normal. Here’s his studies for antibodies 12 different antibodies to molds and mycotoxins just by looking at the colors red and dark orange etc. You see that he lights up for all of them. All of them on the IgG what is the difference? IgG and IGE IgG G is basically a toxic reaction in the body. Ige is more of a mast cell activator. It activates mast cells. So this is the before and eight months later is MMSE was almost normal as deep tendon reflexes normal is balance was much better. His pupillary reflex was normal. His gait was normal. He’s driving. He has no more memory issues. He is fine. Here’s the after. So here’s the before and you can see eight months later the after that is evidence. Now let’s took take a look at Parkinson’s which is the second after Alzheimer’s the second most common problem that we have in the brain exposure to okra toxin may induce early onset Parkinson’s, as well as other neurodegenerative disorders. So let’s look at another paper published seven years ago evidence for fungal infection in CSF, the cerebral spinal fluid and brain tissues from patients with ALS. And I’m sorry this is not Parkinson’s is ALS. Our observations provide compelling evidence of fungal infection in the ALS patients analyzed. There’s actually three studies now that have come out in the last two years that show that five to 10% of ALS is caused by genetic problems. The other 90% is caused by mold mycotoxins. And here’s another study. The effects of glutamate expression is important evidence for the role of mycotoxins in ALS amyotrophic lateral sclerosis antibodies and neurotoxins in blood, cerebral spinal fluid and CNS tissue, central nervous tissue and samples from a large cohort of ALS patients. So this is a lot of patients. If, if a fungal Association could be confirmed, a treatment for this fatal and debilitating disease could be quite straightforward. Use antifungals what is the most accurate test you can use for mycotoxins and which test is used by university medical centers to do research, etc. And what tests did the for mycotoxins do the author, authors of this? These studies use? Which test there’s two? There’s blood and then there’s urine.

 

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The most precise and accurate tests for mycotoxins both IG G, which is a toxic reaction and IGE mast cell activation measurements for 12 Different mycotoxins by my micro lab. This is what they’re they use and are currently using. There’s three ongoing studies, two on mast cell activation syndrome, and one on autism from University Medical Centers using the antibody test from only like Colau. Here’s effects of mycotoxins on neuro psychiatric symptoms and immune process. 87 urinary mycotoxins no singular mycotoxins or group of mycotoxins was associated with autism spectrum disorder diagnosis in children however, IgG and IGE levels are a more reliable index of long term exposure. This is from Tufts University School of Medicine in Boston. So you do the test, what is the treatment? The treatment and this is the first rule of toxicology and probably this is the most difficult get the patient away from the toxin or the toxin away from the patient. Meaning if it’s in their home, they either have to have it fixed. remediated. Or they have to move. And that for some people is very difficult because sometimes because of remediation, and testing for molds in the home or workplace, any indoor testing is not standardized in the United States or in any other country. You’re gonna get you do. You call five different companies and you get five different bids and five different answers as to what to do. So this is a conundrum for everybody. A person’s health though cannot be restored. If they continue to be exposed to molds and mycotoxins. No treatment will work under those circumstances. I encourage you to type in my microlab.com click at the top of the page video. And there is our webinars I’ve given and there’s one on treatment that goes through the whole process of treatment and how to do it where to where to get everything. Not only just give them this, this this, but dosages how much where do you order it from, et cetera, et cetera.

 

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So the basic treatment paradigm and I use the word paradigm instead of some other word, because it changes if the patient has brain issues, you treat brain things, they have gut issues, you treat gut issues. It’s it’s not a one size fits all protocol that you give a 22 year old female that weighs 110 pounds, the same treatment as you give to a 55 year old male with hypertension that weighs 230 pounds. Now, first use an anti fungal spore Knox 100 milligrams B ID and this has been shown to be a very safe drug. I get people asking, Oh, what about the liver, etc. I’ve seen almost 15,000 patients with molds and mycotoxins in my career, dating back to 1990. And I have had two patients out of almost more than 14,000 Almost 15,001 had total insomnia. She was a 43 year old female she developed over the summer. The second one developed gastritis. None of them and I checked liver function tests constantly and every so often, none of them in all these years have had problems with their liver function test. The other part I will tell you is in these patients that I’ve seen some of them had at one time or another hepatitis, or were heavy drinkers at some time in their life, et cetera, et cetera. Scoring paradox didn’t affect them. So the other part you support the brain with phosphor Title sarine 500 milligrams, one daily to twice a day and there are double blind placebo controlled randomized studies that showed this helps remind on ate the nurse melatonin three milligrams at bedtime. Yes, melatonin helps sleep. But studies from the University of Texas San Antonio Ranch have sub shown that any brain affected by toxins this helps detoxify the brain. The third one is a good B complex, thorough B complex high dose B complex Studies at the University of Manchester and the United Kingdom showed this that it was very helpful and 275 patients and then fourth is nitrous oxide. One twice a day I get mine from a company known as n 101. And it works like their lozenges. And I did a study on five patients with Alzheimer a few years back and they all had abnormalities etc. Their typical Alzheimer’s disease patients. I had them have an MRI with contrast so I could see the brain. Everything in the brain as far as blood vasculature. The next day they started on nitric oxide twice a day. In a month, I had them repeat the MRI with contrast and had the neuroradiologist compare the first with the last. It was amazing. I haven’t published that. And so honestly speaking is it’s an anecdotal study because it’s not published, but that’s what I saw because I didn’t think that five patients is enough. There needs to be a greater study done on these patients with greater numbers. So what about this phosphor title sarine The effectiveness has been studied, as I said before, in double blind placebo controlled randomized studies, it enriches myelin it influences the metabolism of neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine, norepinephrine, serotonin, and dopamine. And remember, in the microbiome, you derive from serotonin you derive melatonin. So people who have good serotonin levels are happy people, they’re not depressed, and they sleep well. If their serotonin is affected, they’re depressed and they don’t sleep well. It stimulates enhanced performance on tasks that learning ability

 

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tests and short term memory. They improve those and compared with placebo, which was ineffective, the faster title sarine supplementation produced a significant improvement in short term recall immediate memory, vocabulary skills, skills, ability to recall words, attention and vigilance. Why not use this to help these patients? Melatonin. Recent studies confirm the benefits of melatonin in reducing the selling or damage damage generated as a result from toxic agents. And these projective effects are apparent when melatonin is given as a soul therapy or with other potentially protective agents. So melatonin is ability to protect neurons from molecular damage due to a wide variety of substances including mycotoxins has been shown and demonstrated. Be complex in a water soluble vitamins. The collective effects are particularly prevalent to numerous aspects of brain function, energy production, DNA RNA synthesis and repair genomic and non genomic methylation. The synthesis of numerous neuro chemicals and signaling molecules. Furthermore, in human research, significant proportions of populations in developed countries like the United States suffer from a deficiency or insufficiency of one or more of the B complex. And that in the absence of an optimal diet, administration of an entire vitamin group rather than small subsets, like just give them this B six or B 12, or this at doses greatly in excess excess of the current governmental regulations throw those out would be a rational approach for preserving brain health. Nitric oxide that I mentioned in Dallas brain neuronal networks with the ability to make continuous adjustments to function in response to moment to moment changes in physiological input. Because this is important because the whole time you’re getting input from your eyes from from your ears, from taste, smells, etc. So nitric oxide signaling in the brain provide a core hub for integrating the sensory and homeostatic related cues. Control of key bodily functions, and help improve several neuro, endocrine, and behavioral abnormalities, all published in peer reviewed medical journals. So now let’s look at body function support. Magnesium. I use Mag SRT why? I published a study on magnesium 10 years ago, eight years ago or so. And one of the issues of magnesium supplementation is that it peaks in the blood in two hours, and then two hours later

 

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you lose it through Europe. So you’d have to take it every four hours. Nobody’s going to do that no patient is going to remember to do that Mag SRT and it’s it’s by a company called Jigsaw Health. It gives you it stays for eight hours so I use it twice a day and my patients morning and it’s great. They tell me within two to three months, they’re feeling much better. Vitamin d3 vitamin d3 is actually is a steroid. If you really look at it, and you give them you don’t need to give them more than 5000 international units. They protect the brain and I’ll get into that. And then omega two plus max. That’s a formulation developed by Dr. Steve Sinatra. An old friend of mine, I have to tell you that and he passed away a few months ago, but this has Omega in it from squid, not from fish so you don’t have to worry about heavy metals like mercury, second gives Coenzyme Q 10 which is great for circulation in the heart. And then it has curcumin as well which is a great anti inflammatory and resveratrol from the skin of red grapes which is also great anti inflammatory. Fourth, you give a probiotic, but not the typical probiotic bit, you know, acidophilus and the Bifidobacterium. You’ve got to give them a spore forming. You got to give them a spore forming bacilli and I’ll get into that and of course, the the great vitamin C one gram three times a day for reactive oxygen species which is very high in patients who are suffering from molds and mycotoxins. So let’s go through through these magnesium is the 11th most common element in the human body where did we used to get it from? Well, our predecessors all the way back to Adam would get water from wells well wells in the earth have a bunch of minerals in it. So now we drink water out of a bottle, plastic bottle so we don’t get the minerals anymore. This is mineral this magnesium is a necessary ingredient from 343 150 enzyme systems. So it’s very important in the role of the body’s metabolic processes. And 80% of the population is deficient in this nutrient. And additionally, magnesium binding sites have been detected on 3751 human proteins. They’re essential for building, repairing and maintaining the cells in our bodies. It’s a cofactor for that adenosine triphosphate. As we all remember, from when we were students this is plays a role in energy metabolism and the processes by which the body breaks down proteins carbohydrates. And fats and converts them into energy. ATP is the energy currency of the cell. The primary product made by your cells, energy factories, the mitochondria. Magnesium is a required cofactor for vitamin C, activating one of the most important antioxidants for the body and support of the immune system. Magnesium also cofactor and other nutrients including zinc, potassium, vitamin B complex calcium and vitamin D. Without magnesium it would be difficult to absorb these and have the body use them.

 

52:04

Vitamin D very helpful in cognitive impairment vascular dementia, Lewy body dementia and other conditions that developed because your brain cells are not functioning well or because of brain cell apoptosis cell death and low levels of vitamin D are associated with increased cognitive impairment, diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, cancer and respiratory issues, respiratory diseases, and I can tell you in about 80% of my patients, I always checked vitamin D levels 80% or low. You want to have between the number of between 50 to add a lot of them come in with 2030 omega q plus max from squid DHEA and EPA gives you l carnitine. Curcumin Coenzyme Q 10. And as n resveratrol, as I discussed previously, probiotics so Dr. Simon cutting at Reading University, did a study for the Food Safety Authority of the United Kingdom that’s there. The UK is FDA and they show that the less than 10% of the usual commercial strains of lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium in probiotics are able to get into the colon colon. Actually, he showed that less than 10% make it through the stomach and it’s because the the stomach acid kills them. And then University of California Davis in a publication looked at 16 Probiotics produced from from local stores. They went and bought these and to check if the strains claimed on the label match those that were found in the capsules. Only one out of 16 actually matched the label and some products that was built to pill a variation in the same bottle. There are no studies that show that 200 billion CF use are more effective than 10 billion and that 15 strains are better than five etc. Why because they all die in the stomach anyway. Not all 90 over 90% Vitamin C. We don’t make it and we don’t store vitamin C, so we must get it from an external source. Most almost all fruits and vegetables contain some quantity of vitamin C. It helps in depression, especially in children reduces uric acid levels. For those patients who have hyperuricemia gout and reduces the risk for brain cancer gliomas and it lowers lipids. Wonderful. I take it every day. So let’s look. hydrocortisone could be awesome silicone in the net, present computer. That’s an algorithm that I took connoisseur versus fluconazole. This was a study published 18 years ago. So prophylactic Cazale prevents candidiasis. There’s two types of molds single cell which are yeasts and multicellular, which is Stacie botters Penicillium, Aspergillus etc. fluconazole only works for yeasts like Candida has no activity towards multicellular molds. And Archer covers all provided better protection against invasive mold infections. That’s why I recommend entrepreneurs all the brand name is Fernox How do I see my patients how do I try to get all this put together? I use a patient questionnaire as a tool, the firt it’s 14 pages long. And that is what I have a new patient fill out. The first two pages are symptoms commonly found in patients suffering from molds and mycotoxins. It’s all their symptoms. And then on the left side column, they have to score it from zero to 10. Zero being none and 10 being really bad. On the right hand column, they have to say how long they’ve had this symptom. In the end, patients fill it out when I first see them then when they return, only give them the first two pages of symptoms and it’s a quick glance to see and help you who are treating the patient, where have they improved, and where do they need further improvement.

 

57:06

So here is the questionnaire. As you can see, these are all the symptoms on the first page, the severity zero to 10. And when did you first notice the symptom? So it’s a great screening tool, and I’ll be happy to send it to you just shoot me an email. Important if you test positive for mycotoxins retest, after six months of treatment, not before and not after six months of treatment. You saw how I did that on the patient with Alzheimer. Binders they’re very popular on the internet. However, animal studies in pigs rabbits, sheep, broiler chickens, ducks turkeys, rats and mice have shown that binds Pacific binders may remove mycotoxins under certain precise laboratory conditions in these animals. Remember, these are all laboratory tests. So they they measure it out very carefully. However, there’s no medical or scientific published studies in humans. What does that mean? We don’t know which one to use, for which micro mycotoxin and what is the dose and how long you should take it for and what are the potential side effects but it’s all over the internet, but it’s all anecdotal. It’s all so and so had this happen and so forth. That’s acceptable as medical and scientific evidence. This is a common I get about five to 10 emails a day from patients and this is one of them. My functional doctor uses Schumaker protocol which most of them use. It didn’t work for me. And that’s why I found your article and contacted you after two and a half years of her doctor trying to heal her gut. She’s not satisfied with her prior treatment, and not addressing the mycotoxin Candida SIBO effects. And the doctor prior to this one that she saw for two years, so now she’s sick four and a half years, was very knowledgeable in mold illness, only treated her with co star main and the VIP the modified Schumaker protocol as well as some supplements. It just doesn’t help them. It takes me six months to eight months depending on the severity to get a patient back to normal. More of the same I’ve been dealing with mold toxicity and trying to get to the bottom of everything because I’m not getting any better. I was blown away by your thoughts on binders because they’re pushed by pretty much everyone. I’ve been taking them and haven’t seen much of a difference. Now, here’s these tests that lack any medical evidence. urine testing for mycotoxins from an indoor environment they test for the mycotoxins in the foods you you eat the outsell tests and urine for moles, the HLA Dr genetic test, the visual contrast testing that you do on a computer and it tells you about if you have mold or not. None of this has been proven in any way shape or form Msh C three A and C four I can tell you as an immunologist, and toxicologist that these are C three and C four are just inflammatory markers for any disorder or any kind of problem. They’re not specific. So I’ve been told by many doctors, that urine test always has okra toxin. So what is the source of mycotoxins detected near Why is the detection Mike dogs in the urine, not an indication of new antigen formation between mycotoxins and human tissue antigens, which cause autoimmunity that play a role in the pathophysiology of autoimmune or immune disorders. This is because the mycotoxins detected in urine originate from food and this is why the detection of mycotoxins in urine is not an indication of body burden mycotoxins and should not be used as a biomarker of exposure to mycotoxins and molds and water damaged buildings. This, by the way, was stated by doctor who has done

 

1:01:48

so, serum blood testing for antibodies is highly precise. It tells you if you have mycotoxins from a moldy indoor environment. The urine test changes because it measures what is being excreted from foods not from the indoor environment. It can change day to day, week to week, etc, etc. The oats testing organic acid tests measure levels of organic compounds in the urine. It’s used I remember when I had to do a rotation through neonatology for three months. And my residents used to check for rare inborn genetic defects of metabolism, most often in newborns, doesn’t say anything about molds and there’s no evidence that it says do this test and you get something that tells you if you have molds or not. There’s no evidence of that. If you want some more information about this and I know I’ve barrage you with a number of things. If you want a copy of the patient questionnaire, or the latest study, this is with I did this study with Dr. Weinstock, who is the professor of medicine at Washington University in St. Louis, Missouri. We published this in March of this year. Molds mycotoxins the brain, the gut and misconceptions. Also, I mentioned to you Lyme in the path early on. And for this, I would recommend that you read this study and I’d be happy to send you this one and the previous one, Lyme disease and mycotoxins how to differentiate between the two. This was published in 29. In the summer of 2019. I received notice in January of 2020, that this was one of the 2010 I’m sorry, one of the 10 most read studies, of all studies published in 2019. It’s not because I’m a great author or anything Heck no, it’s because people, doctors, clinicians, people who see patients have trouble differentiating between the two because many other symptoms are similar. And lastly, for any references I didn’t want to put on I usually put on six to 10 pages of references line by line. So there’s quite a lot I just saw thought I if you want a reference for a particular thing, just email me and I’ll send you the reference or references and help you and then if you want just email me and I’ll help you with your patience as well. So I’m concluding this and I want to answer certain questions that came up in the chat. Do I have a different treatment for the mast cells? Or do you just treat the moles? No, they’re different. Treatments. But the treatment is slight ly different. Not hugely difference. Intravenous ozone again, this is a evidence based lecture. There’s no evidence that intravenous ozone is helpful or not. The third question is such as bacillus coagulants. Yes. Bacillus coagulans is a spore forming bacilli, Bacillus. And so yes, it is very helpful in the gut. And let me tell you, I’ve seen many patients with who come because of irritable bowel syndrome SIBO and all these things, they get treatment for those No, trade the God with the spore forming bacilli and those things will go away. So is LDN helpful against molds? At the risk of repeating myself, there’s no studies that show that LDN is helpful or not. And I have to base everything on medical evidence. Is there any difference between extended release melatonin No. It’s just plain melatonin. The other question is, how long is Fornax used? And this is a very good question. What I do with my patients and remember, I’ve got many patients 30 years experience. I asked them a very simple question. For whatever, four words how do you feel, not how you’re doing? How do you feel when they come to me and say I feel pretty good. I stopped the SPAR knocks. Usually it’s about a six months treatment.

 

1:06:50

So but it’s a very good question. How do you check the house mold inspectors, this is what I mentioned before. It’s not regulated. So you call four or five different mold inspectors, they give you each one a different story and it costs a lot of money. Unfortunately. Why is IgG use can it be just old exposure? Well, let me explain a little bit about microbiology and difference between that and toxicology. I as a kid had smart chickenpox. I now have IgG antibodies to chickenpox because that happened many many many years ago when I was a kid. Those there’s four in microbiology there’s for living organisms with cell walls etc bacteria viruses, parasites and pathogenic fungi. So when you have an antibody those that means sometime in the past. Now let’s take a different tack and go to toxicology. Toxins are not alive. They don’t have cell walls. Mercury is a toxin it doesn’t have a sell off all toxins or groups of molecules. They’re not alive. So the body reacts with an IgG antibody when it’s inside you an example that somebody another doctor gave me he says that’s a good example. He says because people use shampoo on their hair and that shampoo has you know 10 To 20 different chemicals in it but they don’t they feel fine and they don’t show up in the blood. IgG antibodies to a toxin means at that time your body is fighting that toxin. It is a marker for what we call body burden. And it’s a test. The antibody test for and for mycotoxin is a quantitative test how much of each one you have at least 12 mycotoxins How did you detox the guy with the old guy with my with Alzheimer? Again, if you would, please go to my microlab.com and click on the up at the top video. And the first row will show you treatment. Click on that and you can watch that. Can mycotoxins be involved in developmental of uncompensated Vestibular neuritis? Yes. How do you treat it? Okay, so this is a study I published on on not only Vestibular neuritis, but also optic neuritis, several studies that showed how you treat the mycotoxins and this goes away. So how do you treat again I would recommend because here the time is too short for me to go over all of treatment. You know, it would take me at least an hour and a half to go through that. And we just don’t have that kind of time. But I’d be happy to share that with you. Email me go to the My micollab.com and click on and watch the treatment webinar, etc. And I’ll be happy to hold your hand with any patient. I’m here to teach. I’m an old guy already. I’m happy to teach anyone who wants to know how to help their patients. I don’t see any other questions. And the question here is the last one six months as Fernox can kill the microbiome No. Not at all. Six months a year, two years, three years four years of treatment with antibiotics for Lyme. They’ll completely wipe out your microbiome. Okay.

 

1:10:55

Another question just popped up about patients won’t get better because if they’re still in the moldy environment, they’re living in it or they’re working on it. How do we get familiar with making sure they are no longer exposed? Well, one thing is the issue of do by asking them is there any mold in your home? And remember folks, today we have not one bedroom in a house we have several bathrooms sorry we have we don’t have one bathroom. We have several bathrooms we have a dishwasher in the house. I have a refrigerator that spits out ice and cold water. And I there’s there’s a washer and dryer and all these things places or potential leaks, where that water will eventually grow mold and from the mold mycotoxins the way I explain it to patients is mold is the gun. mycotoxins are the bullet so how do we how do you make sure one is to get find a good company that tests for molds. And I have several published studies on what how to how these things happen, how do they occur etcetera. And so you if the patient and I’ve had patients who come from Louisiana from the bios of Louisiana, who live around mold and were born around mold, and of course for them, it takes them a little bit longer to get well but there’s two companies that I recommend. So that if you would please write me, email me. I’ll give you the name of these companies that I use. I bought a house a few years ago, moved and bought a house and I had them come out and test the house as part of the inspection process before purchasing. Believe it or not, they missed the mold. I had a friend of mine who was the mold inspector who I would share it with. He told the inspector Did you find a mold? No. He says Come here. Look at the refrigerator opens the half door to the refrigerator on second second. He turns on his phone with the light on it and shows him a growth next oh my gosh, I didn’t see that. Ladies and gentlemen, it’s now been an hour. I’ll be happy to entertain any more questions by email and share with you what I’ve learned over the last 30 years that you’re having me I appreciate it very much.

 

1:13:47

Are you staying back? Because we want to have some discussion here. Is that okay? Dr. William, okay. Okay. Yeah, just to spice the conversation here and really, I do that in my room. I think Dr. William will be okay as well. Your presentation is excellent is great. I like it. Every time you present with your approach and methodology and you know, the way you lay down the home protocols and pathophysiology and you bring all the chemistry as well. But the question is that is fungus infection is a code or a risk or trigger? And that’s the question we need to make sure we have the clear answer. So I’m going to ask you that and then we will see if we want to analyze it and and brainstorm it because there’s many different aspects of it. And I just want to analyze that and discuss it with you. So whatever

 

1:14:45

is just the trigger is basically the same thing. What causes something or what create or triggers a disorder or disease is the same question. What triggers autoimmune disorders or what causes autoimmune disorders? Is the same question about molds or mycotoxins. The issue of a chlorine dioxide solution methylene blue medical grade hydrogen peroxide for blood enrichment and cleaning etc. I’ve seen a couple of studies but there’s no real good studies using a number of patients other than just a kind of a a pilot study. So you so I would hesitate to say yes, use this and it’ll be wonderful and you’ll feel great. Because there’s not enough medical evidence from

 

1:15:37

Okay, so what do you say is the trigger is a code, you know, we have also something’s called genetic. You know, if we have a nursing home, and it’s infested with a with fungus, infection, and not all the patients, they’re all the people that got Parkinson disease, but few of them can we say, the reason those patients has Parkinson disease, it’s because of the fungus infection. And if that’s the case, well, there’s lots of their peers there and same age and maybe same risk factors, and they don’t have Parkinson disease. So what I’m trying to say is that fungus infection, yes, it trigger their inflammation and maybe the progression, but you still have to have some background of genetics that leads to that person to be having Parkinson disease. Do you agree on that, or you want to say it’s absolute Coase, even without ethics

 

1:16:38

studies, and I can actually I did a study on this and published it seven years ago and the journal called autoimmune diseases. It was a review studies show that genetics plays a small role, but not a big role in mycotoxin related disorders. One thing is is mold which is a which is alive, it’s a a living organism, and another thing is a toxin, such as mycotoxins. So we, as I’ve shown you in the in this in this particular program is I’ve given you the actual studies that show what mycotoxins can do. I’ve showed you the one about ALS, Alzheimer’s disease, multiple sclerosis, and I can show you many, many more just limited by time here.

 

1:17:40

So let me go back to Parkinson’s disease in order to have a manifestation manifest of patient with Parkinson disease. Clinically, they have to have almost more than 70% Maybe 75% of their dopaminergic neurons completely that well you can we can give some percentage like say 50% debt and 25% stunned, okay. And what we do and what we see and what we observe is that those patients that come clinic has Parkinson disease, and then we give them IV glutathione. We give them possibly anti fungus we give them all this antioxidants and things that we’re doing which is creative things and possibly we say this is mycotoxins, and you see the patient is improved. It does not mean that you reverse a 50% death of those different energic neurons. It means those stand inflamed dopaminergic neurons, maybe they they return their function and that you can see the improvement but it does not mean that we are reversing the pathophysiology of of the Parkinson disease because there is underlying genetic problems that is causing the Parkinson disease that’s causing those and ability of those cells to detoxify themselves and buffered redox and and that leads to induces apoptosis. So there so we cannot just say find this is the code absolute code of parkinson disease. There is a genetic there and the fungus is a trigger to a part of inflammation and use the inflammation that may stand those in those cells or possibly causing them to die and and speed the progress of Parkinson’s disease. Can we agree on those things?

 

1:19:24

We can agree that the medical literature provides the evidence that’s medical and scientific. And I would have to see medical and scientific evidence that is based on only genetics and nothing else, or only molds and mycotoxins and nothing else. Everybody has an immune system everybody’s immune system is unique and different. And the studies that I review, I’m the editor in chief for three medical journals. I sit on the editorial board of another five. So I get studies constantly every day, and I look through them all especially as it directs to these neuro neurological diseases. And I have the evidence shows what I discussed.

 

1:20:15

Phenomenal. You mentioned the autism as if you’re the same doctor can’t believe a patient who told me that their autistic child started speaking after a doctor con Phil prescribed ether con azul for five months I’m in Melbourne. I don’t know if you’re the same dark gamble. I can’t imagine there’s too many doing that.

 

1:20:34

I’m actually again, look at the studies coming out of Tufts University School of Medicine. Look at the studies coming out of University of Helsinki look at the studies coming out of Washington University in St. Louis. Those studies and they these none of these are brand new studies. These studies you’ve been around. I have treated for the last 30 years autistic children. And my first study published study on autism was back in the 90s. So it’s it’s it doesn’t come from something relatively new for me. I’m also publishing a study with a group on autism using mycotoxin antibodies as a marker as a biomarker and it it stated neurodevelopment neurodevelopmental disorders and disorders in children, behavioral disorders in children, ASD Aspergers, all these complex things that we have seen that have increased over the last several years, and they go back and doctors are saying in these universities that a lot of this is due to climate change because look at the floods in Florida. Look at what happened in Pakistan last month. Look at what happened in Australia, all these countries are have issues with flooding, etc. into public buildings, homes, schools, etc. And then you get more growth. Schools are especially susceptible because they’re they’re built to the the lowest bidder. So they’re notorious and University of Connecticut has published a whole big chunk of articles on how teachers get sick from molds and mycotoxins. And how that is an occupational hazard.

 

1:22:52

I gave a lecture on a webinar on autism in April, it’s also available on the my micollab.com website under video if you click on videos, and it’s only on autism. For instance, mothers, pregnant mothers who live in a mold moldy environment they find mycotoxins in the amniotic fluid in those mothers that have choked their their the fetus has genetic and mouth abnormalities and malformation because many of these talks and mycotoxins are can affect that why because it affects DNA. So as you affect DNA, well, you know, you affect all of that. I don’t again another webinar on Mothers and children the first 1000 days because then it goes into If mothers are around it, it gets secreted in mother’s milk. mycotoxins get secreted in mother’s milk.

 

1:24:07

Can I ask a question? Does the degree of improvement after treatment rely on the duration of this disease? In other words says that a matter of diminishing returns if they have prolonged disease

 

1:24:27

what I can tell you is in my experience, some patients Okay, every patient being different you’ll get people who are very healthy, choose their food carefully exercise all the necessary things and then you have the people who get sick who are also couch potatoes don’t exercise don’t watch what they eat, etcetera. So obviously all those things affect whether the how quickly or how slowly a patient is going to get well. You know, I’ve had to talk to all patients from all walks of life, as you can imagine, and I treat patients internationally i This week it was Latvia, London and a couple other places. And again, they will respond differently according to their nutritional status and he comorbid factors are they diabetic? Do they have cardiovascular disorders, or anything else? What what medications are they’re taking prescription drug wise? All those things interplay with us. I’ve given you a general idea.

 

1:25:44

Okay, so what would you say in order of importance would then duration of the disease be? Then? Perhaps general health and then age? How would you say those are what would be the relative importance of those three things?

 

1:26:14

Oh, they’re all important. Every patient is different.

 

1:26:20

Oh really? You just then have to do what you do. Encourage them to be more healthy or have had a healthier lifestyle and just depend on talking with the patient to see how they’re improving. Is that what you’re saying?

 

1:26:40

Absolutely. Not only that, but you you have to look at all the different flavors and varieties of people. You know, did they when they were growing up to the they do things that were naughty? Such as use certain street drugs or not drink too much at one time in their life or not. All those things play a role and in all that we do in every Lastly, the examination of the patient. You’ve got to examine these people carefully. It’s not the quick. I mean, I went for my annual checkup. My examination took under three minutes. That to me is not an examination my new patients I spend up to two hours because I want to look at all their records. What are the tests that they’ve had in the past? What was that? Were they a C section baby or their natural birth baby because that affects the microbiome. For example, in natural childbirth, the water breaks for the woman and that coats the birth canal with mother’s bacteria. So the first bacteria in the baby’s mouth is Mother’s bacteria that helped prepare the gut for them. Their microbiome was born by cesarean. The bacteria in the mouth are from instruments or personnel in the operating room. And that gives you that’s why children with from cesarean sections are prone to milk intolerance and later on when they’re three to seven years old, more commonly have allergies, all relating back to the microbiome that was formed at birth. Actually, mother’s milk. First day of mother’s milk is very special milk. It produces certain anti God immunoglobulins to protect the child, but it also has some polysaccharides that the gut of the baby cannot digest it goes on to the gut and helps form the microbiome by giving those bacteria down there in the gut food that they can use to grow on. Okay, thank you. Sure.

 

1:29:16

Dr. Campbell. I just wanted to ask a question. Thank you so much for your presentation. But I had heard actually on a gardening podcast that they were talking about using fungi against other fungi. And this made me curious about if you’ve had any experience with or read about somebody using that specific thing, like Okay, so we know you probably have this kind of mold or exposure to it. Now you have mycotoxins. I know you couldn’t get rid of necessarily the mycotoxins but they were even saying there were more different molds that would actually clean up. The mycotoxins.

 

1:29:59

Really?

 

1:30:01

There that’s called magic mushroom. No. Mountain mushrooms. I can’t remember it’s in North Carolina. And they have they they were saying that they are dreaming of a time when you can actually take an oral swab. Like that. Send it to them. And they can tell you what fungus they can give you to take care of it

 

1:30:22

when I hear things like that. But my first question is that’s very nice. Can you send me some studies that show this is real?

 

1:30:32

Okay, so not not real time. Yet. Right?

 

1:30:36

Right. So for example, you we all go to conferences, and all these conferences, have people have tables with all kinds of probiotics. Right? Good. I just gave you the information from studies on probiotics, but they’ll tell you our probiotic. Oh, it’s resistant. The capsule resists the acid in the stomach. I say that’s wonderful. I’m happy to hear that that your company does that. Can you show me like the old show me the beef? Yes,

 

1:31:12

thank you, sir.

 

1:31:13

You’re welcome.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:31:21

Excellent is as always, Dr. Campbell. Are there any

 

1:31:26

I think the probiotic that she’s talking about the probiotics are healthy bacteria, and also there is healthy fungus or that those healthy fungus will kill the pathological founded fungus. Same like the probiotics as healthy bacteria that kills the bad bacteria. Is that what you mean?

 

1:31:46

No, I mean that I read Dr. Simon cuttings studies at Reading University. And they were very thorough because they were paid for by the food and safety administration of the United Kingdom. And they showed which all the different strains none of them. I mean, none of them survive less than 10% survive the stomach acidity. So what they do in the Dr. Simon cutting call this dead bacteria therapy or their studies with Dr. Cutting, and others have shown what spore forming bacilli do in the gut for the microbiome. And if you read recent studies I’m talking about within the last four years about the gut with the microbiome, they actually help detox mycotoxins by oxidation. And these studies are in you know, I’ll be happy to send you the citations for them. And actually, they’re some of the citations are in the publication that I put at the end of my lecture, the molds and mycotoxins the gut and the brain, the gut, and misconceptions. So it’s all there. It’s all medical and scientific, published evidence.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:33:20

Are there any symptoms that are more sort of pathogenic magmatic of like mold and mycotoxins than others? No, because, you know, one of the criticisms is that we’ll let you know these symptoms could be you know, 1000. Right.

 

1:33:37

And that’s part of the problem. Of in in medical circles is row gene. You could have just about anything, they all cause these kinds of symptoms. And that’s true, but this is why I developed this questionnaire 30 years ago. To help me get through all that. You know, I can’t tell you how many fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome patients I’ve, I’ve treated who are well known pranic this chronic and I’ve been to I’ve spoken at many, many, many conferences over last 30 years, as you can imagine, and a lot of them are about how to correct or how to cure or how to modify chronic diseases. Part of that is what we learn to do as doctors identify which we think, you know, couldn’t be but there is no specific this will this tells you it’s such an such program, any disease

 

Bill Clearfield  1:34:46

in your experience are there any symptoms that you know, when you when you when they when you see them or checked off when that questionnaire or you ask your patients and say, aha, this is where I’m going, or not really, or you know, I’m a hormone guy. So you know, my thinking there’s always along those lines, you’re at your, you know, the immune you know, you know, Bold Guy, your thinking is always along those guys. Do you attract a certain patient that that it’s it’s more than likely than not that you know, what your expertise in is, you know, is what we’re going to find or or we’re not

 

1:35:25

know because 99.9 I know I don’t want to say 100% of patients that come see me have already seen anywhere from five to 20 or 30. Doctors before they come to me, and they bring banker’s boxes of medical records. They’ve and they’ve had the same test run several times MRIs runs his CAT scan, all these things, colonoscopy, his upper endoscopy, all these things many, many times and then they finally ended up with me

 

Bill Clearfield  1:35:58

I get the same thing. You know. And I think a lot of people here in our group, I think it probably if you took a consensus you would probably well tell you this give you the same answer. I think we’re we’re kind of all in that same boat.

 

1:36:11

But we aren’t good dumpsters. Or other doctors.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:36:17

Dumpsters, right, exactly. But for example, so I have a checklist to for my you know, my hormone patients and I’m in the thyroid section and I’m not gonna reveal what it is but there’s there’s there’s two symptoms that seem to stand out that are subtle, that are not the usual thyroid symptoms, that when I when I when I when they when when when I see them checked off or I asked them about it. I you know, I know I can almost predict, again can’t say 100% That, you know this is going to be an auto immune thyroid issue. Even if it’s not been previously detected or is there anything along those lines in your in your experience? No.

 

1:37:00

Okay. I can also tell you that there’s a lot of hormonal studies looking at how mycotoxins affect hormones, testosterone progesterone estrogen, and in particular, the thyroid.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:37:15

right up my alley. We will be looking at we’ll be we’ll be looking at those those up shortly.

 

1:37:24

We’ll I’ll show them to you and California.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:37:28

You’re coming to Denver.

 

1:37:30

I’m sorry, not California, Denver. Yes. I’ll be there on Saturday.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:37:34

Yes. So like like so like I said, so what we’re talking about is Dr. Campbell and I are going to be at the AMM G on December now. That’s October. It’s coming. up right October 28 to the 30th. Right. And I’ll be doing testosterone complications which they made me they made me water it down. What I really my real title is nearly everything we learned about testosterone in medical school. was wrong, but they said that wasn’t scientific enough. But that’s my real topic. And so, so I look forward to it. Dr. Campbell, as always, and I won’t be running out to omit in Boston because as I told you before they as you will know they throw us out. So no need to aggravate ourselves over that anyway. So we’ll be hanging around. So anybody else have any any other questions?

 

1:38:30

We did. Dr. Campbell, I just wanted to tell you I looked on their website because I knew something was like catching my brain. They say they do micro remediation too. So even if your patient like found mold, and they didn’t want to move, they actually will test it against some of the other mushrooms and molds that they have and see what will kill it and then they can actually apply it and get rid of it. So anyway, just throwing that out there even if it’s not for treatment for them if their house or something like that I thought was so interesting. Interesting. Okay,

 

Bill Clearfield  1:39:08

talk amongst yourselves. I’m getting somebody’s email here So okay, so Dr. Campbell again. Thank you so much. Anybody else have any comments, questions? complaints.

 

1:39:28

I just want to add something about, you know, your antifungal drugs in addition it is killing those fungus infection. Most of the antifungal drugs are also anti inflammatory drug and then have the th 17 interleukin six, which is the that’s the good thing about those antifungal drugs and that’s why we use it for cancer. It doesn’t have the interleukin six which is part of the methodology of cancer as well. There so the question is, is that so when you’re treating those patients, killing those fungus with the antifungal drug, but also you are reducing the inflammation so part of your treatment is killing the fungus, which I think it’s part of the pathology of triggering those progression of those autoimmune disease or degenerative diseases, but also, you have very good anti inflammatory antioxidants. Which is the magnesium the vitamin C, and then you are replenishing the damaging myelin with phosphor to die or the phospholipids and then you also adding vitamin B 12, which helps also in regeneration of the, of the neurons and the myelination part. So you know it’s more of a feeling part that you do anti inflammatory antioxidant. So that’s antifungal drug that you’re doing is just not just killing the fungus but it also has anti inflammatory part in India when COVID-19 head and the COVID virus is like fungus. It’s different from any other viruses. Most of the fires as you’ll see the th one response but COVID in certain way it puts things into T A T and 70 interleukin six so they have high interleukin six and that drains the immune system and put them at risk of the black fungus infection and the way that they’re effectively treating it using methylene blue as an antifungal drug, killing the fungus and also methylene blue and having interleukin six it works the same like the drug antifungal that you’re using the Big Pharma one, but I favor methylene blue because it does not interfere with the mitochondria. Actually it didn’t. It does not it’s very compatible with the biology versus any big pharma products including antifungal drugs. But in India they did very good and managing back fungus with with methylene blue and I know that you’re looking for publication research and all that stuff and to justify adding it to your protocol. But we already have some some clinics here and and many others are doing it IV and all that was great success and possibly it can be a replacement for an antifungal in addition to methylene blue has promoted mitochondria it has anti inflammatories, antioxidants, and in addition to everything you add me from magnesium to vitamin C to B 12. To alpha lipoic acid to all that those those very powerful antioxidant and anti inflammatory but I think in addition to that, I think Dr. William Bill will say well, we need to also restore the the hormones and I think those patients they would have no cortisone they would have low six hormones and restoring that would definitely help to speed the process. of healing. So this will we can combine the efforts of Dr. William and Bo Dr. Campbell, where they can work with a team and they start learning from each other and make possibly combining their protocols but I think it’s very critical that we need to restore the hormones. What do you think Dr. Campbell and Dr. Williams?

 

1:43:10

I think that antifungal in particular, hydrocortisone has been shown to be effective against certain kinds of cancers. And we also know that fungi not fungi, mycotoxins are known carcinogens. That’s been known for 30 years, probably or even longer, actually 40 years. And I think that if clinics are having wonderful success using this or that, that’s great. And it’s anecdotal. It’s just like if I say to you my uncle Ralph, went both for molds and mycotoxins. And then he used olive oil on his scalp and all his hair grew back. That’s very nice for Uncle Ralph. But that doesn’t prove to me that that actually is works for everybody. So this is why we need good studies. To show us what what works at what dose, how often in work patients, does it work and young, old patients with comorbidities or not etc, etc.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:44:22

Ditto So, one other maybe it’s a little bit off topic, but so we see a lot of a lot of patients with chronic sinusitis. They’ve been on a lot of antibiotics and I I have taken to using I add your console and a steroid or make it into a into a nose drop. And then I don’t really again, I don’t really have anything to hang my hat on except that, you know, they’ve had years of chronic sinus issues and even have a positive CAT scan. And a you know, we’ve been on 678 rounds of antibiotics and they don’t get they don’t get any better. And we do see seem to get get, you know, in some of the patients, is there is there a is there a swab that can be done? Is there a you know,

 

1:45:17

here’s what you just gave out a study that was done by Dr. ponic, our Chairman of the ear, nose and throat surgery department, the Mayo Clinic. He took 210 patients to come to the ER they all had chronic sinusitis had been through the usual rounds. Of decongestant antibiotics. And then a month or two later, they’re back with the same problem, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. He took these people with chronic sinusitis cleaned out their sinuses sent whatever he found in that gunk, and sent it to the lab and asked them what was what did you find 96% had mold. So he actually asked that the term chronic sinusitis be changed to chronic fungal sinusitis, and the treatment used and that’s been now that was a 1999 study. So you’re right on the dollar. And he actually showed that Chronos all orally and Amphotericin B nasally. And a spring helps those patients since that study. It’s other medical centers. have shown and, and agree with that. So you’re doing the right thing. Dr. Bill?

 

Bill Clearfield  1:46:35

Yeah, that came from some a forum lecture and many, like many, many moons ago, so I can’t remember where it came from. But that’s one that will be sort of stuck in my mind. And so, so for the rest of us out there, so chronic sign patients with chronic sinusitis and lots of antibiotics. You know, it’s to me it’s a fungal infection until proven otherwise. So,

 

1:46:59

well, actually what happens is it was describing what happens is is that sinuses are are essentially coated with mucus cells. And when you put some thing inflammatory, like mold spores on them, they make more mucus, and then they cover the mold with this mucus. And then what comes on top of the mucus, bacteria. So yeah, the bacteria will help it a little bit then it’ll come right back. Eventually. The that’s that was shown and also, what has been shown is that what happens with those molds and they produce mycotoxins, they go through the cribriform plate and into the brain.

 

1:47:49

I’ve heard that too.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:47:50

Okay, so that was my two cents on when Bolton said. So, anybody else have any other Oh, there’s one question here about something about saccharomyces boulardii is good for mold against mold.

 

1:48:05

So used and it’s gonna be chilled by entrepreneurs. Oh, it’s a yeast. Okay, it’s a single cell monk.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:48:17

Okay. And I like the way you don’t equivocate? The answer is. Okay, great. Okay, anybody else? We’re gonna let Dr. Campbell go. It’s right. You’re in Mexico.

 

1:48:31

I’m right now treating patients until they have tomorrow.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:48:36

Okay. All right. So we’ll let you we’ll let you go and enjoy the rest of your life or your nice your night here and your life too. We’ll see you in a couple of weeks at a MMG. If you have any fluence at a forum, they don’t seem to like me anymore for some reason. I don’t know. They don’t they don’t want me anymore. So good work for you. But yeah, okay. And we were supposed to have Dr. Pam Smith next week, but she had a conflict so we’re going to have her I think in December. We’re gonna have Dr. Good no next week, and I forgot he’s new to us and I forgot to write down what he was talking about. So anybody who knows who he is, let me know. So I’ll get in touch with him and I’ll get it out this weekend. You know what the topic is so. And anybody else? Any questions? going once going twice. Dr. Campbell, we can’t thank you enough for your time and your expertise. It’s always great hearing from you. And thank you for supporting us, as you know, we’ve been we’ve had a bit of a challenge in the last this last summer. But we’re regrouping we have everything in place now for two, two and as you’ve been getting my my the our fliers for the last few weeks we using the moniker American Osteopathic Society of integrative medicine. We’re an official at the IRS approved subspecialty we’re registered in the state of Nevada as a nonprofit organization, and we’re already ready to go. And so we’re going to apply to the AOA as a subspecialty and their attitude towards us up till now hasn’t been too positive but we’ll keep we’ll soldier on. And with that, anybody else have any comments, questions? complaints? Dr. Burgess, you have anything first?

 

1:50:31

Everything’s beautiful. Everything’s beautiful. And if anybody has $2 million, we’re going to purchase a healing property in Hawaii. So all this crazy people like Dr. Campbell in yourself can come join us. It’s time for a healing center. And anyway, I don’t have the 2 million and I don’t have the time to sell me stuff if I had any. So if any of you have 2 million, we need to put a healing center together. In Hawaii, there’s a place and it’s doubtful This opportunity will come up again. So I’ve know of anybody I’ll send you the MLS bill and anybody who wants it, they can have it. They can keep it give it to their family or their friends or we can all work together and make this thing happen in place. By the way. It has a huge waterfalls and a stream going through it. So we could do horticulture and we could do the primitive stuff too. And I’m pretty primitive. But there’s a hospital near but very nearby at Hilo. So if we wanted to do the straightforward research and medical stuff, we would be welcome to do that as well. That’s all Thank you. Hey, Dr. Gambling Dr. Campbell. You’re a cool guy. Thanks for sharing with us.

 

1:51:42

Thank you.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:51:43

Yeah, we don’t we don’t hear that praise that often from Dr. Burgess. So

 

1:51:49

I’m gonna go to Hawaii for swimming today. Next to the beach.

 

1:51:53

No way. It’s all a secret, by the way. Yeah, but you know, you guys know. Hey, thanks for keeping Dr. Campbell. We gotta let him rest.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:52:02

Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

 

1:52:04

Thank you for all your work. Dr.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:52:06

Bill. Okay. Oh, here’s a question here about John from from from Red. Stoker Pay Pal or van Venmo for the $2 million.

 

1:52:15

It’s up to them. I don’t have a dog in the race. I just hope everybody does well, but I see this as a thing we

 

Bill Clearfield  1:52:22

can do one went over your head. Probably did.

 

1:52:25

I don’t know about this. I don’t know anything. About money.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:52:29

Preferred Venmo PayPal will take take take a percentage and most won’t

 

1:52:33

stop Venmo you guys.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:52:37

Okay. All right, everybody. Good night, Johnny. John, are you going over it?

 

1:52:45

Yes. And I’ve been filtrated to several groups. So we will be there in force.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:52:49

Okay. All right. So, all right. Let me know. We’ll subsidize you a little bit. So All right, thanks. As you know, I’ve elected not to go because it would probably just aggravate me.

 

1:53:01

We got to cover we got to cover we got your six.

 

Bill Clearfield  1:53:04

All right. Good. Okay. All right, everybody. Good night. And I think we’re looking at Joe’s stash of mushrooms here. I think that’s what this is. So okay. We will see you next week. Same time, same station. Goodnight. Thank you all.