Tue, Oct 25, 2022 4:52PM • 1:37:09
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SPEAKERS
Bill Clearfield
Bill Clearfield 00:06
mine Hey, either I am looking forward to this because not only am I a stock their own guy could be a customer
00:35
you can get involved. This is a grassroots community trial. It’s all over the plan.
Bill Clearfield 00:40
Right? Yeah, I downloaded the app and I tried finding it on there but I couldn’t I don’t know it was a little little.
00:48
We’ll try to help you with that. I think we’re going to be getting some people from all over the globe if their time zones align. I know one of the guys he’s in Spain. It’s 2am. Over there. We’ll see if he shows up.
Bill Clearfield 00:59
You’ve got somebody from the Republic of Congo here. Yes. So Fernando Boyles from the Republic of Congo, please. Well, is that is that Congo is that what that is?
01:10
Yeah. We got a republic congregation.
01:14
He’s in Boyles and he’s got a one by his name was wondering why had a one year old congregation okay.
Bill Clearfield 01:26
I think it’s Congo. So anyway, welcome. Sir. Thank you for coming, being with us and introduce yourself.
01:36
I’m Mr. Fernando voice Vanga Philippines are the facility. CONGREGATION is congregation of GW re printing.
Bill Clearfield 01:51
Well, thank you for thank you for joining us. We are here every Tuesday at this time. I don’t know what time it is where you are. We more than happy to send you information. You know, we’re here every Tuesday night and I’ll put in the chat later when we get everybody in. How to find our old websites or old webinars that we have. We’ve been doing this for two years. And we do seem to get folks from from a wide variety of walks of life and places so thank you for coming welcome. And we usually start around right around five o’clock our time so we got about six minutes.
02:40
So a friend Fred. Hey, how you doing? So how’s everybody
Bill Clearfield 02:53
how’s everybody doing this? Week?
02:56
Busy. busy, very busy.
Bill Clearfield 03:01
Let’s good. We don’t want you to be sitting around doing nothing. Get yourself in trouble.
03:07
I keep myself busy.
Bill Clearfield 03:13
So how long have you been doing this? This project?
03:16
I’ve been involved with it. For at least a couple months. I think that’s how long the trial is. Really it only started a couple of months ago.
Bill Clearfield 03:25
Okay, so I knew nothing about it at all. So when I started they did some reading on it.
03:35
To help you join the community, he should have been able to join the link up to join the Viber platform but
Bill Clearfield 03:41
right I joined Viber and it took me there and then I don’t know what happened to him. You know I’m old I get confused with these things. You know all this computer stuff. Just is kind of beyond me. So
03:55
yeah, when I started with the q&a, I think there were only 200 members now we’re up to 1017 members and it keeps growing. So I had
Bill Clearfield 04:05
a I have a doesn’t want eight so far. At least so but I’ll wait. I’ll wait to where we’re all all gathered. Jeepers. How do we get up new? We have quite a few names that were just a few new names here which is nice. And so those of you that are new to us, we’re the American Osteopathic Society of integrative medicine. We’re here every Tuesday night at the same time and same station. We’ve been running these webinars for over two years and about two years now. We’re here every Tuesday and we have an integrative medicine topic. Split in the chat. We can find our old ones we record them more well. It was er d.org/webinars and get go there and you can find all our old ones so
05:24
take care Mr. Gonzales joins us from Spain.
05:29
You got to find your copy. No, I want to know why.
05:39
Right. So
Bill Clearfield 05:41
did you get that? So we find out what happened with the coffee so so this week just to let you guys let everybody know that I will be in Denver. Friday morning I’ll be speaking on nearly everything we learned about testosterone in in medical school was wrong. But that was a good topic, the age management Medical Group and if you’re if you’re headed that way, say hello let me know that you’re around. If you don’t know anything about them, it’s H mid.org. Ag E, mid mid.org. They’re a really good group. I’ve been speaking with it for them for about five or six years now. Normally I’m the last speaker even made a little bit of joke out of it at one time. I told him I was the was the Johnny Castle Memorial Lecture. Only a couple of people actually got it so you know Johnny Castle was it was Patrick Swayze his role in Dirty Dancing. And remember his his white hot imperative was to do the final dance of the of the he always did the last dance of the season and Dirty Dancing. So I always do the last lecture for AMG. So I dedicated my lecture made it. A few people got it. So stood up still know about that movie, Dirty Dancing. It’s pretty old, I guess. I guess it’s old by now. So Patrick Swayze was the you know, the leading Guide to 2009 was
07:28
finally at a straightaway die of cancer, right? Yes. Pancreatic cancer. Yeah, pancreatic cancer. So,
Bill Clearfield 07:39
okay, so a lot of these names are new. I know Mr. Gonzales or Dr. Gonzalez, I know you mentioned him that he might join us, which is a welcome sir. And there’s a lot of new names here that I don’t recognize are these folks from the
07:53
from the from the Viber group, possibly.
Bill Clearfield 08:00
So, so, let yourself you know, introduce yourselves if you’re interested in in in our programs, put your email in the chat down here and I’ll make sure that you get on our list. Like I said, We’re here every Tuesday night at this time, five o’clock. Pacific eight o’clock Eastern. I’m not sure what time it is. In the Philippines. I do you know that it is 8am in Mongolia. That’s where my son lives so I know that we’re going to hear from Dr. Hartman here shortly.
08:41
So
Bill Clearfield 08:43
usually, we have folks come in for up to 530 even. So we’ll let them in. And
08:53
so it’s right about five
Bill Clearfield 08:56
o’clock. Steve, if you want to. Step Stephen. Oh, yeah. If you throw it about, share my screen here. There you go. And you can share your screen. Introduce yourself, you know, you know, I read all sorts of things about you that I didn’t know like, tennis and all that good stuff. So and take it away. We’ll make sure
09:29
to record this. It’ll get banned from YouTube if you upload to YouTube though.
Bill Clearfield 09:34
We like the we already got banned for WIC we had somehow Dr. Mikolas class got on their banned on that. I didn’t even put it there. I don’t know how it got there. But it got there somehow. But we put it on our own. Don’t worry about it. We’ll we can handle it. I’ll let you in on the latest from the AOA when, when we’re done here we got this week.
09:59
I can relate to that. I just I was in YouTube jail for the past week for something I said about ivermectin. So I’m very
Bill Clearfield 10:06
well that’s why I didn’t put that’s why I didn’t put it in the in the email. I just I just I left the ivermectin part out. Yeah.
10:15
Yeah, I’m very careful with that too. Anyway, guys. My name is Stefan Harmon. I’m a TA and I practice medicine here in Florida, with iron direct primary care my company. Today I’m being presented with the prostate community trial is a global community trial. That’s repurposing old medicines ivermectin and lactoferrin in particular for the treatment of prostatic megali and cancer. This lecture is important for several reasons, not only just because we are talking about treating cancer, but we were also describing how to deliver a trial without big pharmaceutical or corporate funding. So this is a grassroots trial. That’s really the community members and clinicians across the globe, thinking and brainstorming together. And trying to treat patients in alternative fashion. So we’re going to discuss some of the background of these medicines, some theoretical background, and then we’re gonna jump into some cases the case of my own patient and then cases that we’ve seen in the community. And then Mr. Gonzalez is going to talk a little bit at the end. He is trying to recruit further clinicians for this trial because it is only possible through clinicians and patients. So there’s a lot of talk out there about repurposing ivermectin for cancer. And you can look at all these trials and the mechanistic behavior. It’s quite extensive. We could be here all night talking about all these things. So that’s why a trial like this is important, a human trial. And obviously ivermectin is an old drug that has, it’s very affordable and so there’s not a lot of pharmaceutical interests to look at this for cancer, but the literature is out there. And I’m going to link this in the slides afterwards and people can go through this and look at all the mechanistic properties of, of ivermectin. We’re also be talking about lactoferrin specifically, and I’m going to talk a little bit more about lactoferrin since I’m very familiar with lactoferrin. It has many immuno genic properties for cancer, for iron chelation and for maintaining a proper microbial balance. So let’s talk a little bit about why lactoferrin for cancer Well, what is it first of all, it’s it’s highly abundant in mother’s milk, right? All mammals. So this is horse, bovine human milk. lactoferrin is preserved in this in its unpasteurized form. It’s essential layer of natural immunity. It’s abundant in the lower and upper lung tissues. It displays a broad range of preventative therapeutic and biological activities, including antifungal, antibacterial, antiviral, anti cancer, antioxidant, immunomodulatory, goes on and on. And then in addition, it has a role in regulating iron metabolism. Now we’re going to talk about that in particular, and its relation to cancer and how this metabolism of iron is been theorized as a mechanism for cancer here. And lactoferrin in particular, plays a role in controlling this. Here’s the 3d structure of lactoferrin. And this delicate 3d model is important for my next subject, in that lactoferrin has been removed from the populations diet. Maybe this was by good intentions. We all know about Louis Pasteur, the pasteurization process. I have a lecture on YouTube about this, this pasteurization process and what it does to raw milk and why potentially this lactose intolerance thing is not a real thing. The reason for that is because when you pasteurized milk, it degrades all the enzymes associated with milk. So milk is alive and it’s unpasteurized for men and human milk and bovine forms. It’s alive. There’s lactoferrin as we showed, very delicate 3d model molecule is destroyed along with a hunt for only 50 other essential enzymes. Okay, the pasteurization, as you know, is about seven degrees Celsius, it’s not that hot. The higher you heat it, the more of these enzymes are degraded. You can see about you know, most of them are degrade at around 75 degrees Fahrenheit, which is the pasteurization product. Point. So there’s no lactoferrin in anyone’s diet pretty much on any country on the planet, specifically in the US because it’s not supposed to be for human consumption. lactulose also is absent in milk, right? And raw milk is only available when you pasteurize milk so lactose as we know it’s an osmotic diuretic. It’s used for treating children with constipation. So back to lactoferrin. Again, an enzyme that steals iron away from pathogens and carries iron into the bloodstream and only raw milk has lactoferrin. We can see here a little bit more of the mechanistic reasons for how lactoferrin treats opportunity affect infections and maintains proper microbial balance is basically it’s almost intelligent how lactoferrin preserves milk, right otherwise we would not have evolved as human species. We would have died off long ago if all milk was toxic with pollutants and bacteria in its lactoferrin is basically a natural pasteurization mechanism.
15:44
There are also mechanisms for which we could use lactoferrin as a repurposed medicine for the treatment of COVID-19. It is an iron key later. So lactoferrin effect on cancer like if it is able to promote or inhibit cell proliferation and migration, depending on whether it acts upon normal or cancerous cells respectively. Again, I’m talking about how like different is almost intelligent or it evolved to help humans suppose theoretically, or it seems mechanistically at least, it decreases inflammation and regulates the immune system. It has antiviral activities, specifically against the SARS cov, two virus and all sorts of many viruses, right? You go to the doctor and it says, oh, there’s nothing you can do for a viral infection. We know that’s not true. You can use a lot of nutraceuticals vitamin C glutathione. lactoferrin is another one. We can think about using potentially just reintroducing raw milk back into the diet could potentially protect against many viral illnesses. So let’s get in to some of the anecdotes in this prostate community trial. So here’s the example of the form that we use in this trial. These are the questions all patients get when they come into the trials. This is my patient P. S. He came in age 67. We talked about how much smoking history. We talked about his PSA results. We talked specifically about the liver enzymes because you know there’s a theory that ivermectin may cause some liver injury or so forth liver inflammation, so we pay attention to this. We haven’t really seen liver injury and the trail from ivermectin as we’ll see. We talked about the prostate sides. If they’ve had MRI, they tell us the prostate size, their Gleason score, if that’s applicable, not to my patient in particular, we then talk about the medicines or supplements they’re taking my patient had hypertension, so he was taking lodestar 10, hydrochloric thiazides, he was taking some nutraceuticals square Seaton and vitamin C. So probiotics, this patient of mine had an interest prior in ivermectin, he had used it for the treatment or prevention of COVID. And he found it very helpful for that. Interesting that this guy is a scientist. He’s a PhD. He’s a very smart guy. He was very happy about enrolling in this trial. He’s kept very detailed track of his PSA over the years since 2014. And you see he was creeping up over the years. He noticed that here around this time point he had used ivermectin for the purpose of prophylaxis against COVID. And then when we look back at this, when I talked him about this trial, he noticed that, hey, my PSA was lower, so maybe there’s something to this trial. These are his MRIs that he had before in the in the periods before I met this patient with other providers. He had BPH as confirmed by MRI. The next step with a urologist was to do a prostate biopsy. So we enrolled in this trial to see if we could make a dent in this PSA. So the protocol is lactoferrin. We start the patient out with 500 milligrams of lactoferrin. So he was taking two capsules a day, and ivermectin, the standard dosing we use for COVID 0.4 milligrams per kilogram of body weight. We use in particular for this patient and AIMEX pharmacy compounded lozenge. So we use 12 and 15 milligram lozenge to equal 27 milligrams daily. And I told the patient we check his PSA at the end of 40 days. So this is what the patient found at the end of 40 days. So
19:23
who happened to know each other? What was that? Here’s my girl.
19:29
Okay. Anyway, so the patient noticed that his nighttime urination is decreased and that’s something we’ll see in the other anecdotes is this as a frequent report by the patients their nighttime urination decrease as you will know with prostate or Magalie the urinary frequency is a huge lifestyle limiting factor for patients and it limits their sleep. So this is the first thing that patients notice. One of the negatives that patients notice was a foggy vision that he had, and I with my experience, I know ivermectin can do this, if you do too high a dose and this is possibly we’ve talked about this now viral community with other colleagues, potentially this is the body’s telling us hey, we took maybe too much we don’t need that much ivermectin again, we don’t think of side effects as the body being stupid. We think the side effects as the body telling us, maybe we did too much and we can back off we don’t need to do the summer so we backed off a little bit on the dosage. I also instructed the patient to proceed to get a source of raw milk and start incorporating that into his diet. And he was doing that as well and learning a little bit about the nuances of the various milks out there. The kefir and raw milk. So the very interesting for him. Here are the new PSA lab so we noticed a very slight decrease in PSA over the short course that we use this over 40 days. So the PSA dropped a little bit not statistically significant or anything not huge. What more interesting, we noticed his blood pressure started going down, which was unintended and unforeseen. So his blood pressure was going down to 106 over 276. So I said look, we can get off the Losartan and hydrochloric Tyneside. The mechanism for why this happened are unclear, but his hypertension seemed to be resolving with the lactoferrin and ivermectin. Now, I have seen this once before and a patient we’re using ivermectin had cured hypertension. So, take that for what you will. Here’s some other labs because I know some of my colleagues here like to see the labs on patients nothing too remarkable on the CVC. Otherwise, we should note, there is some theory theory that lactoferrin because it steals iron away from pathogenic bacteria and brings them into the bloodstream could contribute to perhaps a higher hemoglobin. However, we did not see this in this patient. At least. We’ll see later some anecdotes where hemoglobin is maintained even in severe cancers. So maybe there is again some intelligent design behind lactoferrin and how it maintains proper iron ratio in the bloodstream so you can produce hemoglobin. Here’s some other advanced labs as part of my routine panel for patients that come in to iron DPC. So we do a hormone panels we do a PSA pretty standard. We saw his PSA here. His Dihydrotestosterone is a little bit high 108. Again, we have no reference for this because before coming to me they had seen regular clinicians who don’t pull typically extensive labs like these, so really had no hormonal reference. Very surprising that this 67 year old man had the testosterone of 787 Fantastic, however, low free testosterone 7.3 So maybe converting too much to dihydrotestosterone so I told this patient you know, let’s do some natural supplementation in Red Reishi saw palmetto, maybe some raw sprouted organic pumpkin seeds to decrease this conversion to DHD because there’s some theory that DHT can promote presta to Magdaleno and Dr. Morgentaler we all know Dr. Martin Heller, a big urologist who promotes the use of testosterone in older men. He has demonstrated that testosterone therapy doesn’t cause breast automagically. But there’s potentially some patients who are genetically susceptible to converting to more DHT and maybe this patient needs a bit of supplements support. Some other labs we drew Dhg, and nothing too remarkable here. He’s vitamin very good vitamin D levels, a bit of an elevated D dimer level. This is just part of my routine screening for patients and the spike protein era. I do screen for D dimer. In the primary care setting, just because we know this is a risk factor, right and at least in the emergency room setting. And for patients that come to me I look at this and this is something I monitor over time. And ideally I’d like to see this lower and for patients that have a elevated D dimer. I put them on natto kinase a fibrinolytic. Hopefully to add some extra cardiovascular protection. This patient also had a known coronary artery calcium score, which showed some plaquing or some calcium, old plaque and calcium formations.
24:17
We didn’t get a full lipid panel because something so error with the lab but that’s all the labs here. Let’s talk about some anecdotes from the prostate community trial on Viber symptoms. These are much more impressive than my case because these patients are very more advanced in their cancers and so forth. So again, we in this trial you will always see kind of the similar scenario where maybe they had prostate issues in the past they would get the the vaccines, the boosters and then we would see a progression of the disease. So this patient his biggest problem was the pain was tremendous pain 10 out of 10. So he was in a bad state. So we got him into the trial. We got him on ivermectin, we got him on lactoferrin. And we started seeing some improvements. about September September 18. This cancer patient his appetite was improving, his pain was decreasing. We were doing pretty high doses 60 milligrams ivermectin and 1500 milligrams lactoferrin. The patient then was able to stand up walk on his own and his nightly urinary frequency decreased. So that was very positive to hear. Here’s another one. This other patients based in the Philippines using Dr. Linda retos. ivermectin is nightly urination is decreased to one times per night. So he was very happy about that. You know, he used to be urinating pretty consistently. See as another one is patient again, got a couple of vaccines prostate cancer confirmed to be a biopsy some lesions in the ribs showing some metastasis and we got them on the trial. She still got the third vaccine the booster PSA 22 You started on the ivermectin let’s see. You know II described experiencing his first erection after almost 12 years of erectile dysfunction, not just starting in the trial here. So he was very happy about this understandably is one more. This patient got a couple of vaccines a booster prostate was pretty large. So we can see kind of the progression here with the boosters PSA goes up to about 61 and then 89 nanograms per milliliter. So PSA tripled within three months after the third COVID shot we started him on ivermectin. He started waking up in the middle of night to urinate so he’s happy I remember his working prostate reduced from 42 grams to 35 grams in one month. And then is a radically reduced from 89 to 10 in one month. So this is substantially lower. So the patient was very happy about this as well a kind of the urologists kind of perplexed by this is another patient again got a couple of boosters, ovarian cancer biopsy confirmation. We then started the patient and the trial patient was on a lot of other drugs, some of this so this is sometimes a complement to conventional chemotherapy treatment. They think that chemotherapy appears to be working but that the influence of lactoferrin has to be highlighted. The overall bloodwork is remarkable that in that the values are almost normal, and even the hemoglobin has slightly improved. This is countered to what we typically see in chemotherapy patients you probably will know they’ll get anemia the lactoferrin through its mechanism with controlling iron metabolism may help with preserving some of this, this side effect of the chemotherapy so conclusions lactoferrin This is a bit of an innate intelligence to control pathogenic bacteria both in mammalian milk and in the human body and in vivo. It has anti cancer effects and regulates the immune system. But lactoferrin is a delicate enzyme in its degraded in the pasteurization process of milk. Now we can supplement it in, in capsulation forms as well. ivermectin as anti cancer properties along with antiviral properties, which may be why we’re seeing so effective in specifically these cancers that seem to be accelerated through some COVID vaccinations. The most important thing about this lecture that we’re discussing tonight is that the prostate committee trail is open to any clinician to enroll their patient or just kind of watch these things. We need help we need to monitor the data. You know, this is an example of how to run a trial without big pharmaceutical funding without corporate sponsorship by and using affordable medications and natural supplements. Right. lactoferrin is naturally founded in breast milk of all mammals to treat very difficult diseases. And I’ll open up the floor I’m sure there are some comments we had and
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thank you for listening.
Bill Clearfield 29:22
First things stuff on if you go back to slide 39, I think it is or 38 the case history the one yes. Can you open that up again?
29:33
Here is the last one.
Bill Clearfield 29:35
Yeah, it says ovarian cancer biopsy is what what’s this? What’s the story with this? Looks like a female person?
29:47
Yes. So the interesting thing is started, just prostates. But we were seeing a lot of cancers out in the world so we opened it up beyond just prostate to enroll patients with aggressive cancers.
30:02
Right, because we’ve seen so many things. And so believing, believing that everyone here believing in this week, like
Bill Clearfield 30:14
I don’t know if that was a question or not.
30:17
Yeah, couldn’t hear me. Nice week. Go ahead.
30:23
Good evening. Good evening, everybody in the US. Good morning people in Asia. It’s 221 for me here in the morning. So I can speak to you very, very quickly. The idea behind the community was because I we’ve done some research. We’re doing some research as Stefan has just been explaining, and we ended up starting starting to come up with the idea first of working on prostates. Then since we were added already we said may not bring in people with cancers. So in this case, this lady the doctor, Dr. Bill, asked about. This lady is 4043 years old, she was vaccinated and she picked up a pretty bad diamond cancer. And three months after the last box. She went and found out that she had invested so because of her situation because of her condition. She was thinking we looked at the chemotherapy, well she was taking and we found out that she was having a civil war. So we found it inconvenient to come in with the ivermectin. So in her case, we only opted to use lactoferrin Stephanus is suspended and what’s been happening is the lady the chemotherapy is now on our third cycle. And the cancer markers for the cancer markers has come down quite a bit. But surprisingly, nothing’s happened practically to her to her level. Yet. Yeah. Red blood cells come down but not too much. They’re harmless. hemagglutinin has been pretty, pretty stable. She’s weaker, but she’s up there. And Stefan was explaining earlier about the case. This is our most difficult this is our most difficult case. And he started out with a very high PSA. And what happened to him and when when he went over to the doctor, we had the death of the cancer and spread it spread to his bones. And, and what what makes things worse when one side after another after another after another time, they started thinking about a year had passed. And he was really making sick so they gave him say digger and they gave him they put him on steroids and, and forth. Unfortunately, it’s not worked for him. So this this this fellow has been to the hospital on three occasions this year. And each time he’s gone he’s had to have a transfusion because he’s the traffic and had no red blood cells. So we put him up within that mess explain. We put him on high dose black descending and we slowly penetrated upwards we ever met and we don’t Stefan was saying earlier we don’t just coming in during class that we might be away. We let people feel we let people feel because our experience our experience with using ivermectin over 1000s and 1000s of patients is that we discovered that not everybody will take in the same amount of I would make it and we found out that the sicker person was the greater the amount of vitamins needed. And we also saw the people the people who are sick with something also required high higher low. So this is basically what we do. We don’t we don’t that we don’t just come in and help people they can either make or break up with our thinking is this. If you’ve got a big dancer, then the dancers all over the body. And if it’s all over the body, your body needs more ivermectin. That’s that’s the that’s the logic. And so far, we’re getting fantastic results. I want to I want to add another case, Stefan when we get to that point. There’s one one case for example, which demonstrates how this thing works. Well we have a patient who’s in 20 effects example has had a very, a very large prostate. He’s had a very big prostate since 2000. And but he you know, went unnoticed the usual problems associated with that process and he was him getting up in the middle of the night. And this year, the he finally went to the hospital because he collapsed. When he got to the hospital
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they found out that
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his blood work as long as red blood cells are on the floor. He’s hemoglobin is on the floor is needed immediately transfusion. So the doctors went and gave him a transfusion and they figured it wasn’t illegal. Another one that went on with this was happening, they realized that he was really sick. And they found out that his reaction was seven times what is considered normal. So the doctors looked at him and he started swelling up and his kidneys were failing. So they wanted him to go through the analysis. Now this guy is he’s not indigent, but he is close to it so he couldn’t afford to belong. So he decided to go home. And he went home when he was when he was at the hospital and the wife called me asking for help. She found out about the community and she asked me if I could help and they said they can help you in the hospital when you leave, if you leave didn’t so unfortunately, this this patient, the wife, well, they’re not they’re not to give them in explaining what we had. So I had to, I had to over the several days I had to keep asking them questions compliancy if I could lose everything at the end but anyway, I was able to get some PSA results I was able to see the size of the process etc. So I like to make weeklies together history in combat and said we’ve got to give you like the fairy and of course no couldn’t walk in he was also an independent was he was just been on resist capable who has listened to him capable of urinating marginally that was just urinating. 700 Then give you an idea. That’s approximately a pint of beer in a day. So I said this guy is really sick. So I asked him to go on a special diet and Colin’s to take no salt, no oil, no fat, and I put him on that have i that i have so big. Yeah. And and I told him you have to work because the only way out of this is to work. So he went out and he started walking you know little by little after just two weeks. The man today is really interesting, staggered give him anything about almost almost too late as we’re talking, you know, practically happened I remember. So, we we did this we did his blood work and all of his blood work improved. He was still known haemoglobin was still on red blood cells, but he’s much much better. I asked him about a week ago I asked him how he felt and he said and he said he said and he said how do you feel I mean really find it I’m what I’m capable of working to our energy level has really improved is looking at so yesterday I repeated is blood work. It’s still low, but we’re working on it. So we still have to continue with. We’ll be left defending labor and everything but this guy’s a new man because he’s now getting anything close to what is normal. But he’s still saying we don’t know if the if the cancer has gone to his kidneys. We figured we’d like have a weapon but the problem is has been to the kidneys has been deprived because of the fat price that he’s probably had. You know, rather infections have been mostly it’s not known. It’s not known that he’s been weakening his kidneys infection priority that we have in our hands but you know, he’s he’s a new man. He’s a new man because the guy was practically them. So, you know, and so what we’re doing in the community, what we do in the communities, we try and get everybody in the community to help everybody. So because many of the people with us are not able to buy medicine. So you know we try and pitch in and try to help everybody especially in this case, now in the Philippines, we were able to we were the people who were there benefited because one of the doctors who started the IRA making giant saving people’s lives with ivermectin is Dr. Lindsay is for me is a hero in my book and he decided to, you know, to provide all of the ivermectin for all the participants in the Philippines and the volunteer team we organized over there is you know, takes care of sending ivermectin to everyone who needs it. So that’s what we have. That’s what we have in the Philippines. In the US. The problem is, ivermectin wine available is very expensive. So using ever making the three people it’s impossible so we were able to be the efforts of Stefan and being able to talk to me the pharmacy that this has provided him with the internet and their their kindness we’ve been able to work out a deal where everybody in the United States today can get cheap. bonafide. This is a this is a most important contribution because now we’ve set it up in a way where anybody who’s sick can now go to a doctor and the doctor can prescribe ivermectin in the ivermectin will be sent to whomever it is that needs it. And the good thing about the way we have the habit is the doctors with this type when that have been given accounting to anybody because it will be just him or her, the pharmacy, the patient. So we have we have that that sacredness between all three. And this allows us what we’re doing allows us for, for doctors to practice medicine, like they used to when we were children. When we were kids. The doctors would come home to see us knew our history because they had seen us since we were born. So they knew each and every one of us they knew our cases they had their parents and they were the best clinical. Look at us. We will study as what’s how it is. And this is what we’re trying to do. We’re trying to we’re trying to bring back medicine. We’re trying to allow doctors to we want them to treat us not the symptoms. We want them to find what he sees as an ivermectin lack of anger giving us the opportunity to treat people with everyday laughter by the way, is man West.
42:36
Yeah, lady. Have you ever seen Have you ever seen any sick kid breasting Have you ever seen, you know a middle calf? That sick when it’s having Mama’s milk?
42:48
That’s been a huge part of my practice is educating my patients on the benefits of raw milk? And it’s really phenomenal. It’s it’s incredible. And it’s lactoferrin. Cool, and I’m gonna answer a couple of questions in the chat here. Let’s see. There was a question whether lactoferrin is degraded by the stomach acidity. It’s a good question. I would think not because of, you know, our evolutionary perspective, right? We would not be alive without lactoferrin in my opinion. I think it is degraded through the pasteurization process, which degrades all enzymes. Right, and converts lactose to lectures. Yeah, so there’s a question about California. urologists? Yeah, I don’t know any. However, we’re working with AIMEX pharmacy to try to get clinicians who would join this protocol all over the US so that we can prescribe it to patients in the US international patients. That’s a different story. Mr. Gonzales, and I think Fernando Boyles lead the Philippines arm of this struggle.
44:08
The just to just to add on to the question earlier, we have, we have other doctors, we have another doctor who’s in the community. She’s in California, and she was in she’s prescribing which is prescribing ivermectin to her patients, so she’s able to get so in Europe and Spain, for example. You can’t, doctors cannot prescribe. They cannot prescribe medicine. They cannot prescribe something off label they can prescribe off label medicine. However, there is an exception. In spam. They have this thing called protect from history, which is which is the rape from doctor to prescribe anything he wants so he can make he can make an exception. So, under that exception, a Spanish doctor can telepharmacy to compound for him a special a particular a particular kind of medicine, and he can give that to anybody, right so there are exceptions to the rules. And from what exactly SEC in the US works pretty much the same way so a doctor who wants to go up to a pharmacy because he wants a special prescription filled out, he can do so. So in that would make it that would make it illegal for any doctor in the US who prescribe a remapping for use on cancer.
45:42
That’s fantastic offers
45:43
can the doctors in the US can demonstrate That’s correct.
45:47
Yeah, so this is a question. Many people are sensitive to milk proteins, casein whey excetera. I would say yes, but have they fried wrong? Right. The way raw milk is delivered with the digestive enzymes included in it, not pasteurized. I’ve seen a clinical practice that these so called lactose intolerant patients. I believe there’s a whole misdiagnosis out there of lactose tolerance when the more accurate description should be like shoeless intolerance, and maybe destroyed milk.
46:20
Well, I’m talking about IgG humoral testing and and seeing reaction to the
46:31
important month, the Skypes PSA went from 90 to 11 rather than one month. Wow. 60 milligrams of ivermectin per day in one month. Wow.
46:45
Yes, indeed. I should see if I can pull it up again.
46:52
That comment somebody just talking about this fellow, is this PSA went from 89 point 11. It went down to 10 point 94. But here’s the kicker. Listen to this. When we start when he started out in 2018. His PSA was at 25. So his PSA and climbed steadily from 25 to get the shots, went up to 40 went up to 60 and then it went down to a lead went up to 18. And so when he saw his Europeans, urologist, the ecologist is pulling his hair and yet nobody can figure out what happened to him from at 911. It’s 10 point 94 In one month, if that was a combination of lactoferrin and ivermectin both, so it wasn’t just like one method. So and by the way, this fellow is 70 years old. He said, He’s a professional diver. And he’s asked my permission if you can go back to diving professionally, because he still makes a living. And he says, Look, you’re going to be the first man on earth, who’s going to submerge himself. So go easy watching because we don’t know what’s going to happen. Do you know 150 feet. So please, but this is this application for listening. These are the cases we’ll listen to. The beauty of the whole thing is that we’re not seeing this kind of response with one person we’re seeing results with different cases of cancer. You know, different ages, men and women all over the place. So what we’re seeing, the only way I can describe it is miraculous. is no longer is this no longer is medicine. This is something else. It’s something else. I’m sorry, just very quickly before I forget. There are people here who are asking how you can, how you can join the community. It’s really easy. What we need to do is there’s a there’s a there’s an application, there’s an app called Viber, WhatsApp, you download it, and you soon as you download it, you let us know the name of it the name of the community. It’s called the prostate community trial. Just look for us we can come we can come in. What we will do later. On is we will try environment the deal so that he can he can put the link on his webpage and people can come and join us. We’ll be delighted to have you with us. The idea here is you write us write us, you know basic basic line of what your what your problem is. And then one of our volunteers will give you a call, get in touch with you and we will help you fill up your form. And once we have that, we will have one of the doctors whomever it is, we might be able to help you or you can already figure it out to contact your own doctor. And you can ask him if he wants to to help you with the ivermectin and then we can do things if the doctor tells you fine. Then you can order the ivermectin and get it delivered to anyone in the US to a mix pharmacies in Iran and we will just watch you and monitor you and see what’s happening. And every time we have a new case, what we do is we we posted on the we posted on the on our on our message board and we have we have a link to have a permanent link and people going there tap on it and look at the different cases that are coming up. So this is really what we’re doing is we’re we’re we’re claiming to find the cure for cancer. We’re going to find it and it’s going to be permanent. We’re gonna find it cheap, everyday available medicine, by the way, like the famous Stephen has explained it’s been around a long time. Now it’s me.
50:45
And as an acting is another another gift from God. It came from the earth. It was discovered in Belfast. One simple microorganism. Dr. Bora was seeking the quad quest so suddenly, we saw some dead ones and literally says what is this? So we went in there took a sample of that radical Islam and that became ivermectin, by the way, is one of the safest medicines on Earth. Since the early 80s. More than 4 billion doses have been given. ivermectin alone has saved the lives of millions upon millions of people. It has cured liver blindness in India and Africa. So ivermectin isn’t forced medicine. Know what they suggest. Don’t use don’t use ivermectin for that the bed preparations because we now have quantified available. ivermectin for all us participants, all we need when it’s cheap. Okay, we’re talking about for the $4 per 100 milligram. So if you’re sick with cancer, you can get away with the thickness of proximately $101. Approximately, it’s not even extensive. And like I said, since we’re seeing the results, so quickly. What did we get to lose? Yeah,
52:16
yeah, we don’t have any reason to use horse ivermectin, we have options. Okay. So, and then. Yeah, go ahead. Good.
52:26
Question. Are you taking patients who have I have a patient who had prostate cancer with bone Mets? And he’s currently miraculously in remission, but he’s been wanting me to, you know, other than what we’re already doing, to recommend something preventative and how do you feel about somebody like him being Is he a candidate to be enrolled in your research? And to be on ivermectin as a prophylactic, you know, indefinitely because he was. He’s a young man. He was only 55. And, you know, had a very serious situation when his prostate cancer went to the pelvis.
53:13
Definitely. Definitely. That gives this this gentleman is perfectly, you know, we’d like to bring him in. In fact, we’d love to bring him in because you know, he would be part of the test. To see if we can keep the cancer from coming back. So in this particular case, I would I would definitely bring him in. I would just, you know, give him give him a dose of ivermectin give him a dose of lactoferrin and just watch his you know, his blood work. But logically, but he would be perfect for us, which is the kind of nice he’s a kind of patient that the board and Merton wanted. Join us
53:51
for do you send the link to how we enroll patients? Yes,
53:55
I will pass this on to Dr. Pearson. Great. Yeah. Do you have to download Viber on your phone? Why didn’t you can come and join us. We’ll, we’ll let the people know when
54:08
and why it’s I put the slides in the group chat. So my slides are up there publicly available and the links there.
Bill Clearfield 54:14
Okay, we’ll have it we’ll have it on our website also. Yes.
54:22
Any fear that, you know, killer Big Pharma is gonna shut you down?
54:30
That’s for sure. You see, see what we’re doing? We’re going against the grain we’re going into the business. Big Pharma is not interested in any of this. They don’t want us to bring this up. They don’t want to they want they want because if we’re successful, we’re talking about you know, medicine that doesn’t cost anything practical, and it’s going to wreck their business. They’re not going to sell chemotherapy, they’re not going to sell radiotherapy, they’re not going to sell immunotherapy, they’re not going to send anything. Okay, so So this is what we’re up. This is what we’re trying to do. So we need to create. We need to create more and more cases like this. We have to get them around and we need to do this not just in the US, not just in the Philippines. We’re working on working in Spain, and we’re working. We’re working to do this in India, and we’re working to do this in every single country on Earth. We’re talking about saving the lives of people we’re talking about. We’re talking about improving the quality of life of people who are sick with cheap, everyday medicine. Let me tell you another case that Stephen has not been able to talk about this fellow. It’s very similar to your case. He’s got prostate cancer, and it’s metastasized. He’s got it in his bones in his spinal column has been affected. So he was operated on this year, because he’s paralyzed. And after the operation, he’s been undergoing physical rehab to see if we can get some get his legs to work again. But nothing’s nothing’s really happened. So we started him off just two and a half weeks ago on ivermectin and lactoferrin. And here’s where the minute will start. The next day, just the next day after taking the iConnect and the man’s appetite improves. Okay. Three days later, the son tells me that he’s no longer taking Tramadol because he’s got no pain. On the court day. Does father tells his son that leaves feel he’s feeling electricity from his waist down to his legs. On the sixth day is beginning to move is right for the next day, seven days, something like this. He starts to move the left foot. He Sam took him about the day after and he was complaining about the heat of the water that he was using to bathe him. So at the rate we’re going, This man might just stand up. We don’t know. But those are the results we’re seeing. So what I’m what you’re seeing is who knows what it is it to me it’s just miraculous. There’s no other way to explain it. You know, because it’s worth talking of this kind of this kind of replies this kind of response in such a short amount of time. It’s unheard of. Cool. Thank you.
Bill Clearfield 57:32
Dr. Gonzales is there is there a protocol for the ivermectin dose because you started sometimes 15 milligrams sometimes.
57:42
And it’s been to begin with I’m not a doctor, I’m an engineer. Let me explain what we do depending on the severity of the of the case. Okay, we have an idea of the amount of ivermectin, the person when we started when we started our research. In the beginning of last year, we started treating people with COVID We didn’t know how much ivermectin and what we did was we started recruiting doctors to come on board. And one of the first studies that we read about was a study prepared in the Dominican Republic. This is done by a group of group rescue. And they didn’t know how much ivermectin to give to their patients. But then, they started giving the ivermectin and they found we found that giving our private method they were able to cure a lot more people and people were you know, we’re getting better and much, much sooner and people some people died because they they did the study in the beginning of July of 2020. And that study went on till the end of August. So that was one study that gave us a hint of you know, not knowing not knowing how much to give. But then we came across another study in India. This is a prophylactic study. This is made by Ames whenever zwaar Ames is like the biggest, the biggest private. I’m sorry, the biggest government hospital chain. It’s a it’s an adult University chain in India. They have 50 Mega hospitals, making universities and in one of them, they best ever make them on their frontline is the doctors and the nurses and the people in people posted. And this to me was the the cleanser. This is this is where we learned that what they did over there was they didn’t know if I heard make work. But they wanted to test tested on the darkness to see if they would get COVID are not so they had two groups. One group was not given ivermectin and the other group was given two doses of vitamins. And after a month they compared both groups. They discovered that there was a big difference of the people taking ivermectin the people not taking and but what so they came up with a conclusion saying that ivermectin work, but what they didn’t see was the theory also given a smaller group of people smaller group of frontliners. They also gave them aside and what was surprising to me was that that group that had a smaller dose of fiber making that sick in the same in the same proportion as the other as the other as the other as the people who didn’t take either and that gave us a hint that they must have low viral load, meaning the sicker somebody is, the more ivermectin people need. And so this is what we’re applying. So, what we do is we apply a small starting dose, you know, anywhere between zero point 25 to 0.4. And we see how the person reacts. Okay, we don’t immediately hit them with a big big blow. Now, and what we do is we progressively upward we keep giving the person more ivermectin and we watch, you know, we watch how the person reacts. We’re locally look for improvement. We look for the improved energy levels, we look for improved strength. We look for bigger appetites. We’re looking for no pain. One of the things that we’re seeing is immediately no pain or less pain. So that’s the approach we’re doing. Now. Let me tell you a story of one case which we will find remarkable. We recently found a doctor, a cardiologist. She had stage four cancer in the gallbladder.
1:02:03
She had designed radiotherapy and chemotherapy and none of that work. So she decided she was going to try ivermectin she just did. And she didn’t she didn’t know about lactoferrin. And, and in what she did was she took 120 milligrams of ivermectin, a day, and she took it for four months. Because she’s small. She’s just 50 kilos, that’s that comes out 2.4 milligrams per kilo of body per day. That’s a huge amount. She took that requirements and she had no overdosing at all. She didn’t show any symptoms of overdosing. She even used those 120 milligrams per day in 90 milligrams a day. And she did that for the next five minutes. And by the end by the end of the eight month for cancer markers were already down to alarm. She went on she carried on with the with the with the last four months of ivermectin and she’s closing down to 60 milligrams. So that would be that would be approximately that would be 1.2 milligrams per kilo per day. And she took that for the next one was an after 12 months. The tumor that she had in her gallbladder which is the size of her fist. This appeared this appeared so that’s this is the kind of medicine we’re talking about. She’s still on she’s still taking the I remember. So she must be on a 16 or 17 month since you started. So she’s now taking over makeup prevention to for the cancer to occur. So that’s one confirmed case. This is one case she’s you know, she’s I’ve invited her to come and join us but she says she’s really busy. This lady this lady, I’m sure, okay, has gotten pressure from her bosses. She works for a public hospital. And, you know, they’ve told her to shut up. So this is what we’re up against. This is why we know that what we’re doing is going to be crushed. It’s going to be quiet, it’s going to be censored and we’re going to be attacked. So we’re going to do what we’re doing is what we’re asking you to do is we’re telling you come forward and tell the world the truth. We have to bring on a revolution and we’re talking about treating people making them you know, making them well give them a better quality of life and reading us of slavery. We are now the slaves of Big Pharma and they’re dictating what it is we need.
1:04:51
That’s why this community trail is important. I’d like to see further ones like these developing spawning from the community and the grassroots mechanism was a question what the liver enzymes were a problem with ivermectin. You can see here that before and after the 14 day trial, his liver enzymes did not change, really at all. So that’s not really something that I’ve seen in clinical practice either, you know, two years of prescribing ivermectin for COVID. doesn’t really help. I’d like
1:05:19
to I’d like to add something to what Stephen just said. This is really important. We know we know that ivermectin is metabolized in the liver. Because it’s metabolized in the liver it is logical to conclude that the liver has to work to metabolize the IBMa like like, like Stephen has just said the people are monitoring. Okay, good taking by the making this kind of dose. So I’m looking at the liver enzymes and they’re normal. They’re not going up. But not only that, we’d been told, you know, ivermectin is bad for deliver bad for deliver and of course, people don’t bother to think. But here’s the thing about one case, of course I don’t have the data for this. This is just hearsay. There’s a case in the US who have a man who has divorces and he’s got liver cancer. He’s been taking ivermectin, his liver enzymes have actually improved. Like I said, this is just hearsay because I haven’t seen his blood work. have asked to see the blood work so we can get the information is so don’t think that because I don’t know think that because ivermectin is metabolized in the liver means it’s bad for the liver. If it’s killing cancer, maybe it’s good for the liver too. But of course, like I said, in the in the the patients that we’re monitoring those ivermectin nobody has a normal as a normal liver inside of Greece,
1:07:00
is question about NAC we don’t use NEC or glutathione in cancer because there’s some theory that it can actually protect the cancer so we don’t use that and yeah, Gerald brand lack of fairness. Fantastic. I use raw milk complimentary to the protocol. I think I’m the only one who’s doing that. Just because I like raw milk. Conversion with milk allergy take lactoferrin so that means depends what you mean by milk allergy are they you know, the lactose intolerance or is it real allergy like anaphylaxis? No, I don’t do a lot of comparing matters. It’s an enzyme.
Bill Clearfield 1:07:40
There was a question earlier about IRB. Have you have you looked at going that that route at all?
1:07:47
No.
Bill Clearfield 1:07:51
Those Those not us that’s institutional review board that’s usually a hospital or medical institution that will set up an A review of experimental treatments.
1:08:07
But there’s ways to actually set up a private IRB and that may be something that you want to consider which then will allow you to publish once you got rock solid data. And then everyone hides from assassination. Yeah. Well,
Bill Clearfield 1:08:31
when we’re done, we’ll tell you about one one right out in the open so and assassination. So now what about the lactoferrin dose and I’ve seen that as low as 250. And as high as 750. Twice a day.
1:08:48
We’re giving we’re giving some of our patients in the south of lactoferrin. Those people, those people, those people are really compromised. The people who are really compromised the people who have, you know, really poor red blood cells, etc. We think we think also, what, what you’re seeing is that when you have a cancer, the cancer is bad. The cancer, we consume so much that the body’s capacity to manufacture red blood cells is overturned. The body can no longer manufacture red blood cells. And so what happens is you can have to get yourself a transfusion. So, so the challenge the challenge many times is how to get the body to regain the capacity to manufacture red blood cells. And this is where we think the both the ivermectin and the clapper thing. Why the ivermectin affects affects the cancer and let’s let’s imagine that the ivermectin is a left hook. What it does is it attacks against it and it tries to weaken. The lactoferrin on the other hand, among its properties is what we’re seeing now is that it sequesters the eye one from the pathogens. So if, if I’m a cancer cell and I come into a barn, there’s lack of fat in there, the letter sends me to attack me by taking my iron when it does that, okay, when lactoferrin takes away from me, I become weak and I die. So, if the if the if the ivermectin is a left hook, the lack of seven is a right street. So we’ve got two powerful weapons in the arsenal to beat the cancer. And if we are able to arrest the cancer enough, the body may just be able to manufacture NEW Red Blood Cells increase the Hamiltonian, and this is what we’re seeing. This is what you saw with with Donnie, Donnie person. This is the man who couldn’t, you know, couldn’t, couldn’t be. We also know that for example, what’s another lactoferrin helps rebuild sick demons. That’s another thing that people don’t know about. And we found out there’s research there that says lactoferrin you know, helps helps with getting so we don’t know exactly what’s happening with the zone except that we know that he’s now capable of working two hours a day, and just three weeks ago, you know, the poor guy couldn’t even come in and take a big step. So that’s what we’re talking about. So we’re just we’re just learning and learning and learning new things. So we invite people to come on board because you know, we’re all learning from this. And we’re seeing this happen with different kinds of cancer. We’ve got people who get we’ve got a lady, for example, the breast cancer. She had, she had a big, big lump on one breast. She didn’t pay attention to it. She went to the Chinese government for herbal medicine. The lump got smaller, and she just updated with it, getting bothered with it. And then she recently had another lap on the opposite list on the other list. And she told me about it. So I said, Let’s try out with a bit of Chico. But this time, the new lamp disappeared. But not only that, the new moon disappeared. Even the lamp that she had from three years before the big major lamp, that one disappeared as well. So that was purely making because she did not mean any any lack of things. So these are these are the kinds of cases so it’s just I can’t I can’t think of any other
1:12:51
cool any other questions or close
1:12:54
up? But of course we have to we have to confirm this. We have to see this
1:13:02
price. The price we got with Amex pharmacy was pretty darn good. You get like 100 milligrams for four bucks. Was that right?
Bill Clearfield 1:13:11
Like that? It was $3 $3 for a loss of whatever the dose was. That’s that’s, you know, if it was 15 milligrams, it was $3 Those if it was 30 milligrams I guess I’ve never gone up that high but $3 $3 for a loss. And it’s one loss injured day. That’s how that’s how they make it. And the lactoferrin now we’re not CME, so we can mention brand names. Somebody in the chat mentioned Jarrow freeze dried. Is that was that your preferred? That’s the one.
1:13:50
That’s what we’re using. The most of the stuff we’re using is that one. There’s other brands but we’re most of the cases we’re using. Use that brand.
1:13:59
Yeah. Okay. Cool. Okay.
Bill Clearfield 1:14:04
Okay. Anybody else? Was there any other anything else in the chat?
1:14:12
Yeah, I have a question. Dr. Clearfield if, you know I liked the idea of very much of enrolling my patients in this kind of research. But I have to be honest, I don’t want to be identified in that research because I do believe that integrative physicians are being targeted by big pharma. And they’re either going to, you know, screw your practice up, or, you know, even
1:14:42
not already we know what to do with our cases. We don’t need to put names we can put just their initials and the attending doctor, you know, that’s your nametag wouldn’t appear. So don’t worry about that.
1:14:52
You said the attending doctor that would be me.
1:14:55
Yeah. But that’s what I said. So if you’re the one who’s monitoring the person we can have what we can do, what we can do so that you’re not bug is you can do the prescribing, okay, and we can do the monitoring. Okay, okay. This way, you’re not involved at all. Okay. And the you make the you make up the prescription for the patient. That prescription goes to the pharmacy, that’s a secret between all three, the patient, you and the pharmacy, and nobody. So we’ll do it that way. So don’t worry about your name’s not going to be or any anywhere. They’re not going to they’re not going to have asked you because they don’t even know who you are. What the
1:15:37
pharmacy has visits by whatever regulatory agency is there. Right. Right, and to look at the prescribing of ivermectin at that pharmacy, because that’s what they’ve done in the US. They’ve nailed pharmacists for dispensing farm ivermectin for cases that aren’t associated with a documented parasite
1:16:08
I can answer that. Question. Let me see if we have a representative from the from the pharmacy with us.
Bill Clearfield 1:16:18
Yeah, it’s too bad Mike, like beamers not here, so he wouldn’t know. Alright, I’ll bring it up to him. And
1:16:25
all I know in California, they’re hitting the pharmacists. So you know, Mike has been able to pull it off. I mean, seeds is able to have his pharmacy in Ohio dispense peptides as someone did peptides in California. The Board of Pharmacy would come down on him like a like a you know, wedge hammer.
Bill Clearfield 1:16:47
Right. So, yeah, I know. So question. So, something somebody wrote here in Milton Merrill, is that MD MDS are hesitant or is that Maryland?
1:17:00
If he’s saying that California, MDS are a bit hesitant
Bill Clearfield 1:17:06
Well, good with good reason. They just passed a law that you know, your license for quote unquote, disinformation. Yeah, and no one and there’s no no appeal and there’s no and who decides what this information is? Yeah. Who knows?
1:17:21
Oh, gates.
1:17:25
Dr. Hartman, have you dealt with private membership associations?
1:17:30
PMAs.
1:17:32
No, what does that What are you talking about? A private membership association, in essence, is what some people are using to go around big pharma go around big agriculture. So for instance, a farmer is getting attacked by the Agricultural Department. They start a private membership association, and they give out one pig a year for a fee. So they avoid the laws, but they’re using the laws in their favor. It’s something to look into.
1:18:05
Oh, cool.
1:18:08
I get my milk from a co op. It’s all underground. It’s kind of like that crap.
Bill Clearfield 1:18:15
All right, just so Stefan just someone asked about methylene blue is just so Dr. Colossus that left
1:18:21
that. I knew he had something to say about that. No, we haven’t used methylene blue yet.
Bill Clearfield 1:18:26
But you know, it would be coming right.
1:18:28
I knew it was coming. I was hoping he would be here for that
Bill Clearfield 1:18:32
question for me. And I wrote back the laws in Nevada so far. So good, as far as I know, we’ve not had any any issues with it. We had we had we had a battle with Hang on.
1:18:43
Hang on bill. I just talked to Maria Keller a Las Vegas I’m looking at she’s an M. MD. She used she dispensed ivermectin for COVID. And she’s got now a hearing.
1:19:02
Whoa. Las Vegas and I
1:19:06
just saw the SS
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rectum for COVID and now she’s got a hearing. Yes.
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Offer it was
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Dr. Harmon Have you dealt with a chlorine dioxide solution yet or looked into it?
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And now I know that’ll get you in trouble with the state do.
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Do Oh, that’s my specialty. You do that. That’s awesome. I’m looking into it and studying it as much as possible. There’s literally 10s of 1000s if not hundreds of 1000s of positive testimonials in South America starting to use it in massive doses. And it also gets rid of malaria in 24 hours. Whoa. Yeah, it’s pretty powerful. And that was documented by Red Cross. When Red Cross came back into America, Big Pharma took them down even though it was massively photographed and video graphed. So
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take it with nebulization or a capsular. How do you do it? No.
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You mix the two different solutions out. Let me see if I can get a the you
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should do a presentation on it.
1:20:17
Exactly. Bill talking.
Bill Clearfield 1:20:20
Okay. We’ll put them in. A
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Hey, that’s how you get roped into this.
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The I just want to make a comment about the PMA private medical association or or private business associations have been able to circumvent a lot of unfair laws. You know, whether you agree with prostitution or not the chicken ranch hat is a private business association. And they it’s how legal prostitution happens in Las Vegas. In Utah. You can’t drink alcohol but these bars open up and they make you become a member of their private business association. And then you can drink alcohol within their the restaurant legally. And it’s also been done for for integrative medicine or native medicine. And I think that it’s something I’m not a part of one yet. I’ve been you know, exploring it. But I do think it would give us some protection in terms of keeping, you know, some anonymity going for ourselves and our patients. And I don’t know who the expert is on PMA. You know that there are some Native American organizations that are offering those services. But it’s it’s a little bit expensive and they want you to pay $5 or $10 for each patient visit and it was it felt a little bit off. But anyway, I know that it’s worth and I just wanted to say that.
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I think I talked to a lady last night who is organizing that with Dr. Ryan Cole and a couple others so I could possibly get her on as a speaker if you’d be interested. Yeah,
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I think that would be great because a lot of us are doing our thing. It will be integrative medicine, but we’re living with some tension that you know, like this nice doctor in Las Vegas. We’re going to be brought up against our board. And in the end, we’re going to win but it’s going to cost us a lot of time and money. So if there was a way to insulate ourselves and keep practicing good medicine I think a lot of us would be attracted to that.
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We’ll get that organized so that we can learn about that more.
1:22:36
Great. And this was awesome. I really thank you for to you, Stefan and Dr. Clearfield and the other engineer. This is awesome stuff.
Bill Clearfield 1:22:47
And don’t think we’re not being watched because I think I’m being stalked online by somebody at the AOA and so if so great lecture there was a question about the stinky pervert
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you have something to say just a quickie?
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Is there any interaction with alcohol and ivermectin patients
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lead with you know, we’re not going to tell everybody but when I when I took ivermectin for myself, I tested it on my on my fat process. I took it for 37 days. I took some alcohol. I took some wine. I’ve tested it myself. Nothing happened. Of course I didn’t take an industrial amount of alcohol. In my case, for example, I took I took ivermectin for 30 pips 37 days, I would normally get up between three and three and 14 tonight. And I started thinking ivermectin on the eighth day. I would get up about twice a night and on day 18 I start gearing up completely. And I went on. I stayed. I stayed bed in every every from from day 18 to date 37 I didn’t wake up at all. Not one single night when I was taking the overnight so that’s what prompted me to start this thing. I said this is this thing works. But I had to make sure that other people could do the same. I wanted to replicate the results. And this is how I put together the process community. And from that that’s how we brought in the cancer patients because what’s really important here is that process was really hard to deal with. Can we cure cancer? And I’m convinced I’m convinced that what we’re doing is definitely divine intervention, because we’re seeing too quickly. You know, we’re seeing we’re being told what to do. I think I’m just I’m just floored because the results we’re seeing and we’re seeing the same results with everyone. We’re seeing positive as well as
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well. If you’re a clinician in the US you want to get involved in please, more clinicians the more minds thinking about this and the more patients enrolled the better.
Bill Clearfield 1:25:13
One more question on can ivermectin help the stimulator neuritis? I don’t know that.
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I haven’t tried that yet. And really your patient? Let’s find out.
Bill Clearfield 1:25:24
I’m just asking the questions that are in the in the chat here. So taking ivermectin sublingually can bypass liver metabolism. Dr. Landry toes ivermectin is in a capsule preparation so you can open it up but
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that’s not that’s not exactly correct. That’s not a classically yet.
Bill Clearfield 1:25:41
I’m just reading what’s here.
1:25:43
Let me let me just explain the liver, the liver metabolizes it. So what happens is when you when you put it under the thumb, okay, you’re blessed him getting soon. All right. So some of it gets to work before going to deliver, but eventually it’s gonna get metabolized in the liver. So that’s not that’s not completely correct. Because it eventually becomes a double edged sword. You know that it’s, it stays in the fatty tissue of the body. So it stays on the body weight regulator. So it goes it goes to the most of the liver metabolizes.
Bill Clearfield 1:26:24
Okay, okay.
1:26:26
Can I say something? I say something, Bill. Yeah, go ahead, especially since we have a nice crowd here and the subject has been brought up. Dr. Charles Gant MD psychiatrists, PhD smart guy, integrated medicine and psychiatry died this week. He is one of our closest closest allies and brothers and just spent 40 Some years doing fantastic work has written a lot of books on mindfulness. We will share those, but he is now dead. Because he was forced to take a COVID shot recently. And within a few days, half of his heart was gone. He has now died. And he left a legacy with us and writings and books and support, even to this group. And we will hopefully share some of his ideas and he stayed mindful and absolutely serving and clear headed to the day of his death. But he was taken out because he was forced in Washington DC to take the COVID shot or not being able to treat patients. He knew the dangers he took a shot now he’s dead. So just prays for our friend and another one of our brothers because the situation is real terrible that’s my darkness for tonight. But Charles guys
Bill Clearfield 1:27:49
good to see John. You never failed you never failed.
1:27:53
Hey, Charles get who died would be smiling right now. Because he was mindful. He found joy in every situation. But there’s never been a more targeted psychiatrists for doing integrative medicine than Charles Gan. So we are in this fight together. And it’s real. And thank you all for sharing what you’re doing because you’re all brave people. Appreciate it. All right.
1:28:20
I’m signing off for tonight, guys. It’s been fun.
Bill Clearfield 1:28:22
Okay, thank you so much. This was good. We’ll be here next week. Same time, same station 5pm. We have Dr. Daniel Lafferty I think his name’s Daniel. And he’s going to I’m not sure what he’s going to talk about, but it’ll be something good. Okay, I hope you like this a lot. This was really interesting and kind of personal for me also, because I have a prostate issue. Now you’ll know that and Okay, and how do we get rid of the screen here?
1:29:02
Taxpayer data, Dr. Bill? We’ll
Bill Clearfield 1:29:04
find out Yeah, we’re gonna we’re gonna set Yeah, so I will be calling Mike tomorrow. And I may tailor somebody’s talk well, I get the gotta get these email addresses so that I can Yeah, so those of you that that’s who’s ever left. Those of you know that last week I received a letter from the AOA that was a cease and desist letter. They invited me to a subspecialty meeting. I got five invitations. There was a change of date, and then three notifications. And then I got a cease and desist letter because I was at the meeting. You remember when they d platformed. Us? They said we can reapply you know under the subspecialty of integrative medicine we’ve actually, you know, we’re using that term now. We actually have the organization in place and we’re right up to the point where we need to apply to them, and I’m really reluctant to one I seem to be a lightning rod for them and the can we get rid of the screen okay, so I don’t know. Okay, so I seem I seem to be a lightning rod for them. And so I got a cease and desist letter, you know, demanding that i not i not go to any of their meetings that they had invited me to. I had five invitations. Three of them were after they told us not to come to omit in in August, but I should have known not to be there. So I wrote them an apology. The big deal was and I got an answer from them. I’m reminded that you should that mean, I should not attend any future non public meetings related to the AOA we’re making any recordings of such you know, we have the recordings here automatically. So the thing was, I actually turned it on and had to go see a patient so I didn’t even hear what they said. In addition, now listen to this. I understand you are registered to attend the omit this week. If you cannot refrain from engaging in unprofessional or inappropriate conduct during the conference. I urge you not to attend the conference and to notify me that that you will not be there. And they will refund your fee. Thank you for your cooperation. It’s brutal. So I was gonna go there with a couple of bombs, I guess or something I don’t know. So I’m not I wouldn’t go there. You know, it would be just too aggravating for me to go and sit there and listen to all the you know, the hypocrisy so and I just you know, just enough is enough so and I won’t sign on either. Dr. Burgess is going to be our our spy there. So so so that’s that’s our state at the moment. I believe that probably if I if I try to present anything to them and we shut down just because it’s me I seem to be the be the pecs badboy of our group at least to them. So we’ll continue on as as as is. We will keep doing these these programs. Stefan it was this was just, you know, outstanding, and I have to let you know, I think this was our highest attended program in two years. We had 59 tops.
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So I draw a crowd.
Bill Clearfield 1:32:33
Yeah, you do. You do. So it was you know it was really interesting information. And, and again, we’ll put this on the website as soon as it’s ready. We’ll I will have a transcript I think also for it. And Will anybody will put it on there. I put it on there somewhere. The links if you want to join this group, so it’s and everybody is giving me your your email addresses. I thank you very much, and we will get you on our list. And that’s about that. One last thing. We are in preliminary talks with the Nevada osteopathic medical association to join them in South Lake Tahoe in the third week in January. They have a winter conference and we can hook on with them and probably get due to our CME credits through them. So anybody who’s interested in that, let me know we’ll put together a program probably a two day program. And and of course, remember that we are still am a certified but we’re just not AOA. Certified. So anybody have any comments, questions? complaints. Stewart to I have you will add you want and other folks who I think I got everybody who asked to be added on and save the chat right here. I don’t know. If you can. Okay. Okay. Save chat, save chat. Alright, so we change, save the chat. Again, thank you and Dr. Bergeron. Thank you, we’ll put get you on to and anybody else who’s interested. I again, I am at amm G on Friday. It’s their half year thing. And I do my I’m doing my this is nearly everything we learned about testosterone in medical school was wrong. That’s my topic. So hopefully it should be a good one and maybe we’ll bring it here too if we have a night out. Okay, everybody. Thank you so much. Those of you who gave me your email addresses i i hope i have a more and if not, here’s mine.
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actor Bill nine at
Bill Clearfield 1:35:16
Gmail, thank you so much for getting Mr. Gonzalez. He was most interesting. Our aos er D word slash webinars. The video will be up as soon as I have it ready and get it over to our IT person and their aos er d.org/webinars And just about every one we’ve done over the last two years is there is also all our conferences since 2019. The last one is still password protected because we probably have another couple of months to go on that one. And if you want CME credits, then we can we can get that for you for the last conference on the march one. So, and a little hint. There’s a two hour lecture there from Dr. Mercola. Which I’m sure it didn’t help our cause. So, okay, any questions, comments? Otherwise Same time, same station next Tuesday. Thank you everybody. Dr. Burgess. You have anything else?
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Oh, I was good. Thank you.
Bill Clearfield 1:36:26
Okay. Thank you. And we’ll see everybody next week. Those of you that are new please please join us. And, you know, don’t be a stranger. And if anybody has anything they want to present, let me know too because we’re always always looking for new content. Cool. Okay. All right. And John, you’re ready Y’all ready for omit
1:36:51
everything’s cool. Okay, great.
Bill Clearfield 1:36:55
Okay, everybody, the night and we’ll talk to you again next week.
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Thanks very much, everyone.
Bill Clearfield 1:37:04
Thank you so much, Stefan. It was just fabulous. Anytime